little_rowboat

First game in Farra 3k base Exp

Not good imo. A really good 3 ship division could carry to 85% longterm. If you add one more you get close to 100% given the fact that you won‘t get equal enemy divisions most of the games. This overall reduces the other sailors to supernumeraries and the gameplay to sealclubbing over all tiers. If that is the goal, then the idea is brilliant. If it‘s about challenging gameplay with more than 2 friends, there is CB already. You could also add the problem of MM creating balanced gameplay even more seldom under those circumstances..

Got to admit I also forget it from time to time. When you use some of the special camos you got and don't go back to harbour after a game, it might happen from time to time when it was the last of those camos. I almost always use special camos even on premium ships, because WG throws so many of them after you, that there are enough there to use even though it's mostly only a slight edge over the standard premium ones for free. Then it's mea culpa to my team and trying to make that not being a factor to the outcome.

To kite an enemy DD within a 0,4 km range to keep him open without being spotted yourself is pretty tough to handle and with all the other factors around (planespotting of cv and Radar) that gap in spotting range could almost be neglected. The only thing where it really matters is a gunfight and the first shot. Given that both captains could aim equally well, the first shot isn't a factor eihter, because tier 8 in comparable lines has already the gun edge over tier 7. Only choice is to play calm, make fast conclusions whether it's better to shoot back or turn away and don't confront them directly one on one unless you aren't sure you can outgun them due to higher hitrate or you got better cover by backing up ships in your team. But those considerations aren't against premium DDs of tier 8 only, they are mandatory for DD gameplay. Good luck and have fun

Climbing up the US DD tree - Nicholas Leaderboard worldwide in the books and shredded

It was a reply to the statement that this thread (blaming CVs for personal DD experiences) is still alive.. and that certainly has something to do with the human habit to rather complain about something than adapting to and deal with it. As I have no problem with that issue I can’t see where your advice is helpful to me

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Double CV game in low tier. If handled right vs average execution on CVs = ignorable on Nicholas 30 of the 40 gained flags are usefull either

mmmh.. watching some peoples balance between the numbers of games played and posts posted some might do more and less

done 550 Ironium so far without any missions or stuff like that. time 4 a break from space In the former meta probably more probable than in the actual meta due to multiple flooding and stuff. Only got one on two full hp CVs

Thanks for the subliminal compliment, but on the other hand you picked the only ship with less than 65% winrate to prove a not reliable affect on the outcome of a match. Overall it‘s around 70% solo on an average tier of 7,4 which implies the opposite. Sure WG can think about a hotfix to make playing DD much easier, but I doubt they will due to former mentioned assumptions. Plus you have to keep two things in mind: (1) Former CV gameplay had similar affection on DDs if done right. A Haku or Midway in the right hands could delete a DD no matter what. (2) If you do to DDs what had been done to CVs: making it much more easier to play for all, like reduce spotting or whatever the ideas are, you get the same result for DDs like the ones you are complaining about for CVs. It becomes easier for all and the ones that can handle them extraordinary well will result in complains about DDs are OP or something similar. I honestly don’t want to be in position of the balancing board of WG, because balancing has way too much to do with emotions than facts. besides: It’s just a game..

I find it fun either though most of the attacking teams haven't found out the easy way to win yet. Just had it 2 times so far where all focused and followed the "plan" to push, focus and kinda suicde attack trading one after another. Defending you got to take position and hope that enemy doesn't suicide push. As attacking team it's easy if all focus one target after another and are willing to trade oneself for the other target. This way you take them out easy over the time respawning 1 or 2 times and using the advantage the mode gave you. By playing like randoms or clan battles you cant win as attacking team if the defending team isn't totally dumb and heads out to attack and shortens the time the attacking team needs from respawn. You can't outplay the perma heal of the defending team this way.

That's neither what i wrote about nor what the discussion is about. It's falsified because during/after that CV rework there had been leaderboards broken worldwide on dds which means there had been efforts that haven't been before. That leaves no room for any complaints that meta is broken, DDs are broken or whatever. Simple conclusion is, that it's oneself if it's possible and that brings us back to self reflection and adeption. No doubt it's challenging, but that what playing is about. Playing for given wins is something for little kids playing with their parents. Again, read correctly what I wrote. I Assumed something based on observations. You were the one, that stated facts on numbers contrary to my assumption (" Looking at maplesyrup, it's obviously nonsense"). As I doubt your hypothesis, feel free to falsify my assumption and make your hypothesis a thesis, but like said keep in mind all those variables/events in your analysis. I honestly look forward to it, though I doubt there is some profound to come from what I read so far Gonna leave it here for now, bedtime due to being in office in 8 hours for some more seriuos things than falsifying fake news on DDs ;-)

Was an assumption like I wrote based (for example) on the fact that my Sims rating over the last 21 days rose from 5153 (locked in the leaderboard at the time I did play last) to 5158 actual shown in the profile Given the fact that the the original rating was based on a significant number of over 1 million games and moved significantly within a very short time compared to the time the database was accumulated, there had to be a significant number of new games with worse results. Feel free to show a significant decrease of games played with DDs relatively to to the time before CV rework, but keep in mind such variables as ranked season, fly, strike, win and space warships.. I'm looking forward to see your analysis. Well if one makes a hypothesis and it is falsified by results, the hypothesis simply is worthless.. "DD's are unplayable" and "Impossible to play with DDs after CV rework" are falsified by results.

