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The CV's shall stay, it are the none CV players that leaves the game

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Fine and we all know that. The fact is we indeed are arguing against WG and their visions of CV's rework. The big point is; WG is lacking or absence in the whole conversation / debat. I never saw any answer from them yet here. Tey propably doesn't have any decent argumentations against the players community? It's actually something you can find also in the sector of Psychologie and what WG is probably using also; "You don't have to give any answers, let the 'patients' figure it out themselves'. I self doesn't agree with your answer because I can not accept that it would be for the less experienced CV players to have some results. If that would be the case then you would not delete the non-even numbers CV in the tech tree. That give players the option to learn the gamemechanics and the different opponents you are facing in the game as you upgrade your own vessel. But WG did it anyway. And that in combination with the MM that can uptier your game also. As tier 6 in a tier 8 matchmaking or as tier 8 in a tier 10 matchmaking. What doesn't make any sense at all. You also wrote in another respond that players could also stop playing this game if there not satisfied with the gamemechanics like they are now. And indeed players can do that. But that wouldn't make any sence for WG if they would been asked to agree with your option. They spend a huge amount on marketing for this game. I already used one of their own newsflashes as an example. But it's not with the CV's problems in mind that WG did it. It's just that they wish to attrack new players and let it come over like it is just competition. They where so smart to use the example's where no CV's are involved. I'm also a guy with 269 days premium left for the moment, so yes, I'm still in the game for the moment. And I've spend some decent time in it the last weeks , just for testing out any other class to see if there would be one that wouldn't have much influence from CV's. . I didn't find one . But I've payed for it in the thought that the game would continue like I was used for it in the past. But it didn't . I didn't had premium for around 5 months that I played the game at the start. But yes it could convince me at that moment to invest for 1 year premium . And 3 weeks later WG made a drastic change in the gamemechanics that I was also already a period absence of the game. Not to mention the premium ships I bought with the knowledge of the game before this huge change. You describe that it are only a small amount of players that complains ? Really ? And CV's are only for the moment in 'random' battle's. They come also to co-op, ranked, and scenario's. WG likes that , but the playerbase not at all. So ones implented over the other gameoptions, you shall see a higher amount of players that would stop playing. And stop playing is also stop paying. What do you really think ? That I shall buy again any DD in the game ? That I shall buy again 'premium' ? Too see how WG is ruin the game ? You tell me that I'm arguing against WG what I can not beat . I challenge you, with your posts that players has to quit the game because they are not happy with all the changes, convince WG for me that they would agree with you that players has to quit the game

So you finally agree that CV's doesn't have any counterattacks against them and that the other players can't use their skill to avoid an attack from a CV ? Because it are just these facts that upset the playerbase on general. No matter what they do, they simply can't counter in anyway a CV attack on them. Ship upgrade (AA build ) isn't sufficient, captains skills , not worthy to invest in AA upgrades , and using skills and experience in the game against other players (opponents) on general, is ruined by the actions of the CV's in the game. Yes you can kill planes with it, but it doesn't avoid serious attacks on you anyway Not to mention the concealment and smoke for DD players …. And we can go on with that list …. again ….. And WG self can't see it at all, for them all is fine, ….. pffff, they have already 6 months data … and they are still not able to see it. And even the players gamerecords here in this topic alone that provides the necessary data on what (negative) influence the CV has on the general gameplay.

You don't have to look far for evidence. There was a post already here that the best games he received where the ones that no CV was involved in that game. Everyone can ofcourse debat that but ….. There's some small evidence provided by WG self You've checked the latest news flashes out from WG ? They have a new with the title ; "best of 3" for DD, cruiser and BB. In each of these games, there's was not even a single CV involved in that game

This could be true, but when it goes further like it is now. More players play the CV's then within a few months they also end up in the tier 10 matches. And if you postforward the numbers in the lower tiers to the tier 10 games, then you end up with more then 1 CV also in these games. So a lot of tier 10 players now , doesn't give a damn anymore about the lower tiers. Till the, now lower tiers, CV's shall show up also in theire matches, like the tier 10 games, clanbattle's, ranked battle's, scenario battle's and even in the co-op battle's. Then you shall see a huge amount of players that gives a damm about what is going on. WG could , in their own words "restrict" CV's in certain games. It was in reallity not a restriction at all. They just had the lack of CV players. Just the same with the 'restriction of only one CV restriction in the tier 10 games. WG simply doesn't has the amount of CV players for it yet. But they shall come. And then the players shall give a damm about it. It's already written many times in the past; it's gonna be a totally 'nerf' for the CV class that almost none shall play them in the future, like in the old RTS style and then indeed none shall give a damm, or it shall be a class that's never gonna be able to be balanced with the other classes in the game.

