Aethervoxx

As WoWS has ship classes to play in the historical period of when Subs & CVs became recognised classes of ships themselves, I support the idea of CVs & Subs being in WoWS together. Do I agree with the type of CV that we have in WoWS at present? No. Personally, I would prefer the older RTS style of CV play. I think the player jury on CVs is split into three - ones who don't want CVs at all, others who prefer the current reworked CV play & the last who would prefer the RTS style of CV play. Do I agree with Subs in WoWS? Yes. Subs are still a 'work in progress' (apparently) so the jury is still out on how they will be. I think the player jury on Subs will split into the similar three - ones who don't want Subs at all, others who like the Subs & ofc the last who will clamor for some kind of alteration to current Sub play. CVs & Subs (or Subs & CVs) will be what WG wants them to be. It will be what it is (ultimately). What will the player be able to do? Simply vote with their feet (either way). For now, I will continue to play (battle) hoping I can sink, in random battle, some 'certain' players (well, sink as many enemy as I can)

I have to agree with Cippalippus. As these Subs are presently designed, they most likely will make WoWS worse. This game was good until Jan 2020 then the plug in the bathtub was pulled. I guess there's T1 - T3 still, although, those tiers usually have far too many Bots even in random battles.

I'm not sure you are sane enough to determine which 'majority of BB players that have fun in random are sane'.

Subs in co-op appear to be pretty useless. They are slow. The other ship classes just run out & sink pretty much all the Bot player side before your human controlled Sub can do much of anything. Subs in co-ops is a really boring experience. Furthermore, who will waste the money to fill the module slots? What is with T6 or higher Subs with no Cpt skills? This is unrealistic. Why waste any signal flags? Why use any decent camo but the basic 3%/4% one for 22.5k? I've seen both T6 & T10 Subs. I must say the T10 ones look good esp the Ger type XXI.

Don't mine me for ideas on how to sink Subs Camperdown. I think Subs will have it tough enough without anyone being told what is best to do. I'll be trying to survive, as best I can, in one of those tin cylinders .

You have made many comments here, gabberworld, for sake of space I just use this one post - sure you may be correct but, personally, I doubt this. WG has sunk too much time & resources into Subs for them not to be a 5th 'main' class. I fully expect Subs to be a permanent feature of this game (& sooner rather than later).

Who knows why the MM & RNG has to whip players the way it does. I saw a horrid 10/11 game loss streak in Ranked & I sure didn't see any 10/11 game win streak in recompense. There's only one thing to do - immediately quit playing WoWS as soon as you see even one horrid MM & RNG battle - & don't forget to take screenshots of the excrement & send it to CS.

.... in your hurry, you forgot to spell 'success' correctly . This answer has to be marked as a red 'X' .

I failed to realize how nasty & effective the Kamikaze R is (& that is my preferred DD play-style (the wall - o - torps) so I mistakenly did not get it. As it is, when I see a Kami R on the enemy team I will do my best to delete it with extreme prejudice (if it appears close enough to me, that is).

With the 10.0 Cpt skill rework, it took me hours to reset all my Cpts &, ofc, we all know what a 'headache' the Cpt rework is/was. Here comes round #2. These Cpt skill reworks are a 'pain' and I find there's just a few builds that are any good. Imho, WG should have left the original skills well enough alone & just added minimally to them over time but WG can't, can they?

I'm speculating that this CLAWS clan is some sort of 'exploit' that the current rules allow? If so, this is just player testing of the rules and this is on the game developer to resolve with a rule alteration. Simple game design reality - the players will exploit any rules anomaly they find - it's what players do. This is game design workshop 101 (basic game design parameters) from the age of 'paper board gaming'.

Roflstomps are far too frequent. If memory serves, they weren't so common in the early years of this game. Now we have very short battle times. Gee, I wonder if there's a connection here?

I think WG generally refuses player requests is because these requests often don't or won't give WG more money. It is clear all WG cares about is money. It certainly isn't (imho) the state, in general, of the game.

Ya, 'Once' - like before the disaster that was the CV rework.

I'd be a really happy WoWS player if WG removed the CV rework from the game & returned the RTS CV style of play (& ofc, the old pre CV rework AA play & ofc the old Cpt skills).

I'm sure many players have a Cpt they shuffle between 4 different classes of ship. I suppose they need to know if this 4 class Cpt will now have 5 classes (due to Subs arriving). I know it's much less efficient (high Cpt pt-wise) but I just run a dedicated Cpt on all my vessels then I save all that time moving a Cpt from ship to ship.

I chose 'other' as in I will try them in co-ops first just to learn how to play them somewhat then, yes, try them in ranked, I'd prefer, tho, to just plunge with T6 Subs into randoms right away. I have mid pt Ger, Ru & US Cpts ready to plunk into those steel cylinders once they can be accessed. I'm interested in what will WG offer as rewards for utilizing Subs.

I believe so. I liked the Iowa though I have now exp ground onto the Montana (Cpt got the promotion )

Some business people do have 'principles' which they adhere to.

Sure I do & fyi, Pete, I will continue to do so since there's always a chance I will see you in randoms again & on the other team.

I will be avoiding this particular fiasco by not participating in it .

I think, Ocsimano18, you used the wrong description for your topic heading. If the container content is random - you simply lucked out in getting a perma camo for one of your T10 ships you have (in this case the Daring). WG never bought your soul - you just lucked out. If you began to praise WG to the sky saying things like "WG can do no wrong" then we might think WG did buy your soul. I think you are safe for now (unless there's something we don't know yet).

I've seen Bots invading tier 5 random battles & this at prime gaming time. Imho, this is a sign the patient is getting hooked up to life support.

What 'balance'? There is very little. I saw one of the worst 5-6 gaming sessions today I've ever seen. Totally unbalanced MM & RNG. When I see this amount of an utter garbage playing session - there's just a few options left besides outright uninstalling the game. 1) I will never give WoWS (WG) another penny. 2) I will never recommend WoWS (or any other WG product) to potential new players. I value RL friends & acquaintances more than a leach gaming company. 3) I will just play much less because who wants to experience an almost continually bad gaming experience? Personally, I'm at the point where I would like to see WG go bankrupt.

... .far too much of it .... into the Owners pocket.