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I can't even see it anyway. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Pro tip to OP : Don't mess with colours and formatting so that other forum members can see what you write.

Now if this 5th column inside WG could only remove them from the game.

You can sometimes proc Lutjen's talents in co-op, but the match is usually nearly over by the time you do. He is good in Scenarios though. Yup, he'd be good on Schlieffen. Though I have him on Preussen (used to be GK) where he does OK there too. Probably better on the former than the latter in co-op as I think Schlieffen can chuck out more secondary hits.

Nah. Most fast BBs do OK. The useless ones are slow BBs like Colorado and the Kansas line. High tier British BBs (T9 Lion) struggle too as their gimmick (HE + fires) relies on damage over time, and co-op matches don't last long enough to stack that much fire damage up.

At high tiers, Benham & French turbo DDs annihilating bots is a bit of an issue, yes. But is doesn't happen that frequently. If you do spawn next to such a DD, escort it but look around for targets to your sides as well. Those might show a bit more broadside that may be a more suitable target as you may get better shell penetrations, instead of ricochets/non-pens on the bow-on ships ahead of you. What might be an alternative for T8 BB grinds are Scenarios, when they eventually return after the Halloween / Wolfpack rubbish is out of the way. FWIW: Just did a couple of co-op matches in Zeiten and made a profit of 50k & 80k with no economic bonuses, but premium time.

Zeiten is pretty good in co-op, once you take the odd turret layout in account. I generally made a profit grinding both German BB lines. Though at high tiers I was generally running a premium account, and had economic bonuses mounted.

Monthly SC dropped a bunch of the rarer signals.

It can. Giving away something prevents them from buying it in the premium shop. Granted, it's low chance "something" in the case of a super-container dropping a premium ship.

And yet my fave T10 earners are Des Moines & Minotaur Always surprises me though how much other players waste ammo - shooting islands, ASW airstrikes against spotted surface ships, etc, etc.

Same here. I'm not going to be part of the problem. Unfortunately, many sub players haven't taken the opportunity to play Wolfpack either and still infect co-op.

Battle Expert Also in there is Score Timer Damage Meter Secondary Armament All mods installed from ModStation available from https://worldofwarships.eu/en/content/modstation/

OK, GZ is a premium, but the meme still stands

I've only had a few lag spikes and one SERVER OVERLOADED from here in the UK. However, what apparently can be an issue for players on the continent is if your connection is routed through Frankfurt, IIRC, which sounds like it has a notoriously bad packet loss. However, a VPN can be used to route around that.

I don't have Benham, sadly, but the same thing can happen if you're in Mogador, Kleber or Marceau which seem to have a similar no-cap-kill-all yolo playstyle.

Destroyers are quite strong in co-op. The only ones I struggle with are the Pan Euro and early/mid tier French ones. So co-op could be a good place to practice. Me too. But from what I've read elsewhere on the forum, co-op isn't probably ideal for CVs as the matches don't last long enough for them to deal much damage. Rarely do I see anyone in a CV at the top of the scoreboard.

"Design" implies some kind of fore thought.

I wonder what the list looked like before the exodus....

WG already have - camos are now completely and utterly useless.

Fixed that for you.

True. Worst is when you spawn on one flank of Two Brothers, and the bots all bugger off to the opposite one. Even a French turbo DD can struggle to score well. Having just unlocked Vermonster I can relate to that. Or Benham. The faster torp reload on Moggy & Kleber seem better for me. Guns + MBRB on the opposing DD. By the time that's dealt with the torps are ready to take on a cruiser & BB. Marceau can still be loading its torps at that point.

That was one I actually did as I'm currently grinding the British BCs, which seem OK in co-op. Completing the mission was basically a side-effect of doing the tech tree grind.

Depends on the BB. Slow mid tier US BBs (New Mex, Colorado) and the newer Kansas+ branch suffer from the slow speed and, in the case of the latter, long reload time. However, German ones (both branches) do well with good speed, reload, turret traverse and secondaries. The infamous poor accuracy (of the original Bismarck+ line) is less of an issue in co-op as combat occurs at much closer ranges than PvP. I agree that co-op doesn't seem ideal for CVs though.

subs CVs at T9, superships Toxicity players that are actually worse than me

We're streamlining the process - PM's acceptance speeches will end with their resignation speech. Gag from Paul Merton on tonight's episode of Have I got News for You.

What, both of them? I'm sure WG would be shaking in their boots.