MadBadDave

Imagine you're in your Bismarck and another Red Bismarck approaches you at 11.2 km (secondary range), you think YESSS, a brawling contest, then a red Torp bomber arrives, how do you feel, and similarly if it was a green sqn, both deprive you and the other Bismarck of the fun and enjoyment. It is a warship game after all and all I want to do is fight other ships,not planes, there is another game for that WORLD OF WARPLANES. As well as everything mentioned, it's the hiding T8 cv that likes to target T6 BB's and DD etc, repeatedly and constantly coming after you, again taking your fun away, even when it's a lower Tier Cv they suck the life out of the game,lately a T6 Ark Royal constantly came after my T8 Alabama, which is one of the best AA Battleships in the game, I don't think he touched me once, he lost 49 planes and I do think he'd have continued to send planes had the game not ended, mean while I'm exchanging fire with another BB, and have a DD on my six, I have manual secondaries locked onto the DD, and mains on the other BB, with fighter and my AA on the suicidal CV's flies must say it was a lot of fun, NOT !. This Cv driver isn't the only one to keep coming back, to the detriment of their team and your enjoyment, Like all other non cv drivers hatred for Cv's; CV's are truly the bane of the game, not because of what they are or their nature but because of WG's shocking implementation.

Thanks, that's the only reason why i ask in order to get some sort of answer, because if a lot of people did notice a particular trend, maybe WG could do something about it, and that cursed bote sees better MM and consequently better results etc. If people are honest and it turns out that tech tree and Prems suffer the same MM fate, it is just down to bad luck. I can only go on my very limited and below average gameplay, and from my perspective my Tech Tree's seem to get better MM luck than the ones that cost money.

Do you have a cursed ship ?.

In fairness REALLY GOOD cv's do cap and follow the fleet around the map, but you have to admit they are in the minority, most rush to go behind the furthest island or into the furthest reaches of the map. And quite often when there are 4 carriers they usually have most of the kills and are usually the last ones left.

My questions is a very easy one, and within an hour we could have fair idea,of whether Prems are up-tiered or not. Do"YOU" have a ship that you always struggle to win in Is it often up-tiered Is it a premium ?. I'm just seeking wondering why it is My T8 bb Premium is constantly facing T10's, whilst my T8 tech tree doesn't, when WG claims to have resolved MM, and whether Prems are treated differently ?. In addition to my own experience and reading a lot of other people asking "why am I crap in this bote" I am curious, could it be just bad luck or something else ?.

No, just seeking answers and clarity, no one has yet stated otherwise; e.g that Prems are not up-tiered more than tech tree ships. Saying "no because WG says it's all fair and balanced", is not an answer, so when can I expect to face warspite in my Bama, 2 months time ?.

Deffo not Bias, prior to getting Bama and reading other peoples comments, of which there is a lot about "cursed" ships I thought Hood etc was just unlucky. And playing throughout different times of the day I haven't noticed any real difference MM wise, and you can always tell when good players are playing and when the spuds and weekenders have gone to bed, in a nut shell regardless of what time I play only the standard of player changes, not the MM !. You obviously didn't look at my stats e.g Tirp Vs Bis, Shiny vs Gne etc. Do you believe everything WG tells you, e.g 5 games 4 in T10, 1 in T9, so when will T6/T7/T8 games occur ?. Matchmaker is as balanced and efficient as the CV rework.

It's all been said already, there is no counter play to a hiding, non capping bote, that constantly send out streams of planes that dominate and commands the battle field, and because of WG's "we'll let some planes get thru and they can have at least 2 attack runs" attitude it really does tick everyone else off, the RAF sent a lot planes after Tirpitz and only Lanc's with Tall Boys got her in the end,in game T6 planes get thru her AA screen and drop bombs that do more damage than getting citadelled by a T10 BB. Spotting DD's etc, which the cv SHOULD only see, but not everyone else does, Cv's kill the game dead, these days only Russian Ships have anywhere near the amount of kills Cv's do, have 4 in one battle and if they are good you'll only have 4 ships left at the end,all Cv's hiding at each end of the map, they kill the game. Having played RTS and world of warplanes 2, I really enjoyed the RTS mode, it was more of a managerial type game, fighters could provide cap and spotting (mine were often over the forward element), and torp bombers could be devastating, criss crossing attacks, I've said it a million times, but all WG had to do to make CV's more appealing was increase sqn size (it WAS pathetic how many planes you got), and allow the player to pick their load out, I hated DB's so I'd have gone for fighter and Torp Bombers. Instead we still have a rework that isn't balanced, CV's still dominate the game, look at lower tiers, which because of the new research system has seen many pro's with 19 point skippers go into cv's and have fun against BB's with zero to very little AA. It's like ;what can we do to screw it up even more ?. Subs; ROFL. The answer buy A high tier paper premium Russian CV, for only £110 with lots of nice extra's ;-).

I’ve been saying ALL Russian ships are op, not just their BB’s, And I have no doubt their Cvs and Subs will be too, not bad for a Navy that hasn’t done anything of note since 1853. Russian BB’s are new so they won’t have the HISTORY of other BB’s I.e stats etc. Anyone who says BB’s are not OP is either Russian , WG Staff or have never faced one, Go head to head with a vlad, Lenin, Kremlin etc and see how you fair, I can easily knock off chunks off a Montana but a Kremlin ?. The very best BB of world war 2 was the Iowa class and they could still be used today, Montana is a super Iowa The Russian Navy was pants and has been for over 150 years, not op, balanced ??, ROFL.

