AlphaBaboon

Not the first time WG releases a completly broken ship. It serves to attract players and keep people speaking about something. Don't worry this insanity will be resolved but another broken ship will break through your screen soon enough. The point is that you need to get acquainted with ships that look to have insane dpm and/or fire chance, but remember that no ship is unbeatable, even less the Smol, which is even quite squishy if well caught off-guard and with embarassing low hp. It's shattering is even high due to its caliber. Indeed it has its weak points, as any ship, you just need to take advantage of it and avoid his sprays of fire. I managed to solo a Smol with my Khaba. Took time and some covering and back and forth but I did it. On the other hand, I found very hard to manage Smols in my Kurfurst, but this is obvious when you are on a massive juggernaut particularly inclined to melt at any occasion. Btw, no ship should ever push you to leave the game, there are plenty of other reasons :D but still here we are!

It should not surprise that almost in each clan battle the enemy team has a Vladi. Solid ship indeed, as any other late RU BB (until t6 especially they are ultra squishy and get citadels so easily): I have the impression that from whatever angle they fire and whatever is my angle they do massive damage with their AP, just insane and good dispersion too. Only way I managed to deal with Vladi (as it is for the other upper tiers) was ambushing her broadside with my Bismarck, because when the ship is bow prowned there is no [edited]way you can do anything at all to her at equal tier

Pretty sure it's a visual bug. It happened to me as well, if you just log out and in you should see the stars properly set

Good work over here. Not very competent in Scandinavian modern ships, but it would be a great add having gun firing vikings in our trees. I definitely prefer adding new proper lines than just random premiums. It would be very unusual to mix the tree with cruisers and dd all together, this means in theory that the progression would be basically fucked up but if a player is ok that he will never play a viking cruiser for more than the VIII tier ok, good for him, he knows he will have to turn to destroyer. That's a personal choice and it would not impact the balance of battles. BTW we could add Harald FairHair ultra-tough viking DRAKKAR as a battleship :D

It should be yes. For my personal experience it was not. I even managed to solo a full hp Smolensk with my khaba. The initial shell velocity is high, but it seems to slow down pretty quickly, like the akizuki, kita and haru. So as a khaba or also tashkent keep max distance, keep shooting and dodge. I'm not saying its easy but manageable. So I did at least and it worked well. Not saying I got out with all my hp from the duel but I got out winning it. I found Smolensk deadly against my kurfurst. never ending he spam and fires...

As most of the players would really be concerned about tactics and correct game play at all lol

sounds like when you press the buttom to beware planes incoming where there are no cv in the match lol

When broadsided they sink as any others very quick ;)

Whatever, I know it will never change, but personally I never saw the point in reporting someone for language only. While I reported many others for game play

I think I got reported for chat language just once, when used the word "fag", which of course a robot automatically submitted the report because it is too much politically uncorrect. Another zuckerberg big brother also in games? no thx

Tashkent is very good but Khaba is a monster if well played. You are more tanky, more guns, u just need to play costantly at costant range, choose your opponents carefully, switch them to cause multiple fires, AP when broadside, and 100 k will come easily, and of course much more in certain battles

They can call me ugly sono f a [edited], saying my mother was humped by a dozen of niggas, quote politics, whatever. Reporting for bad language is for soft twits and snowflakes. The only good reason to report is for game play. fullstop. I witnessed in ranked to enemy team been made of 2 people of the same clan and in mine one of that clan too, and this guys strove to make us lose, just to favor his two clan mates in the enemy team. He even voluntarily launched torps to me when we were just close. THESE are the kinds of behavior worth reporting, or AFK players or absolute imbecilles by any standpoint. The karma system is quite broken but I dont see how WG may manage appeals of thousands of players just for a "-1" in karma each time. Unless you get "red" and consequently excluded from randoms etc., just deal with it and keep playing

