Afghanicus

That's why I would NEVER buy ANY loot box, especially not from WG. But as long as there are players like "Hammerald", they will keep doing it and pushing it down our throats. But you can just ignore it like me and move on.

One of the following items. Why do you think you'll get the worst one? You could get Alaska B with a permanent camo and a 10-skill commander for 1,250 doubloons which would be a pretty sweet deal. Even for me which didn't spend a single dollar so far. I know the chances are closer to zero than any other number but still... you either don't understand what gambling is or you're lost in some other part of the story I can't reach.

How do you know what a loot box might give you?

Oh, someone complaining about loot boxes? Don't you know what loot boxes are and what gambling is? I will never feel sorry for the ones filling WG's pockets using loot boxes and gambling.

Hey WG, what's new? Oh, ok. Didn't expect much so I'm not disappointed. Thanks but no thanks, I'll pass.

You found 2 BBs when playing 1 vs 1? And then 2 DDs? wut?

Yes, that's me but you're looking at the Random battles and I already said that I was playing only co-op with the pasta ships. I clearly said that in almost every post but seems like you missed that. I played Leander and Nurnberg and didn't disappear as fast. But that's just my experience. Yes, that;s Nagato but it was 10.8km, not 10km and it was not broadside. I also said that and even put up a screenshot to show that. I guess you missed that as well. Proof? You don't know they avoid torps all the time? Like they have a perma hydro on with a 20km range? You never noticed that even when you're in smoke, their guns aim at you if there are no closer targets or your smoke is about to run out? etc. I can only understand if you don't play co-op battles because this is very well known.

Are we talking about changes between the PTS and live server or after it gets released on the live server? Because I was talking about that time when the update goes live and such changes are already completed and everything stays as planned for the duration of the update. Right? There is absolutely no anger here. Hurry? Don't think so. I'm just asking in advance because it happens all the time and often "it's too late" then. Seems like I'm talking one thing and a whole different one is being understood.

Again.. I don't know what page are you looking at but it's irrelevant anyways. Unless you think I'm making stories up and not owning any pasta ships which would be very interesting indeed. I'm talking about base concealment. I play pasta ships only if I have to. I wouldn't invest any elite commander XP or throw away credits or doubloons on flags/camo for these useless ships anyways. Even with all skills, camos and flags, it's still worse than most ships in the same class and tier. I'm comparable to many BBs even tho I'm way smaller than them. Doesn't make much sense if you ask me. T8 BB will easily delete a T6 CL, I agree but seems like Trento disappears easier than the rest. And look at this (next game), I got over 18k HP ff by a T7 BB and this is not really broadside according to my vision and the angle indicator. P.S. Bots do suck but on the other hand sometimes their 'help' from developers (to make them suck less) like permanent hydro, visibility through rocks etc. is actually frustrating and I'd like if co-op would be more as a practice ground for Random (more difficult but more realistic) instead of potato players who sail in straight line most of the time but have abilities that no ship in random will ever have.

Alright, what about the second part? When it goes live? Why we don't have the information about the maximum tokens at play during the update? The minimum amount needed for achieving a specific prize etc.? It's not like you don't have that information and have to calculate it.

Well, you know bots... you can see them aiming at you even if you're in smoke, undetected. But they don't shoot until you get detected and then then need 0.1 seconds to drop a shell exactly at you. That's not what happened exactly but along those lines. He shot just when I was getting undetected. By the time the shells arrive I was undetected but deleted nevertheless. Doesn't say much about Trento, I agree. But it does say that it's quite vulnerable, especially against higher tiers. And as I pointed out the concealment of 14.5km for a T6 cruiser? I haven't seen anything that bad yet. P.S. Not sure what numbers you're looking at. I'm the "proud" owner of Montepasta nad Trento. Got them both during the previous event and don't plan on progressing down the line any time soon.

Don't you think that it would be nice to answer at least those basic things so that a player can know in advance what ship he will need and what to grind now, if necessary? What do you gain exactly by keeping it a mystery until it goes live. And even then you don't specify anything in terms of how many tokens exactly can be obtained, how many are needed etc.

Just got out of the battle. Co-op again, just to clarify. I did an amazing 3k DMG total in Trento. I actually laughed. So I'm shooting a DD and missing almost all shells (the concealment also sucks IMO), once he gets killed (by my team mate, not me) I pop up a smoke and I become undetected. Few seconds later... KABOOM! North Caroline wipes me like a piece of paper, 24k DMG in one salvo and probably because I got deleted, otherwise it would be more than that. I was broadside relative to her but I was counting on me being undetected and safe. Then our Gascone shoots at the enemy Trento and takes over 30k of her HP (I thought the bots always have A hull but seems like that mirror that as well in relation to the hull that a human counterpart has?)... I know it's T8 vs T6 and it would be tough to survive anyways but I just found it funny how both Trentos basically disappeared after one salvo. I was chipped by a DD and the wiped by NC and the enemy one was almost wiped by our Gascone and then finished 2 seconds later by someone close-by.