From the moment WG would 'even' be able to 'balance' the game with CV's ? What most of us doubt already because they couldn't at the start on the metaservers of it. Even WG had already the knowledge of the problems they give in the game from the 'testers' and later on the 'testservers'. You forget that WG self had already more then 1 year intern, when only the empoyees of WG played them to see how it would go in the game. Then you had the 'testers' in enviroments where other players couldn't enter = "Work in progress". Then you had the specifique 'testrounds' with various players, hardcore CV players and regular other vessel players. Then you had the 'announcements' of the launch of the rework CV style , when even normally players react on it and described already what would causes game problems. Even the simply first stream, to show all the players the CV rework , created reactions on what game effects it would have. They weren't possitive at all. Then you had the launch of the rework CV on the meta servers. Immediattely reaction and different recorded gameplays on you tube and other channels how bad the rework is for the game. Then you had the different 'hotfixes'. Notabene the first one not even the full week later of the launch. And on top of that , you have already 3 new updates and the fourth one , 08.04, is also verry near. It's not just one ship they have to 'buff' or to 'nerf', it's a whole class. And when you look back to it from the start, that's Always been the case for the whole CV rework, and is still going on in the future. 08.04 is also one of them. Shall it solve the issue's with the CV's ? Many players doubt about it. So how much time WG shall still need to 'balance' things ? At some point now, yes players came to the conclusion , it's never gonna be able to balance it and it shall Always give problems. So in the longrun, when WG shall continue to 'balance' them, CV rework shall fail because none of the community shall play then perhaps only the verry high skilled players in it. Then WG failed openly with their whole rework , because their goal was just to attract more players with it. To give you another example, lower tiers can give you 2 to 3 CV players in each team. WG can't solve , was their explanation. But for the tier 10 games, only 1 CV allowed. How come they can do that only for the tier 10's and not for the rest ? Did you ever do the math ? When they lower tiers also grind the tier 10 CV's, then WG shall have to allowe them also in the game. So within 4 to 6 months from now, you also gonna have 2 or even more CV's in the tier 10 matches. Even WG declared it's maximum 1 CV in the highest tier

Players already given numerous ideas about the rework CV. They not did it here on this forum topic but also in other ones, they've pointed them out in several posts and also on the testervers. WG neglect them all. - constantly spotting is an issue; players came up with the idea to show it only on the minimap. Patch 08.04 announcements shows that WG didn't implement it, neither have any plans for it. - announcement for patch 08.04 WG is somehow working on the HE bomb, wider spread for example. For the DD players, it's not the HE bombs that causes the issue for them, it are the 'rockets'. WG neglect them all. For them, HE bombers need a rework. That CV players self point it out that would be even better against BB players, seems not to be an issue for WG. - announcement 08.04 gonna have a 30 to 45 seconds delay for the CV players to use their plaines. Many players and forumusers replied, that's not a solution, it's gonna be even better for the CV players cause some vessels shall already be near the cap or split up from their teammates, because they move for example faster. - current infinity planes; many players and forumusers suggested it to have a limit amount of plaines available in the game and not like now. WG neglected it because in the patch 08.04 announcements, not any single word about it. - Airplaines speed is an issue, because they can be from one side of the map almost in an instant to the other side of the map. WG neglected it. Only an announcements that the speedboast for the planes shall now have a general outcome for all of them. - AA against airattacks are an issue. Players suggested already to make it better. The side option for your AA to work isn't sufficient. AA sometimes work, and delete a whole air attack squadron, sometimes it does'nt do a thing at all. Airattacks still happens, even when the ship and captain of that vessel is totally AA maxed out. Gameplay self; - For DD's 'stealth ' is one of their strenght. It's all litterly in the water with the CV rework. Stealth doesn't excist anymore with the CV rework. - Players can not 'flank' their opponents in the game anymore. And I can go one and for example also repeat all my own posts alone about it so you could see that many players have given ideas for the rework CV and that even without the only option to have them totally out of the game. So to tell now that players and forumusers didn't give ideas is verry short of your side.