As some of my DD personal ratings rise without me playing them, I assume there is no decrease of DD players out there.. plus one can make the conclusion that a possibly lower performance of players on DDs (due to lack of adaption) seems to be no reason for skipping playing DD So if that's true and WG see's it in their data there objectively seen is no reason to change the meta regarding DD's. Somehow confirms my personal experience regarding enemy CVs: tier 4 and 6 are no problem even if superunicum - no change in play in relation to former cv meta tier 8 is tough, but handable - even if superunicum, just adept your actions and gameplan tier 10 mostly handable unless you don't meet that handful of CV players that really know what they are doing - never had one opponent who wasn't handable or busy with other things due to my adeption - even on tier X games with 2 CVs I managed to cap 3 bases solo. If you take into consideration, that you meet a super unicum enemy CV that really can handle it's CV in less than 5 % of games, you will have to deal with more serious factors in the gameplay/teamplay in significant more games... So overall I doubt there objectively seen is a reason to change sth. for Wargaming and subjetively seen I suggest more self reflection and adaption instead of desperation and rumination of fake news that DDs are unplayable and broken. Though this for sure is the more challenging way to deal with this issue...

As some of my DD personal ratings rise without me playing them, I assume there is no decrease of DD players out there.. plus one can make the conclusion that a possibly lower performance of players on DDs (due to lack of adaption) seems to be no reason for skipping playing DD So if that's true and WG see's it in their data there objectively seen is no reason to change the meta regarding DD's. Somehow confirms my personal experience regarding enemy CVs: tier 4 and 6 are no problem even if superunicum - no change in play in relation to former cv meta tier 8 is tough, but handable - even if superunicum, just adept your actions and gameplan tier 10 mostly handable unless you don't meet that handful of CV players that really know what they are doing , e.g. @Maaseru or @El2aZeR - never had one opponent who wasn't handable or busy with other things due to my adeption - even on tier X games with 2 CVs I managed to cap 3 bases solo. If you take into consideration, that you meet a super unicum enemy CV that really can handle it's CV in less than 5 % of games, you will have to deal with more serious factors in the gameplay/teamplay in significant more games... So overall I doubt there objectively seen is a reason to change sth. for Wargaming and subjetively seen I suggest more self reflection and adaption instead of desperation and rumination of fake news that DDs are unplayable and broken. Though this for sure is the more challenging way to deal with this issue...

7minute - Kraken... my fastest ever as far as I can remember. 4 DDs were in it. Those 2 enemy CVs could be ignored in Nicholas. Activate def AA and collect some planes

double CV game tier X - still handable as an IJN DD .. 3 caps taken, 4 taken out, enemy CVs alive whole game

style advice: Color red suits you fine, please avoid green.

Bases are totally overrated it seems.. same number of ships left, 500 pts behind.. ignorance at it's finest

You are on a challenge to open more threads this week than winning games, aye?

Well, you can‘t play like you‘re not perma spotted, you got to adept a bit more, check where CVs focus is, check what the plane routes are, which one he might engage and where he‘s gonna fly along and avoid those routes if possible. If not, watch the planes and dodge whatever comes from above.. sure it takes some experience, but it is possible against 90% of enemy CVs to get out of being focused with low damage. Always have a plan ready when you get focused. Might be this type of play suits me well due to playing >1k high tier games (8-10) in IJN DDs without smoke on my other account, but one can learn that and playing against 2 CVs all time (which isn’t the case) is truely challenging but also pretty handable with results on new damage records and very high damage/kill/winrates. It is for sure a challenge but neither „DDs are dead“ nor „DDs are unplayable“ is true.

While your CV statements are right, the last sentence is senceless.. first it's a bit rude, because you don't know for which reason the game is played by everyone - fun, graphics, history, winning - are all equally reasonable reasons to play it, and that's fine. Not everybody is into squeezing the maximum performance out of ships. And second it's a bit short minded. If all the worse than you players got out, you are the the one you just wrote about.. besides: Most people take this game way too serious. It's only a game, there are several reasons to play it and who are we to judge people on their reasons to play it. The result should be some kind of enjoyment. It's overall balanced and every class and ship is playable (just for fun or competitive) - one only has to figure out how.

That would automatically mean, for the majority of the players DDs are actually dead? Which kinda makes it true really...  depends.. I assume it takes only longer to adept (within their abilities) for others. The ones being good and above are only able to adept faster within a single game and over the time. This game isn't about extraordinary physical abilities like professional sports.

Mate, you did well when we met lately. That makes me wonder why you write that, because it ain’t true for good and above players.