I got the Alabama, it’s not as good as all the reviews would have you believe (compared to my other T8’s; Bismarck and Amagi), but it’s a great money maker/Capt builder , the AA is terrific, only got it yesterday and already broke my AA record, already taken 44k in one salvo off of a Monarch, and taken huge chunks off of other BB’s, Many say the Mass is better, but take its Secondaries away what do you have an inaccurate bigger BB with AA and turning that’s not as good as BAMA, I’ve now had many battles alongside Masses and have had to bale several out, I don’t understand the high citadel, and ease of knocking off huge chunks of HP, compare Bama to the Russian VLad, one real ship that fought, one that didnt exist and yet has better armour and accuracy, The only buff Bama needs is a slightly lower citadel. A good ship at T8, but doesn’t handle uptiering too well and less of a god if top tier like Bismarck and Tirpitz are.

The ark must be pants, I faced one earlier today in my Alabama, I shot down 47 of his planes, the guy just kept targeting me, I don’t think one attack got thru but he kept coming back, focussing all that effort onto one of the best AA BB’s is rather strange, but then it is the weekend.

The segment on the stream yesterday was very good, but in addition to other things (nerfing Kremlin and possibly buffing German BB’s), Italian cruisers, and subs etc isn’t in time Exeter was buffed with smoke given MM, and that the Brit lite cruisers been given smoke, given the still paper thin armour and increasingly accurate countermeasures for firing into smoke, I.e it is now quite often that you’ll see a cruiser sitting in smoke being citadelled.

Ships I’ve had / have ; Tirpitz, Bismarck, Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, Mahan and Sims, the 3 premiums all have worse Win Rates, and as previously mentioned my premiums seem to be up tiered more than the tech tree ships, Exeter often facing T7, Indy likewise often facing higher tiers, Warspite spends more time fighting T8 BB’s and CV’s than T4/5. Yes it’s another conspiracy theory but has anyone else noticed this, is it true (prems are judged to be elite ships and deemed appropriate for higher tiers), or is it just me ?

Luck of the draw I suppose, I think everybody who's played the game has seen this, I too had more luck with the Mahan than Sims, imho the Sims is the better bote, but it tends to lose more than win, and does lack the killer blow, it does feel muted. Hood is another example, I get great kills and pretty good damage numbers, it kills cruisers for fun, but my wr is very poor in it, and Gneisenau which is basically the same thing with Torps has a good win rate, and I'd had a Kraken in it within a week of getting her. Match making doesn't help though, especially T8 ships, some of mine seem to face equal or lower opposition as much as higher tiers, and yet other ships, notably Alabama, tend to face T10's, which means camping HE cruisers bravely hiding behind an island, Torp spamming DD's (Shimi & Benham etc), and Huge BB's and super cruisers that citadel her for fun, if WG actually got something right for a change and MM was set up properly, I have no doubt my Bama's WR would be a lot better. Having thought about this, it would seem primarily that it's my premiums that suffer as a result of poor MM, could WG have something in their MM system that increases the chance of premiums going into higher tier battles ??.

Is it me or have secondaries suddenly become impotent, they seem to do little to no damage, I just watched a Grobe vs Kfurst, both Brawlers and yet while the ships closed and passed each other (any closer they'd have rammed), and yet zero damage was done, before the sound rework everything seemed ok, now you can't tell it they're firing, when you could clearly do so before, both audio and visually, and now they seem not to do any damage, or is it just me

Wouldn't it be more fun/more realistic if it aimed for the superstructure

Tbh - I’ve been in 2 games alongside masses and wasn’t impressed, I bailed out one and lasted far longer than the other, yes that doesn’t say a lot but the mass didn’t seem to shine any brighter, The AA is awesome, and far better than on anything else I have. It’s also the first time I’ve caused so much damage with one salvo, I know they’ve recently raised the monarchs citadel but 44k off a T8 BB, is not bad. Any pointers for aiming; waterline, just below turrets ?, I'm still trying to work that one out, unlike my others BB's e.g Hood - top of hull, Amagi - waterline.

Congrats on getting a coupon beware it’ll be gone within 1 or 2 days, I supposedly was sent one (1 year of being with wows), I did not get the stated email advisory, WG didn’t give a hoot, and Mr Conway was cc’d, with zero action taken, I lost out.

Radar no longer the nightmare it was, when cvs were at their most OP, which is why DD’s almost vanished, stick to Tier 7 or lower if you want to see less, gearing has fantastic torps that can fire well beyond most of, if not all radar equipped ships.

Horrendous, ships firing their guns from other side of map now sound like they’re right next to you. Please revert or will it be like cv rework; still unresolved a year later ?.

Mahan is a good DD but it’s concealment kills it, I liked benson but couldn’t connect with it, because of the MM

Good bote better than Mahan, but dire torps, great AA and manoeuvrability

Gr8 advice, the problem is MM, while Kidd and Lo are great you’ll meet Gearings, Fletchers, Jutland, Daring, And Khabas etc, not to forget Shimi’s. I hated benson and fletcher for that reason but loved gearing (top tier). I love the fushun and gadjah Mada, but then they have better MM

OP or UP, put every russian ships I've mentioned together against other similar types (dd vs dd etc), can anyone name a nation that's as strong or stronger, not bad for a nation who's done sweet fa for the last 150 years. WG should drop the "it's all about the historical element", instead they should be say it's a cv dominated warship game with a few famous ships.

Donar misses my point ; The Donksoi is very accurate and given the stated fire chance it seems to start fires better than my KGV used to. Lenin, Vlad, Stalingrad. My point each; and every Russian Ships stands out in a very good way, despite being absent since 1853 the russian's have the most accurate ships with the best armour, e.g. my bismarck, a North Carolina and another vlad were all within 10km of a red vlad, and our salvo's bounced off. Just played another game, yet again the ship with the most kills, A Donskoi. The Stalingrad is a cruiser and yet it's HP is more than my fully modded Bismarck, which unlike the Russian's actually did something on the sea in the last 150 years.