Considering that when you grow up in tiers a Kurfurst can, for instance, fire secondaries at 11.6 km, you really need manual to have your shells hitting the target at all. If it's true that the auto-aim system aims at the mid of the ship, when the ship is at a consistent distance (for secondaries), that is around 8 km and beyond, the dispersion will manage to have your shells hitting different portions of the ship. If the ship is really close, around 4 km or similar, it may be that manual fire training is not critical anymore. But if you are a battleship I doubt You want to run in that situation, unless you are a Tirpitz, a Sharn or Gneise and have torps helping out. As a secondary focused bb you want to stay around 8 or 10 km from your opponent, to ensure your primary guns can make good damage (german dispersion notoriously sucks at long distances) and have your secondary constantly dealing damage and possibly starting fires (which they actually do). If the core of your question is: can I start different fires on the same ship with secondaries? the answer is yes. Can you run a seondary build without manual secondary training? I don't think it has any sense at all. The dispersion bonus (from Tier VII up) is simply too much consistent to be ignored (60%!)

I heard bb Roma is mostly used by nostalgic Italian players, who usually complain (perhaps rightfully) because they do not have any monster to play with their own flag! In some (recent) youtube videos the ship seems to perform quite well, but I found several skeptical reviews on the web. What are the YES and NHA of this ship? is it a good choice for spending around 11K doublons (!!!)? Consider I mostly play German battleships, but i found no sense in taking the Tirpitz when I already enjoy the Bismarck and dont want to lose the hydro. I'm not a real fun of sniping at enormous distances and it seems that the Roma with her good detection radius is meant to perform better in close-medium range

Dear comrades and captains, I just read on some recent threads and on sporadic post/news on the internet that, in the (close?) future we might be using (and facing!) SUBMARINES! If this is true, in theory, I would really appreciate this addition into the game, since it would definitely make the experience more realistic. Why in a naval game are we allowed to have planes (see cv) and no submarines? In truth, I really fear how WG might be developing the whole thing, considering the poor work they are making (and have made recently) in redisegning and redeveloping the carriers. Now, some hints, based on my speculation: 1) A new dimension will inevitably be added to the game experience. We are accustomed to watch at the top of the waterline, sometimes also at the sky, when a CV is part of the match. If submarines are added, also what lurks below the surface will start to matter. 2) The introduction of submarines would also imply, inevitably, the add of new specific armaments, probably mines? Since it would be unthinkable to cope with submarines only with torpedoes. This means that all ships in the game should be revised and rebalanced in order to allow a new armament introduction. 3) The role of destroyers should be revised as well, as they would be the natural predators of submarines (in addition to the many roles that they still have to cover). 4) The spotting mechanics would be influenced as well, as submarines are notoriously good stealthy spotters, overall those with small dimension. 5) The number of submarines should be limited per every game, as it is currently for CV. I cannot think of the contrary. All such changes would imply a SERIOUS redeveloping of several game mechanics and redesign of all ships in the game, so there is a high risk of ruining everything that was achieved in years (or turning the game into a very enjoyable and realistic experience) I'm sure I'm probably forgetting something, and you are free and very welcome to add any other hint in addiction to the above. BTW, and most importantly, can we really expect submarines to come in the next future?! Thx all for your contribution! Eiric

I'm playing with FDG now, and before sleeping yesterday night I full broadsided a Missouri with 30K damage and sank her to the abyss.There was no flag that could save her from that doom :) Btw, if it's true you can influence a little more the outcome of ranked battles (since there are inevitably less players per battle), it is still true that: i) there are battles where you CANNOT win ii) there are battles where you CANNOT lose iii) there are battles where your contribution CAN make the difference, and this difference will not be given by flags, premium ships, etc. These may help, but unless you get detonated all the others are not really critical for WINNING the match with your team. They might for your personal battle performance, but overall they influece little the whole outcome of the battle. Do not fear about ships, with your jutland you can do excellent job, as me with my poor FDG (at the bottom of all t9 bbs together with Izumo, lol)

well perhaps because it was not specified in any other threads which object was different?

Not really sure is about "naval surface fleets". For now it is, but nothing would in theory prevent WG for making naval battles more realistic with the introductions of submarines. Of course there should be considered also convoys etc, but, also in this case, why not? its just a matter of slowly redesigning the game. The only issue would be whether WG could be up to the task

I'm really excited by the idea of introducing submarines. I have always wondered why (in a naval game) we allow planes (see cv...) and no submarines. Those bastards where no more dangerous in the opens seas than any other ship. Not sure how WG may keep the game relatively balance and how the game experience of submarines should be, but in theory the introduction is more than welcome by my side. Any hint when all these changes will be introduced?

