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Dido does OK in operations. I'm finding her AP quite effective against broadside cruisers.

Think I'm getting better at Raptor Rescue, but only 4 out of 5 stars. Shame I died to the last enemy ship though, about 20 sec before we completed the mission. Even though Dido only has tiddly 133mm guns, it's AP can be highly effective on broadside cruisers - was getting 10k salvoes.

A scenario perhaps?

Now there's an oxymoron - up there with "Military Intelligence".

I haven't played WoT so I'm not sure what notification you get there, but have heard that you do get rewarded for it. Not sure why you don't get rewarded in WoWs - always seemed strange that WoT does and WoWS doesn't. There is an option in WoWs to show spotting (and potential) damage but ... it's not enabled by default. Who knows how many know about that option, and use it.

It's just a pity that players, what ever the class, don't get rewarded for spotting damage.

Wow, I didn't know about that, but that is pretty cheesy especially from your so-called security software. I'm not sure WoWS is doing that though - if you alt-tab / minimize WoWs, so there's nothing visible to render, CPU & GPU utilization drops significantly. GPU temp of my laptop RTX 2060 dropped to 36ºC with 0% usage while browsing this forum with WoWs running in the background, Fjords port FWIW. If there was a background thread mining crypto, WoWS would still be accumulating significant CPU time, even if some crunching was off-loaded onto the GPU. Granted the paranoid might say the thread could get suspended when you alt-tab away to reduce system load, but hey ... some others believe the Earth is flat.

The initial proposal for ships being spotted by planes, ie just showing them on the minimap, sounded promising. Probably best to see what effect that has, and how it is received by the player-base : ie going back to WGs recent "incremental change" philosophy. The most recent dev-blog (internal test) just sounds far too complicated and gimmicky.

We don't mind the danger - provided there is an effective counter. So far the counter seems to be : "Hope the CV doesn't notice you" Just another RNG element I guess. FWIW: I don't report CV players as a matter of course. I've even complimented two this week. One that backed my Bismarck up when the guys that spawned next to me cleared off. The other pushed up near(ish) to the cap so I covered him with smoke from my Anchorage. He complimented me in chat so I returned the favour. I rarely report (never run out of them IIRC), but frequently compliment (often do run out). When I report it's for bad play, so BBs abandoning you on a flank or, back in Dead-Eye days, attempting to be a long range snipah so your cruiser/DD is left out to hang in the open with no back up. CVs that are useless and/or come in at the last minute, after you've held a flank for most of the match, to blatantly kill steal** the last ship you're fighting. Despite the fact there are other, juicier, targets. ** Kill-stealing isn't normally something I get bothered about as it can happen inadvertently, eg you fire at a healthy target at range, while your shells are in transit someone else chunks the same ship but doesn't quite sink it. Then, your one overpen kills it.

I'm now waiting for some weirdo to go "Yum, that's my favourite"

TBH, that can happen when you're in any BB. Even more prevalent at higher tiers when there's ships like Benham and French turbo DDs that can yolo-torp the bots before they've reloaded their guns. Hint: arrange your mid and aft turrets to point towards the other caps. You can sometimes blap the citadel of a cruiser or take a chunk out of a BB heading towards the next cap zone.

At least you didn't spawn in the lagoon.

I enjoyed Normandie & Lyon. At 27knots, I wouldn't say Lyon is slow. Not many T7 BBs will out-run her - Gneisenau and Scharny spring to mind with Caracciolo & KGV on a par. With battleships with that type of turret layout (I had played Izmail/Okt Rev beforehand) I found it useful to plan my route in advance. Yup, in co-op there's often not that much time, but if you can bring your considerable broadside to bear, on one or more targets, it can really pay off. FWIW, I had one of my most memorable co-op matches in Lyon:-

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On the contrary, if there were effective counters to aircraft carriers I would be all for them - after all they were a key ship class in many Naval theatres. But for a game they need to be balanced. I am (along with many others, I suspect) anti any ship class that has no effective counter, same as subs, like I said earlier:- I even pointed the one weakness of CVs - lack of ASW. CVs get hand held without taking any meaningful risk while ruining the game for everyone else, why would I be in favour of that? To recap: CVs can't detonate, yet can detonate surface ships CVs can't be (effectively) incapacitated yet can incapacitate other ships CVs can't be (effectively) set of fire or flooded yet can set fires & floods on other ships CVs can spot other ships for the rest of the team yet can stay out of harm's way - which to be fair is where they should be, it's the spotting that's unfair. And then there's the AA/fighter plane effectiveness (or lack of) , unlimited plane/pilot supply and BS invulnerability phases.

Slight necro here, but your score isn't always about raw damage. In this co-op match I did naff all, only got one kill but took a cap on my own and came 2nd in the team score board. The targets I did damage were ships with a small health pool, so my measly damage was a significant percentage of their total. The Colorado & Benham, who spawned on the Eastern flank next to me, sailed towards the centre cap, I assume to farm damage, and came at the bottom.

I know co-op is waaay different to randoms, but the few all-cruiser co-op matches i've had have generally been pretty underwhelming. Basically they're over even shorter than normal as everyone takes out their evil twin and we all score one kill. So, variety is the spice of life. It's just some spices are tastier than others.

Not sure that would be a good idea. I like the idea of rock/paper/scissors that Naval combat should provide: BB > CA/CL > DD > BB. Even super-cruisers fit in between the BB & CA hierarchy. It's just a shame that CVs tend to trump every other surface ship and there's no real counter to them. Something similar can be said about subs - their real-life predators, destroyers & aircraft (looking at you, CVs), are the least effective counter in WoWS. In the end excluding all but one class wouldn't be that great, I'd imagine it would devolve into BB vs BB : boring max range snipe-fest - kings of overmatch vs Conq/Thunderer burn-fest. ** sad GK, Montana, ITA BB noises ** cruiser vs cruiser : probably would end up as a Petro/Moskva bow tank face-off DD vs DD : could be interesting though I'd guess gun-boats would rule there, French turbo DDs could be strong. Pan-Asian DDs would end up as port queens, maybe IJN torp boats too.

If my (dodgy) interpretation is correct it looks like you might need to update your mods.

Simple, just put CVs in an all-CV match.

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I've not done a reset yet. But if one were to regrind a line, without using FreeXP, what is the best policy regarding commanders? I'm guessing using your former, high level, T10 Hindenburg (for example) commander on T3 Kolberg onwards would be a waste of elite commander XP, because of the prohibitive retraining costs when you go from one tier to the next. So would a better plan be to recruit a 6pt commander for Kolberg and training him up through to T9 Roon? When you get to T10 Hindenburg again bring your old commander back out of reserve.

Yup, that was my next step. Exit client Chose the "Play w/o mods" option in ModStation (which adds the --safemode cmd line flag) -> Weimar unlocked Exit (safe-mode) client Restart Wows, this time with mods enabled -> Weimar still available. FWIW: this was running WoWS via Steam, so hopefully if anyone else gets this problem they can use the same solution.

Thanks guys!

IIRC T2 Mikasa has a worse detection range than it main guns. Though stealth, and the main guns for that matter, is of secondary importance with that. But yeah, it's not common.