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I tried them and they sucked.

While the AA values in this game are sort of all-or-nothing and especially being uptiered in a CV or uptiered against a CV sucks, not all TX ships have even passable AA. It's just that the ones that don't aren't played all that much. The entire problem is still that the CV-ship interactions are unsatisfying on both ends, because nobody outplays you with their AA. It's just how much numbers they have. Although getting lots of plane kills in some powerful AA boat can be satisfying, so idk.

Stop crying about people crying about people crying about subs. Just like staple your tear ducts shut!

Or start smashing them right from the get-go in the case of some CV like Haku. Meanwhile not even CV can do anything to submarines. Not even soviet space radar can.

Well you could give kurfurst 6km torpedo launchers and basically nothing would change. Getting it to those ranges these days...

? I shot at him when he came up as did the Maerker and he went down, but still got torps off.

At least with CV you get some AA numbers and your own CV will, theoretically, help you with spotting and setting up crossfires and whatnot, and when the game is over you might get to smash the carrier for some numbers. The submarine you will never see and he doesn't interact with the team. All submarine does is be invisible and oneshot people.

Seems to me also that some depth charge launchers launch a bunch, pause, then launch a bunch, such as in trashcan. Also : ASW war part 1 ASW war part 2 Try dodging submarine torps from 2km, even without ping. hue

I haven't been able to figure out what to play in ranked. T8? With CV and sub? Eh? Maybe just Kidd because it's best for everything ever. Must crush communism! And I was told no-fly zones aren't a thing.

The stern in position, ready to kite or disengage is good, while bow in unable to do either is bad. The game simply has so much damage.

For starters, depth charges should be way more lethal to submarines. They don't care about fire and flooding since they always have dcp available and the bomb damage is pathetic across the board. They should force sub to surface, or maybe sub shouldn't have dcp, or perhaps just the bomb damage need to be 3x higher. But best would be to not include them at all. They add nothing and instead detract from the game, even moreso than carrier.

Pretty funny how in two weeks I have had more 2-3 battleship games than in ~two years. I think I'll quit battleships too, sniping at kiting targets from max range when you're also kiting is frickin' boring.

Deadeye would not be good enough anymore tbh. We need deadsub and anti-nakhimov armor skills.

Well yeah. I had anticipated Shimakaze being good at killing submarine when I looked at the number of bombs it gets, but... I suppose sinking a submarine just isn't allowed.

Oh also, I just now had the opportunity to depth bomb a T8 german submarine. 18 bombs, two charges, seems pretty good, right? It didn't care. 5 hits and I got rushed down by their Gearing and a cruiser and had to trade with the Gearing :( Seems like the way to go vs. submarines is "don't".

I focus on areas, more like. Usually at the beginning stages of the match just torp different places. Even having to maneuver around torps can get ships blasted by your team. It all depends on who's doing what. Mostly just go where you can spot targets that your team can shoot at, so look at their line of sight a bit. Like my tip would be to not focus on torp use all that much even. Stay alive and scout.

Well like 90% of the time it's another Shimakaze or a Halland. Of course games like that still happen infrequently, since most BB will just kite to the back of the map.

I vouch for 20km because my experience is that it's the WORST when your DD's die, and I'll rather take an alive zero damage DD in my team than one that went too close to the sun and died heroically. With 20km torp you just focus even more on scouting, staying healthy, screening, area denial and all that less risky stuff. The 12km option creates an incentive for you to get closer, and possibly killed. You'll need to be smarter and more aware if you use the shorter ranged weapons, and will need better support from team when the communists and the DD hunters are in your vicinity. Pick the option suited for how good you think you are, really. I mean, most Shimakaze go around for a flanking maneuver that accomplish nothing and often gets them killed, so the bar for doing better than average isn't high.

I play 20km Shimakaze quite often. It's a good scout, has basically no reason to ever die to anything and often times you get massive damage numbers. If you pick 20km torp, think of it not as 20km sniper but rather a more than 12km boat, since then you can attack without unnecessary risk. Remember that most high tier battleships - especially the godawful German ones - have glacial rudders and massive hulls. They can see your torps, but it does not help them. My entire mindset on the Shimakaze is that it's a scout first and foremost, and then sometimes you get these games

Just Furious, FP + Heal/Conceal depending on the ship. Like Yamato does not need concealment expert to sit in I-line, while some others might need concealment instead of heal to do their job a bit better. Maybe heavy AP shells even as the last skill in 21 points for the bigger caliber BB, though burning longer from every random CV rocket plane or conqkek shot probably sucks too much in tradeoff for a bit more alpha. But always, always always FP even with Furious. Getting doublefires on your midsection is terrible.

Erm, at least on the T10 KMSUB you can just beeline through the enemy team to their spawn. Ping CV from range so his DCP ticks, count the seconds, then oneshot CV. Nothing can spot you other than another submarine and you'll still have battery left when you're done. Even better if you div with CV who can go and set a random fire on the CV so you don't have to wait as much.

Just pick the Furious skill, you can't DCP fires anyway since you'll just get submarined.

Thanks WG, I didn't know you'd make the supercruiser I always wanted. Maximum flanking speed. Commence pénétration of puny, less French citadels. Disrespect sniper battleship that couldn't kill you even if they knew how to lead. It's like what if HIV didn't instantly explode if you made a mistake and just in general had better ability to smash with it's AP.

Some, but I've tried to do teamplay. Driving off to the enemy spawn and then sniping at their [edited]or their CV is much better damagewise.

Cool! But the incentive of buying a T6 premium cruiser is... It's Spanish? Perhaps if WG add spanish voice lines.