Thank you all mates for your advices, all very usefull! Well, I decided not to pick up the Roma, also considering the insane purchase price, compared to the (few) pros that the ship might give. If i have to exchance a t8 bb with unprecise guns (such as my Bismarck) with another t8 bb with (maybe) even less precise guns and no real cons to counterbalance it, there is no real reason for spending a singol penny. ATM my only available purchase I made is the Prinz Eugen, which I really like overall. My next move on premium still remains a battleship (high tier possibly), any suggestion? I know there are few also that could be bought by using steel, butI'm still far from the necessary amount needed. Not interested in destroyers, I already have late tiers soviet and japanese (alt. line) gun boats, and I'm not much of a full torpedo guy. Thank you :D

Ok here is a pretty common but never ending issue: which is going to be the most effective gunboat line? I played the Akizuki, and despite I really liked the ship my win rate on her is pretty low and overall average damage leaves something to be desired. Perhaps I did not play the ship correctly, thats true, or maybe it is not the ship for me. I grinded enough exp to go kitakaze, instead I turned to the russian dd line, and I'm right now at the minsk. I'm aware I cannot expect having the same damage and overall results I have with my bbs (german line mostly), but still I want to make the gunboating works, because I find it really fun. The point it, my dpm with akizuki was higher, but considering she is as much fast as an iowa and turns slowly like hell I can never get out of bad situations. Sitting in smoke usually ends up with a torp in my [edited]. Furthermore, considering i have decent concealment, I tried to push on caps and often got sink, overall on t10 matches. With Minsk (which I know its still t7) i do not pretend to be a capper at all, unless in specific cases, and with my insane speed I can often turn away when outgunned. I can hit and run, something it's hard with akizuki and her 33 knots speed. Only very few matches with her by now, still managed to got decent damage, even more than 100K on a case, without using torps. Get more fires than expected. It sounds good, maybe, but I'm still unsure. Looking at the final prize, on the one side I have the Harugumo, with devastating long range torps and 10 100mm guns and acceptable concealment, even if not really great. On the other side i have the legendary Khaba, which has good reputation with her very high speed, 8 130 mm guns, good armor and even a repair party. I understood she should be played as a light cruiser and forget she's a dd. Very hard to decide, any hint? Oh... and now there is the british line, which I never really considered, but the Jutland and Daring looking at stats seem good, in gameplay good performers as well, when faced in the enemy team, I remember. Don't like the frenchi, never liked the baguette.

Well boy, I saw several videos where Khaba scored and insane damage only using guns, although not very recent. So you may get the little bastard working well :)

The fact I noticed in idling in smoke while spamming is that I often end up torped, thats what happened in my Aki... and I believe this might happen in all dd not benefiting from hydro. So germans and british dd should be safe in this. Probably thats true, at mid or end of the battle, when you or other teammates have already cleaned the area from other annoying dds or torp-focused cruisers. Well on khaba there is no smoke if you choose repair party, which would be the most smart idea considering the ship I suppose

Well I'm not a fun of dd hunting. Personally I often end up being chased (while chasing) by cruisers or focused by bbs. So it turns that I usually get more damage or equal to that im inflicting to the dd Im focusing, and considering I might have around 20K health pool thats not a lot :D So I prefer hurting dd only when I have occasion, but I'd rather go fire killing bbs and trying to citadel broad-sided cruisers, thats mostly my idea when gun boating. Really hard the capping part overall at the start of the match. And with russian dd is madness and almost impossible

The real problem in japanese gunboating is that you are (mistakenly) pushed to use your smoke to sit in and start spamming. But without hydro you end up torped to death. That being said, having a good hydro covering your back as in the Daring might really gives the upper hand in dealing with enemies when you have dds sticking around. OFC khaba groz and all russian late tier dd don't and cannot really rely on smoke