Hello there Kraken, long time no see... Just trying out Ranked season with cyka byat... (not premium, no economic flags used)

As I said, after the pasta containers I haven't touched the pasta ships. This morning I realized I have a Twitch mission (got it almost a week ago I presume) which requires me to obtain 5k baseXP with pasta ships in order to get 2 containers from the current update. So I gave them a spin (Montepasta and Trento) and boy... do they suck. Maybe then need more time invested, getting to know them and what not but in co-op (don't play random atm and I wouldn't dare taking the pasta ones there anyways) I consistently do significantly less damage than in any other cruiser or any ship for that matter. About half based on the matches from today... That means if I generally do around 50-60k in co-op with a T5-T6 cruisers (or any other ship), with pasta ships I almost always do 20-30k. It's not only lower DPM than I'm used to due to terrible reload and not so much power. It's everything. I feel like I'n handling BBs easier than these ships (in terms of maneuverability). Not sure why but it's like they turn fine but getting them to stop turning takes longer than I'd expect, especially for a cruiser. If I had to pass through a narrow channel I bet I'd collide with these pasta ships while I wouldn't have troubles passing with any other ship I currently own. I guess I'll give up as I don't see myself getting 5k baseXP with this pasta disasters. Maybe they are fine (I'd rather say acceptable but ok) for some but definitely not for me.

I used your link (with the 'Public Test' category) and I must say that I haven't seen a single season besides the current 'Autumn' one. I went back 2-3 years and I haven't seen any other 'Autumn season' but neither any other season (Summer, Winter, Fall) which keeps my confusion in place. In less than a month a winter will start. Are we going to get a 'Winter season' for PTS updates? Are we going to get another 30,000 doubloons which will last until the end of the 'Winter season'? Same for credits? What about ships? Are they gonna 'reset' at the end of the 'Autumn season'? Because for the last few updates seems like I kept many ships which I researched, with the same XP on them, the PTS even saved my setup (modules, flags, etc.) for certain ships. Am I going to lose all that when a new season starts? I am kinda new to the PTS but seems like most people don't know how it works and also it seems there is a serious lack of information when it comes to how PTS works. And I'm not talking about a specific PTS and 'Developers Bulletin' but in general, for each PTS, each season of PTS etc. @YabbaCoe

Changing the amount of players won't change anything. Doesn't matter if it was 8 vs 8 like before, 9 vs 9 like now or even 15 vs 15 as suggested above. No matter how many players are there, when the 'mercy rule' kicks in, the battle is over. Just remove that and all issues are solved. There is no one single reason justifying the 'mercy rule' when playing a co-op battle. It was added at the beginning as something present in every battle mode but seems like it was never thought through. So I guess it's time for the developers to pause a think and they will quickly realize how stupid the 'mercy rule' against bots is. @YabbaCoe

I experienced so many bugs this evening. (last 2 hours) Like the UI being bugged completely. After restarting the game and playing a battle with no issue, I was stuck in port. Able to turn the ship around but clicking anywhere would get me nowhere. I couldn't go into battle and I couldn't even close the game. I had to 'end task'. Not sure if WG was working on something but it was very very messy.

Thanks for the confirmation, it would be nice for the mission (#1) to disappear in the 2nd stage of the PTS 0.8.11 (for the ones that completed it) or not appear at all (for the ones still doing the main one which is #3) Is there any article regarding seasons and dates that I could check out? I've recently started participating in the PTSs (few patches ago) so I'm still trying to figure out why I have the ships I have and why am I missing ships from the live server, especially premium ones...

I haven't played them at all since the event where I got Montepasta and Trento. They are sitting in my port until they get properly buffed/improved. On the other hand, I did sink plenty of Italian cruisers, mostly with AP which seems deadly to them. Even with small caliber guns from some DDs or Smolensk.

My favorite is "The enemy are winning, let’s hope they do something stupid"

I don't have any of those ships so I guess I'm fine. Or am I?

The gifts were supposed to be given to new players only. They were given to everyone who claimed them in a specific time frame. Yeah, missing the bus isn't fun. I don't want the gifts to be taken away from the ppl that got on the bus. I just think it's unfair to the ones that are always around the bus stop but that time just had something else to do.

WG wants this thread to die and move on with the mess they did giving prizes to wrong players.

Of course they are. Even tho some ppl are complaining that he is making a mistake with classes which I find hilarious.