Sky isn't falling, it became cloudy Every surface ship looses strength during battle or game if you like. A CV gains strength during the game/battle , that's the difference. Your surface ship looses HP , looses AA guns and etcetera. A CV doesn' t loose anything at all . In the worst case scenario the CV can do only 2 attack runs on you with his squad at the end of the game ( planes regeneration restriction) then with the normally 3 at the start of the game; That's a huge differents in the game outcome you know.

Thats the difference with all the other treads on this forum. It's not only about the other surface ships that are 'whining / are cryers' but even the CV players self admitt that the rework is totally broken for all the other classes in the game. It's just for one side of the game (WarGaming) that nothing is happend drasticly or influenced the game . Sorry for WG employee Sub_Octavian, the whole CV rework is a totally fail for the game in general. You may count yourself totally responsible for it Sub_Octavian, I'm not gonna pay in any way your salary at WG for your work. WG could be verry personal with me, I may do the same and blame directly the person for it also ;) In the past , I did pay WG for their employees who designed the game and worked it all out. But not anymore. When I see how you take it in the wrong direction with it.

It can be for you personally fine, but not for all the rest and certanly not for the 'universal laws'. You play your game and have access to your account, but you don't have any clue what WG is doing to others 'after the screen'. ys I was able to mention for example to WG gamesupport and refering to the European laws . The only answer I had back from them was; "if you do that…. claim your customers rights ….. We ban you'. Why do you think I 'm so mad at WG ? Just because of this. Of course they never banned me, because they would be immediatelly in serious problems with it. But WG has a European Community Manager = Mr Conway. But he was never able to stop these actions from Gamesupport at all. You think they laugh with it ? WG and his colleges do, but not the rest of it. That answer was going immediattely to the authorities to help me against WG. And at the end, they shall hold MrConway responsible for it. If he represents the European WG community, then he must be the first one to respect the EU laws (and EU customers laws) also. But then you shall find MrConway verry short in it. MrConway did openly 2 mistakes on the forum. a) he showed / answered personall information from a player on the forum. He may never do that. b) He wrote me personally what I had to do, when I announced my gamebreak for 59 days. He wrote me I had to appoint another clanleader for my clan. I did, but I also stepped out of my own clan. He may never do that, because the rules tell you as clanleader may be absence for 60 days in the game, before WG would take any actions to appoint another clanleader because your absence for the clan. . So yes, I also payed 1.000 doubloons to be able to start a clan. And then you have the Gamecommunity manager that's gonna tell you what to do.... pffffff MrConway wrote me that message on the 4 march. I never asked him, he only wrote me because he saw my message on the forum. Afterwards with checking my rights, I discovered he may never do that. He doesn't has any rights for it and it only shows he's reading every post and react personally on it without respecting the posters rights neither the customers right. But he did. And that's how it came. WG thinks they can get away with anything, but somehow I shall able to stop them . In Europe you have 3 country's that has taxbenificials for company's; it's Ireland, Luxembourg and Cyprus. WG proclaims it's a russian company, with teams in Sint-Petersburg and Prague for example. But they never pay the russian taxes, then all of a sudden Europe, Cyprus, is fine for them. With the next European election and afterwards, they shall change the taxrules for these 3 country's. Then WG shall be the one on the side of the cryers. Because they shall find not any beneficial anymore of it. That shall hurt them. WG shall react on it. But then Europa shall not care, like WG never carred about players rights.

It seems you can have 30 replays of the game. Where can I find these records ? Or how can I install it ? I'm gonna use these records to send directly to WarGaming headquarters and to other entities to proove that the game isn't playable anymore with the new CV update. I'm a DD player and bought a lot of premium DD's also in the past. Other ships didn't intrest me much. So forummoderators, do your best and help players out here. You gonna need it to make sure that I didn't had to contact WarGaming directly for it ;)) WarGaming shall have seriously amount of questions to answer. And all the questions shall be send out in a way that they personally have to sign for it. If you have problems with it ? It's the way 'international laws' work. And so russian are you not at all. If you would , your headquarters would also be in Russia and not in Cyprus ;)

