The_Angry_Admiral

The desperation in this thread is astounding.

Are you special?

Nobody cares.

Boring is subjective mate. You don't wield any sort of power or prestige to change that.

This. Crap MM has nothing to do with subs.

Just because a lot of you can't handle change doesn't make it broken. Almost none of are actually able to articulate exactly what are the issues with subs exactly. All we get is stat shaming and troll calling. Most of you are cowards who hide behind your keyboards as well as probably the back of the map and you cry when a sub gets you. Git Gud at facing subs or play another game. Way too much knee jerk reactions here.

Because they provide the ability for fans of subs to play one.

Pathetic response really.

I'm glad you found the courage to say that. So we shouldn't see you in this thread again?

Show me where I said I was a big fan?

Then how about finishing the job and go away from here?

You people really don't have the ability to come up with actual arguments but instead we get knuckle dragging and bashing things with clubs.

I'm sure the same would be said if we could see you.

Boring is not game breaking. Didn't I already mention that fun is subjective?

Doesn't say much.

I asked you a question. How about you answer it? Since you are going to create these one on one white room scenarios that pretend you don't have others on your team or that subs don't have specific mechanics.

Why are you trying to create these specific scenarios that aren't relevant? How would you deal with a fast and stealthy DD in that scenario?

Didn't say anywhere there weren't problems with subs. Please find where I said that?

I don't seem to recall needing your permission.

Mmmm no. Do you not understand the concept of difference of opinion? Do you think everyone in the world loves pizza? Fun is subjective my guy.

The problem with a few posters here is subs expose they aren't as good at the game as they think they are. It's calling anything they can't deal with broken. I have had the same experiences as you. Subs in my games have no problem getting spotted and then blown to bits straight away.

It's the same concept. What constitutes as fun is not for you to decide except for you and not for anyone else.

Never said I was in favour of subs. If they were removed tomorrow I couldn't care less but I can spot knee jerk reactions a mile away. This happens with World of Tanks a lot when a new premium comes out. Take the Skoda T-57. It's a heavy with a dual single shot autoloader that can deal over 1k damage in about 2 seconds. The moment this tank dropped everyone was screaming how broken it was and how it was going to ruin the game. Typical reaction after meeting one because they didn't know how to deal with it. Fast forward and now it's just another premium. It's a good tank but it has weak spots, long reload time, and not the best penatration.

If you are going to complain about my post at least try and come up with a comparison that actually makes sense instead of some square peg round hole nonsense you are trying to hammer on here.

1: The same could be said for all the variety of cruisers and super cruisers and battleships and semi battleships we get. The MM isn't the most balanced anyway. You act like it rests on a delicate balance. 2: I mentioned that in my initial post. That's what happens with new things. Takes time to figure them out. 3: Annoyance doesn't equal broken. There are a lot of annoying things with this game. Repeatedly set on fire with no way to stop it gets annoying. 4: There are ways to counter this.