Maris_Piper

It all sounds to complicated for an Old Boomer and I'm thinking that I already have enough interaction with WG for now and I'll see how thing's go, with WOW's and Orion

Thank's for that.

I'm somewhat behind in the Gaming world nowadays is Masters of Orion a War Gaming product?

On first starting the game and being from England and into Naval History since I was a child I so looked forward to playing these ships, In reality they had world beating armour Great Guns etc It didn't take long to realise that what it offered in game is nothing like reality, they look pretty but that is about it. I went to the German and IJN line and ground those out.. Why 72 second turret travers I'll never know,. I did finally get to HMS Lion but then threw some coal at HMS Thunderer and thought it... What was done to HMS Vanguard was a Travesty even down to the wrong secondary armament .Rant Over

Over the last few weeks I've really reduced how much I play the last few days even more so yesterday about an hour or so and today nothing, I just keep reading what War Gaming are doing. On this thread where players are mostly up to the neck with what's happening on so many different points, just sitting watching a game they and I love playing being turned into a train wreck. Then look at other threads ,CV's that have proposed squadrons of flying cruisers causing a meltdown Threads displaying concerns over everything being monetised not little whinges but page after page .Players and CC's talking about what is next with a note of trepidation in their tone of voice and not the usual suspects either.. I watch the streams weekly Crysantos. Mr Conway and the rest they don't strike me at all as being bad people nor idiots just guys doing a job, So Why oh Why is all but a few of these new ideas (The good one's get buried by the bad) seem to want to screw things up cost us money, Break Promises, and drain the Fun out of a much loved game.. . I am just Totally Baffled.

Who ever is guiding War Gamings hands on the wheel seems to have a Dark and Sinister course plotted through Future Sea's in search of more and more Plunder. So Sad.

When the Naval Training Centre reared it's ugly head and the subsequent uproar ensued and then the renamed clone appeared was it not said that the RB would not hold anything that enhanced a ships capabilities in battle over those same ships that others could not get due to having no access to the Nava Research Bureau , I may be wrong but it seems that what people were saying at the time about WG waiting a while and then sneaking more stuff in there is coming to fruition, I may be wrong???

I've heard that so many times and it does seem very fragile when I've come up against it to say the least, That's been my next ship on the Royal Navy LC line for months and to be honest I just don't want to play it so it will probably get left until all else is done, at the moment I'm pondering the Drake and hoping it's not as Dire as the Cheshire ( I should have listened to the CC's on that one) at least I didn't buy the bundle

When you spawn and someone starts shooting you, the horns are blasting and the chat is constantly screaming Setasmokescreen,prividefiresupport,Ineedinteligencedata,Wilko and not long after managing to destroy a few enemy ships perhaps hold a flank "Your the last one" echo's in your ears, Random and Co-op and Scenario poor old Raptor is screwed fgs ( The Bots revenge), Interesting times to say the least, at least it makes me look a bit better than usual, enjoy Folks On the upside, Soo Many new Customers

I pretty much agree with that, I like playing the old Dreadnought types and it's just a bit of fun, ( CV's Permitting) but she was retro-fitted with AA guns in 1915 and her torpedo tubes would be "Interesting to say the least, but I would take the T3 cruisers and Destroyers over the Battleships to be honest just for the fun factor St Louis being my favourite

As a way for someone to test a ship before buying spending some credits makes sense if you can choose not gamble. Paying for ships no longer available is just rubbing your nose in it just my opinion'

I found this very informative Folks, I first ground out the German BB line and then alternated with the Royal Navy and IJN line I got to HMS Lion just as WG announced they were going to screw them over with the raised citadel (Probably Someone had Fun playing it)I just thought it.. Reading this I don't think I made the wrong choice having thrown some coal at HMS Thunderer I think I'll stick with that. Just on the subject of Royal Navy Battleships Where did the 72 second turret traverse idea come from fgs in reality they were faster than some of the in game rivals. if it was to counter balance German accuracy then that is no longer relevant unless it's because when the Royal Navy lent the Russian Navy HMS Sovereign it cams back with the turrets seized up due to rust and they thought that's how they were supposed to be

Did you read the post I did call it a glass cannon and it is after all not a compulsory purchase,, but the quip about the takeaway seemed to vex you a little, You say you order your take away from Just Eat to assure quality, You did not see, the TV documentary on Just Eat and Deliveroo then? you knock yourself out Dude and enjoy, I on the other hand do order mine from outlets with a food standards agency 5 star rating where the newly added system Just Eat have installed (Post Documentary) only enables you to choose a minimum of 3 stars only the rest is a gamble. I am also not sat at home alone plying WOW's I do have a family and would not dream of ordering myself a take away and leave them without,(Hence £30) perhaps others would I don't. anyway You Stay Safe and I hope you feel more calm and relaxed after your little rant Maybe get a take away

A ship I was looking forward to getting but didn't due to the complete lack of AA and the Infestation of the lower tiers with CV's, not the original ships fault it's like Dreadnought and a few more designed before aircraft could just about stagger into the air and dropped into battle with 1930's Aircraft Carriers and given no real defence, WG have to make up their minds Strict Reality or Fantasy running with both in the same game is not viable, AA would have been easy to add without stretching things to far, fgs if WG can invent a large part of a whole nations fleet what's a few heavy machine guns going to hurt at T5, Good Luck and Respect to anyone that plays the VU and for that matter HMS Dreadnought, But I'm never going to pay cash for any thing that's added into any game that gets a built in disadvantage over Free Stuff it makes no sense to me at all.

In the UK it costs £31ish about the same as other T8 Cruisers and it's not compulsory to buy it, I can thing of some T8 tech tree cruisers that would chew it up so I can't see a problem.. Anyone who buys it and expects a Prinz Eugen is going to be in for a shock as she's a bit of a Glass Cannon and has no heal, But it's Fun for less than the price of a Dodgy Takeaway and it won't make you ill

If you find something good let me know No Zombies, CV's or loot boxes though

Interesting indeed but alas WG won't listen, a pity really but that's how they roll nowadays,, being able to do missions etc would be so interesting, missions as a perhaps a Clan Challenges as well could be a nice change, you could add a separate section for players to hurl abuse at each other as well but make that optional please

Now that is one thing WG do excel at, most of the updates have had graphic improvements in them, I always look forward to seeing those, but has as been said the game does tend to lag a bit but I put that down to my graphics card

Another set of Great Big Nails for the WOW's Coffin Lid.

I to play the Scharnhorst like a Super Cruiser, and switch from AP/HE as Required I cannot fault the ship, the only drawback on mine is me. Probably the best value premium I've ever bought.

Another sit and scratch your A** while a target slips away reload, I'll pass on that pile of then, It annoys me enough on the Lenin. But I do have all the calmness and patients of a Wasp 1.Copy 2.Paste 3.Nerf

The Indy really does need some love, it's like a giant leaky petrol filled citadel the ship is never going to be a bruiser but the 25mm would make a difference the constant uptiering is a killer for her.

I'd got into my head that Carriers were not allowed in Clan battles, obviously I was wrong, No respite there then

Ok thank's four the info

I know how you feel, I've had some life changing operations after a freak accident plus a transplant, sometimes the prescription pain killers slow me down badly and Co-op is a god send for me, screwing up in PVP can be a little upsetting I hate letting my team down and the abuse is prolific but hey I managed rank one on my ggod days in 1 v 1 so Happy Enough... Keep Playing Dude