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Basicly, you should have your 150€ back. This is not my word only, it's backed up by 'universal customers laws'. But WG shall properly never do that. They shall refund you in 'doubloons', what is virtual game money for this game. For a company, that's a totally beneficial strategie for them. Because these 'doubloons' costs them nothing. They need 'fresh' money, it means for example your 150€. Some shall argue that the doubloons is the same value, but it ain't at all. Because with the 'doubloons' they can manipulate things with it in the game. Look at other treads in this forum. Someone spent for example 55.000 + doubloons for crates to have early acces to the russian BB line. He never had one single mission in the whole process of it. And that's the way a company like WG is recuping the money you had spent, but WG had some how to refund you. But when you have bought the 'premium crates ' with real money, yes you have all the required missions in it . WG need people like you that buy's premium ships and put money on the game. Ones that period is gonne, Then they shall change the game, not in your beneficial who bought these 4 carriers. Then all of a sudden they shall listen to the others, because after 8 months to 1 year, WG shalll have less revenu , just because the CV rework. I self never blame you for your spending 150€ for the carriers. I bought in the past also premium ships (mostly DD's) and I've spent money for a full year of premium and I have spent money to have the permanent camo's . But I 've stopped spending money, I never buy any premium ship anymore and I shall not refund my premium account when it's ended. No matter what they do to the CV's or the game from now on.

For WG it isn't an issue, they've told that already in the past. It's just the same we as DD players has. We also get constantly 'reported' because some cruiser or BB player is not happy when he's been attacked by the opponents. It's Always the DD's players fault. A loss in the game, DD's fault. Today I was not even 2 minutes in the game, one was already chatting that the rest of the team had to report me. Several times I"ve been reported in the past, even I was amongst the first 3 in points at the end of the game. That system is systematicly abused in the past already, not now with the new CV rework.

that's the way to do it of course, you can report players that misbehave in chat. I self never insult the CV players, it's not their fault, they play with what them is given. You have also the opposite, CV players that insults other players. Yesterday I had a game where the opponent CV player was 'streaming'. You've seen his tekst in the chatbox ? Totally harrasments and insults to other players in the game. It would be nice if you mention these actions also It's easy now to post such things, because you've blocked the players name, what you should also by the rules. But it makes also you can hide behind everything because it can be annyone of the other players in the game .

You can't have it all. That new DD performs, even she doesn't has the looks for it

It's not this year WG shall see the influence the CV's has on the players community, it's next year. This year is still so that many players would try the CV's out and buy premium CV's. WG likes all the posts from different CV players in this tread. They show their results and claims it's guaranteed, no matter if you are experienced CV player or not. And WG likes that, so that more players would buy the premium CV's. It's far most the best results you can have with them in the game. We don't see many other posts with the regular/silver CV's. I still can have as DD player, good games even with CV included, but I can have the worst games also, just because of the CV's in the game. That is also for the other none CV classes. But that's not the point in the long run, it's the experience and the funfactor you have in the game. And that is gonne with the new CV rework. It's not for the fun I play the other classes. It's to try to be able to counter the CV's in the game. But I must admit, it isn't possible, no matter in what none CV class you play. Before you had to put effort to know your ship, play with it , try different tactics to have good results in the game. Ones you had found that, you enjoied the game, because you could perform in it. Now with the CV rework it's all gone. Its not up to you anymore or your skills, it's just the result of being focused by a CV player or not. That makes the outcome of the game now. So in the long run, yes CV's has a bad / negative influence on the game. Because all the rest can't find a decent way to go around them. But for the moment , we are all still trying. We are mostly trying to find a way to counter them. With the result that in a few months, most of us shall be so bored of the game, that we don't play it anymore. Even no matter with what WG is coming up with as a solution for the problem. And for WG it shall result in less revenu, so then they shall launch another game, to try to hook up the players again. This game is already payed in the past. That's also the reason why they did such drastic changes. They could afford it. You can find under my name the symbol for DD accomplisment in the game. Since the CV rework and so focussed by the CV's I dropped back in average points so badly that I for the moment not even have enough points for that symbol. I could never have it when I look at my average scores on the last 100 games. Even I was verry close for the other one before the CV rework. Too give an example as comparrising. All the DD players had games where they where performing well and all of a sudden it end because you get 'detonated'. Mostly it was "damm, I was doing so well at that moment". So next time you tried to avoid it and make sure you had your "Juliet Charlie Flag " on so in the future 'detonation' wouldn't disturb your gameplay anymore. Well with the CV's it's like you put your flag on but get 'detonated' anyway. It means, you did your part in the game, but at the end it doesn't mattered. You are dead / out anyway.

