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Exactly my thoughts, I dont have Kearsage but I saw her in diferent games when playing. It is OP when driven by a competent player. And the new line of hibrid ships will make the gameplay only worse and more and more passive to the moment the game will become to be unplayable. Time will tell if I am right, but games I play in Randoms are already passive for a long time and I dont like that.

I will never ever play CVs in this OP form because they ruin the gameplay for all other ship clasess. Finally that you say that you are an Exclusive CV player. 5K CV battles, great achievement, congratulations! Now I fully understand why you were against everything I and other players said. You dont like the idea off nerfing CV spoting so you would not have the possibility to increase your HP and trash on surface ships from the sky. I wont speak to you anymore because as a CV player you have completly different prospective on this topic. You could tell me that you are an avid CV player so I would not speak with you on this topic. CV rework is something you and other selfish CV players dont wont to happen.

You said everything I think too. I am perhaps nostalgic on the the past days that gone away. Like you say they try to atract new players and that is that. All our posts are meaningless. They will not listen to us and will keep doing the things they wont.

WG hasnt acted on it because they dont wont to. Simply as that, they thought that more important is developing subs an putting all their effort on that instead to do the spotting rework. They have knowledge, emloyers and money, so believe me, if they wanted the CV spoting rework to happen they would achieve that no matter how complicated it is. I agree however that ni matter what we think they will follow their on path and strategy. You like how the game is in this state and that is fine, but I dont like and that is fine too. Because off that I am playing co-op games just to relax and get some rewards in form of steel and coal.

I try to give sugestions here on the forum because I like this game, i the past when it was the concept of the surface ships warfare. After CV rework, CVs become more and more stronger and surface ship AA pityfull. Devs didnt reworked all ships AA and they should. They act like CVs are their favorite class, which is sadly the true. I agree that Cv spoting is complicate to balance but they had a lot off time and didnt done anything and probably wont in the future. Only broken promises, but they worked five years on developing subs. This time had been used to do other more important things like Cv spoting, new maps for diferent game mods, imoroving AA on all ships, fixing artillery aiming bugs and a lot off other bugs, and so on.

AtaIante is speaking like a WG emloyer, and probably he is, because he thinks that people dont have the right to an opinion and to question WG devs doing.

You can disagree with me but do not trash me or be impolite. You have your opinion but I have mine. Forums are the places to tell your thoughts or ideas. My stats are not your concern and I have a lot of games to be able to know how CVs are OP. Off course you are most likely a CV player or you have your own reasons for defending wows devs. But you cant defend indifendable. Flamu and a lot of CCs former and that have a high knowledge of the game told diferent times how CVs are OP and that spoting mechanic should be rework and I share their opinion because in every game I play CVs drop me regulary no matter my dodging and being in a bb, cruiser or dd. You are free to sympathize their [edited]if you want, I dont care.

It is not difficult at all, it is only their goodwill to balance them. It needs time but instead of doing much needed CV balance they introduced subs that were developed for five years! Instead of developing subs they could fix a lot of things that were already present in the game and that are not fixed. I am not satisfate like a lot of players how they develop this game. That is their game of course but I wont spend a cent because of that. I will remain only free to play player. They deserve that all the players ground them because wows devs are intentionally ruining the gameplay of most players for money grab on short term. They are not incompetent for my liking, you are wrong. They do or dont do things on purpose and CV spoting is not done on purpose. Have a nice evening mate.

@Seraphice@YabbaCoe You plan to return to this EVENTUALLY. Eventually is a word that means that you dont wont to adress CV spoting issues because you at wows probably think that this would make them weak and not balanced and that would be less CV players playing CVs because of that change. That is not thrue because there is many more players playing other clasess than those playing CVs. So for handfull of CV players wows devs ruin intentionally the gameplay for other players. In last two years I paid and bought some premium ships which were not cheep because I wanted to support your game development, but I wont give you a damn cent anymore! And I am not the only one doing that.

I know but I tagged them on purpose to see if I can get any answer over this topic. Because as I know they havent done anything, and should have done something to reduce CV spoting. But the devs clearly dont care about surface ships anymore, they care only about their favorite class CVs and subs trying to improve them to be most OP as possible and inventing new CVs and subs almost every day. Malta is the new king of the skyy😅

No, I wonted to make presurre to devs to finally change and balance something👌But I know also that wont heppen. But at least I am trying from time to time🙂

Yes, but as far as I remember noone of wows moderators gave us the exact info wether the CVs spoting rework will be implemented or not and at which stage they are in the process of implementation.

But this are six ships, randoms are 12vs12. Or perhaps it is a bad picture🙂you want to show me with one game that they are balanced but clearly one game is not represenative sample at all. In my games on all tiers, every day, I see how OP they are even if drived by semi competent players. And subs are OP too. Wows devs tried to balance them but they didnt manage to do that properly. I dont have anything against CVs and subs, but currently they are OP because even those who sucks at driving them properly can do at least 80000 to 100000 damage minimum per game. Try to do that in dds, cruisers or bbs. It is a lot, lot harder because you have to manouver, dodge and Fire your guns in the same time. CVs strike you with their planes and they are behind an island at 25 km in safety. How cute this is🙂

Tanaka, you are right, but this is bad for quality of the gameplay of all players. I was hoping they will fix spoting but like you, i lost any hope. For this reason more and more players will quit playing the game, and lot already gone. Those are players that played this game for long time and a lot of them have bought a lot of premium ships. But when someone go away, he wont be buying anything anymore. So wows like a company loose money. Do they wont to loose money on purpose or the people at their firm is incompetent? PS this is a question for them, not for you🙂

Hunter, this is ranked. In ranked they are strong but not like in Randoms. In this topic I posted, was thinking more about how OP they are in Randoms, at least in games I play. Ranked games are shorter and smaller teams play so their impact is usually smaller. And one game you show to me is not representative enough, because we all see how CVs are trashing surface ships in Randoms. Malta CV, Richtoffrn and Russian ones. And there are more super CVs yet to come.