What surprised me most, is that the players that plays them and have the highest results with , they self admit their's something wrong with the CV rework. Even the players have the 'skills', have even 'unicum' status, they are still honoust about the CV's in the game. What I don't understand that WG self doesn't know it or pretend they doesn't know it. It seems they worked 1 year on the rework, and had a few months 'testserver' and after the first week on the Meta, they had already to do a "hotfix". Several others followed and still it isn't final. Even now with the announcemnt of 08.04 and the plans they have with it; Players like you AndyHill and like El2Azer , like Love & Peace,Europizza and some others can immediatelly point out what the result would be. Even just the description of it it is enough and these players knows exactly what the result would be in the game. I don't understand that WG team self can never figure it out what the effects would be. It's like WG is self never able to see the results / effects on the game self with all their updates. It's like, we have done something, and now players, show us what we did wrong so we can try to fix it. But we are not in a hurry to fix anything, but that's our policy I self play recently also the CV's now, policy of mine is; " if you can't beat them, join them " It's like you have no other choice, so I followed. And I shall see what it gives in the future. With the CV you can upset all the other "skilled" players, just to be there in the game; You self as CV doesn't has to be good, your presents is enough to upset and turn around all the other skilled players in the game.

Well WG isn't blind and they know exactly what is going on. The issue for them is not our complains, the issue for them is they can get away with it. I never played WoT, but it seems they did the same over there and many players left (quit playing and paying for it) that game , but most of them ended up here on WoW. So for WG it wasn't a big issue, they had the losses from WoT compensated by the gaines of WoW. The issue about the game self here now , WG knew from the start at the testservers and later on the metaservers from the start. Even at the testservers, all the testers informed WG that it would be totally harrasments from the CV's and that many ships , not the DD's alone would suffer a lot and not able to counterattack the CV's. You need something big to make sure that WG can not do that anymore and not get away again with it. And I'm pretty sure with the help of lawyers and the European commision and parlement we gonna be able to bring WG on their knees. I give 2 example's that worked also in the past and against company's that are much bigger then WG, it was against Facebook. In these 2 cases , the company lost and had to change. It created also a snowball effect, Facebook had to pay a lot to the European Gouvernement, because all of a sudden they found also other issue's. And all the Facebookusers also agreed with the policy and agreements of that company at the start. But it wasn't a free ride for Facebook at the end. We gonna have the same issue over here in WarGaming. You never thought that the person from Switserland never had the issue and the remarks he would never be able to achieve against the big company Facebook is ? He did, but he was willing to go for it and achieved it also at the end. The second one is also the same at the start. But she achieved it also, that was in the Netherlands. For me is, I'm a DD player and like I told in the past, I also bought different premium DD's. All know for their stealth. It was my choice. But when WG is changing the gamemechanics so drasticly that 'stealth' isn't a value anymore with the CV rework, then it becomes a customers issue. WG is on purpose misleading players/customers. Today I had a game where I was sailing just beside ( 20 meters) an AA cruiser of my team. That Midway CV player wrecked me anyway. I couldn't do anything and that AA cruiser was not able to help me, even he was fully AA upgraded. I self never blame the CV players, they play with what them is given. But everybody knows it is destroying the fun and the game for everyone else. DD's suffer the most yes, but all the other ships have the same problems with it. WG never accepted the impact that the CV's would have on the game. It's not that WG doesn't know it. It's just they can't solve it anymore, because then they are back to before the rework. None shall play the CV's. From the moment they start to change the CV rework again in the benefit of the other players, most of the current CV players shall stop playing CV's. So then WG is back off to zero. It's nice that Yamato942 is honoust about his feelings he had with the game. But it's not something WG didn't knew. It's almost 4 months now the CV rework is here. A lot of hotfix and other upgrades never changed the impact the CV's has on the game. And the rest of the players are stucked with it. And WG is laughing at the end. Probably the laugh with all our remarks. We payed them somehow in anyway so they don't care , they already have our money that I spend on the premium DD's for their 'stealth' But I self personally, I'm willing to take the step to go against WG at legal and courtrooms route. And I'm pretty sure, they shall have to bow. It shall take some time, but yeah, I can have it. The last courtroom in the Netherlands against Facebook, such a big company. 2 weeks the time Facebook had, to make sure it would never be able to happen again. 2 weeks, not only to solve the issue, but also to make sure it would never be able to happen again. I may find the first WG employee that can explain that DD's are good ships about 'stealth' with CV's in the game. None shall ever be able to explain in a courtroom that DD's are good when CV's are also in the game. And the few AA strength a DD has in the game. WG can only advice to 'turn it off'. Then why a DD should even have any AA ? If your only solution for the problem is; "turn it off". By the first upgrade, you asked the players too continue playing, it would help WG to collect data. Even we had already the same issue's we have still today. With the time of the testservers, WG already had 6 months the time, to collect the data and to solve the issue. How much time WG need more ? You really think you can have "eternity" to solve the issue for the 'none CV players' ? It's not only that the CV's can do in the game, it's also that the other players can't counter them. The AA and automatic reaction of it isn't enough. To make it verry 'blunt' if a CV player can take any ship out within the first 3 minutes gameplay, why can't the rest of the team can't take the CV out in the first 3 minutes of the game ? YOu wish Always 'constructive' answers. Well mine is, give all the players a 'nuke' button that every player can 'nuke' the CV out of the game in the first 2 - 3 minutes of the game.

certanly not thiextar. How many time you changed your opinion on the forum ? With 1.029 posts of yourself ofcourse hard to tell. shall I summ them up for you ? I can even quote you directly in the other topic; CV rework. There you admit DD players has no chance at all anymore. Your words. ;) I'm pretty sure I shall have my gramm with WarGaming. And then of course you shall show up to proclaim you all proclaimed it in advance ;) I go to courtroom, shall I see you their thiextar ? of shall you hide like usual. I've played a lot of games today. You really think that WarGaming shall not check my account out ? Sure they shall do. And they also know that I indeed can claim and proove my point about DD player versus CV player. I shall give you this already in advance. They shall give me right in courtroom that I even for today had numerous games where a DD player can not fight against a CV player in an equal match. But they shall claim in courtroom they are working on it. You really thought that forummoderators shall let these message pass without informing WarGaming self ? They all know , they can not stop me, they don't have any controll about the letters I send out to WarGaming CEO and board. They can never forbit it neither. So the only option they have is to check my account and make sure they have an answer on how many times I played, when I played and what my results where. The letter to the chairman of the board is officially recorded by the company. It's in every company so. It's an obligation. WarGaming knows they can not pretend nothing happend. The only option they have is to respond to it. They shall do, but not do it here. They upsetted the whole playerscommunity with their CV rework, I shall be able to upset their whole company ;) And I don't need you at all for it Tiextar. Something different already with you, you need others already for your first reaction against me on this tread here ;) And you dare to call me a troll ? you have 1.029 posts and 3.130 battle's. I have 74 posts and 8.200 battle's. I think I have the right to speak here on the forum about my experience in the game. I've placed here under one of your latest example's. If you wish more Thiextar ? Let me know, I'm glad to put them all together for you :)) You see your own post ? Only 10 hours differents between your 2 posts and what a heck a difference of oppinions you have already. :s Let me ask you one question Thiextar. Can you tell me what Mr Conway wrote to me at the date of the 4th march ? It's Mr Conway, forummoderator and staff of WarGaming. Can you tell me Thiextar ? If not, shouldn't you keep your mouth also closed for the rest of the conversation ? Because thiextar, you are mis informed. You have to look up what I wrote and why Mr Conway wrote me that message ;) You spend more time on the forum then in the game in comparising with me, so you can find it out I hope . And to help you out, I did even much more then what Mr Conway wrote to me. He wasn't happy with it afterwards and my clan neither. But the result is, Mr Conway has a problem, he wrote me what I had to do, but I simply went a little bit further then he had in mind. MrConway can never resolve it anymore. But I did what he wrote me. The board of WarGaming never knew it. Ones they know, they shall admit, MrConway may never done that. And the board of WarGaming shall propose to resolve it. So why Thiextar you don't contact MrConway and ask him about the message he wrote me at the date of the 4 march ? Tell me again I am a troll. Because when you know the truth, you shall be the one that shall keep your mouth closed when you don't know the facts at all. You know Thiextar, I tell you you don't know anything at all and only post to post on a public forum. I know that every message I wrote on this forum , what is a public forum shall be used AGAINST me by WarGaming in a courtroom and from the moment WarGaming can they shall use it also. . Because it's a public forum. But I'm not afraid of it, because it can pass every courtroom check at all. I doubt if you can go that far with all your posts. So contact MrConway and ask him about the message from the 4 march and let us all know what his answer was to you :) [-AP-] thiextar Midshipman Players 1,029 posts 3,130 battles Report post #2330 Posted 10 hours ago Yeah, they need to be each others biggest counter, that way they actually contribute to the match rather than just being annoying.