Dont agree with you, I play not only high tier ships but also mid tiers from tier 6 to tier 8. I played a lot off battles and on lower tiers CVs can strike you even better because lower tier ships AA is bad. And subs are present a lot more on lower tiers than they are in high tier games. I think that is because a lot of surface ships have radars on high tiers. What happened with carier plane spoting rework? Wows devs said that they will decrase CVs spoting of other ships and the concept seemed to be promising, but wows devs suddenly stopped with doing that. I think that AA on all surface ships should be reinforced a lot because they are more and more introducing new OP cariers.

Thanks for your opinion mate. My coal and steel coupon is refreshing in Decembar. I should choose a ship and I am better ad cruisers and bbs then in a dds that I only ocasionally play, mainly Marceau. From cruisers for coal I have all except Yoshino and Carnot. I have all other coal bbs. Are Yoshino or Carnot a good choice or should I save my coal for Brisbane which soon will be realised for coal. Brisbane is a HE Minotaur with 4x5 torps, 10 km radar and hydro,4.5 sec reload, that looks promising,but it is a glass bote like all light cruisers with 16 mm plaiting. I am also at 2000 steel from my first steel ship. For my first steel ship I narrowed my choice to Shikishima or Bourgogne which is the favorite ship of many players. I dont have Yamato and dont intend to grind to it, so do you think in that case that Shikishima would be the best choice? I also dont have any ship with Yamato size guns, so I think it would be intetesting to me the most. Or should I go for Bourgogne? I would apreciate your advice.

I forgot that, I think that now is complete. I think that reload boosters should be erased by wows devs. Why some ships have reload boosters and 90 percent of other ships dont. Does it make for instance Conde and Annapolis OP? I think that for the sake of the gameplay no ship should have reload booster. That is only my opinion of course, and I know that wows devs wont listen to me. Ships without reload boosters feel powercrapt in confront of those ships who have them. That is not fair😔

Absolutely Lungol, you share the same my opinion. The gameplay of every game the players play should be fun and enjoyable for all ship classes. Right now, the gameplay is enjoyable at op superships, subs and cvs that can literaly crap at other players and make them feel miserable.

Yes you are absolutely right in almost all things you mentioned. I think you are for sure better Marceau player than I am. It is ok to be permaspoted, but it was strange to me that the Cv player was constantly droping my Marceau with speed boost on and he didnt want to target any other bb all the game. Bbs as you know are easier to drop than dds like Marceau. But all the game 20 minutes he wonted to drop only me. The cv player was excellent and he hit me twice no matter my dodging and speed boost and def AA. And super ships instead off my team they were firing only at me🙂it was a bad game for me, a nightmare, but because they targeted only me, my teammates took the victory. I think Marceau is the most hated ship by all enemy team. As they see me they all focus firing me till I die😅

Hi @Seraphice Thank you for your response. The game described I played around 11am on Sunday. It was 12vs12 game and it was strange to me that was overpopulated with superships plus one Cv. That didnt happen to me before. Except me as a tier 10 Marceau, there was one tier 9 bb on my side Prinz Ruprecht. It was indeed bad experience for him because in one moment he shown broadside at enemy Conde, that destroyed him with 3 repeted consecutive salvos by Conde reload booster. This was so bad to see because Prinz Ruprecht seemed to be nothing in comparation with enemy Conde. At the end as I say we won, but I think as many other players that many ships seems to be powercraped in comparation with newly released super ships with reload boosters. Superships are now too strong in comparation with tier 10 ships, not to mention tier 9 ships. And for tier 9 ships a lot off players paid they real money. Could you guys at wows cut down the reload boosters that superships have? It truly mess up the gameplay badly for a lot of players. Or if you dont want that simply make match making different.

Yeah, this is exactly my opinion too.

If this is the reason wows devs think, than they can be sure that I wont play this anymore. I dont wont to play op superships, op cariers and subs and wont change my mind. I like concept of the game that was couple of years ago, and this now ruins the gameplay.

How can it be workable? If you show the tiny amount of broadside to a super ship, that ship with reload booster can smash you with 3 repeted salvos and bring you back to port. How this can be balanced at all? You have a lot of battles played under your belt. If you like experienced player think that this is not a problem, what then wows devs and moderators think? They like you think that everything is fine in this game, lol

You got a wrong impression. My opinion is that for the sake of the game and overall playabillity number of superships should be restricted to a certain number when they are fighting tier 10 and 9 ships. In my game I was the only ship that is not tier 11. I think that mm should be changed. Do you think the same? Because right now superships are better than tier 10 ships with reload boosters that they can spew against tier 10 ships. I think that superships are OP and like submarines and cariers should have their own battle mode. And dds, bbs and cruisers should have their separate one. Because I like this game I wont play superships, subs and ships which rely on some gimick that can, because of that ruin the gameplay of other players. Or wows devs for baalncing purposes should, perhaps introduced main batery reload booster for every tier 9 and 10 ship so we can efectively fight superships.