not if you direct your letter to the CEO or responsible of that company. He/she self has to sign, no matter what responsible's they have for it. You just have to know how it works ;) In my country it is called RP, you direct your letter to the company, you RP the CEO of it and he/she only can sign it off ;)) If the CEO that I would for example RP on my letter review, not sign off, but let it do to another employee, even it would be the company policy, he/she simply doesn't receive the letter at all. That's what RP is for, (in my country it's called RP) . You have to pay extra for it yes, but it works that way ;) The person has to proove with his/her identity card that he/she is really that person. Otherwise they doesn't receive the letter . And I can tell you even more. If the post office doesn't know who's really in charge of that company, that person has not only to proove it with his/her identity card but also with the company's coorperation act , that prooves he/she can act on behave of the company. I shall make it verry clear for you. Wargaming proclaims it's a russian company. But the headquarters are in Cyprus, what is clearly not russian yet. So, the company HQ is really there and then there's no problem for the letter I send out. Because he/she shall sign it off. Probably it's used for tax savings heaven. So then it's a postmail adress only and not really HQ. Backed up by a lawyer company that has the mandatory to do all the actions in the name of the company. To know the difference, you send your letter RP , even the lawyer company that has the mandatory, can not accept the letter without the clausule they self are full responsible for it. Not any lawyer company does that. So the man / woman of WarGaming has to sign it self . I self doesn't even have to know the name of the CEO, I only have to direct my letter to the CEO from WarGaming as RP. And I can do the same to the 'chairman of the board'. I don't have to know his/her name, I've only have to adress my letter RP to it and only the 'chairman of the board' can sign it off. The chairman of the board is mostly not the same person as CEO. But the difference is, the CEO can pretend he /she didn' t received anything for the board as long I don't take any other actions. When you contact the 'chairman of the board ' directly, they have to officially record it in the notules, they've received the letter and the letter self must also be kept in the company records. If you also wish to know the reason why I don't have to know the names ? Because they have 2 weeks the time to sign for that letter. In that time the CEO or chairman of the board can change without my knowledge between sending and the time they have to sign it off. That's why you have to send it to the 'chairman of the board' as RP or CEO as RP, then it doesn't matter who it is between these 2 weeks. And do you understand now also why a lawyer company , even they have the full mandatory for the actions of the company , can not sign the letter ? Because they are not the CEO or the Chairman of the board ;) They are only the representatives in a courtroom, not in real live. Never shall a lawyer company take full responsibility for a company itself, they shall only represent them but are self never responsible for the actions of the company . .

it wasn't an answer on my question. I can proove with many others the game isn't playable anymore. That's also a reason we don't log in daily anymore . and I can also give you example's that i have as DD player more then 100K damage. But even multiply more games that I can not even launch my torps because taken out by CV's. And the discussion is not between me and you. It"s between me and WarGaming. And I have even much more international support then you have friends and ally's ;)) too many WG or subcontracters of WG that play's the game and shall Always tell here that all is fine . While all the other 99% that pays the bills for WG and their subcontractors experience totally the opposite of the game . I can assure you, WG shall not like that they have to walk every day now to their post office to sign for every letter and no matter what the content of that letter is. But they have to do it every day from now on :) And they can do nothing about it. These are the rules they agreed with when they launched the game international :P I have recently , from this evening, with my Shima. I could avoid 6 attack attempts from a CV player, but finally I was take out by that CV player. There's something totally wrong, when WG can only give the advice to turn of your AA defence as DD player as an answer to avoid Airattacks. I had turned it off, at the start, but I needed it verry badly because the CV keeps attacking me. Tell me what we as DD players has to do when you are under constantly attack from a CV ? Go AFK ? What can we do ? use forward, left, backward, right ? Shall that help to keep a CV attack away ? turn the O button and choose a side ? it takes 10 seconds if you wish to change sides. Does that help ? No , not at all. I've payed with real money for the premium DD's I have and for the silver DD's I played many games for it. But now they all turned completely worthless. I have nothing on their 'stealth'. I even have almost any captain also with the 'stealth' skill. It's completely worthless.

Fine for Flamy he would bring it up at the next CC meeting next month. But it shall not help at all. You need other ways for it, and that is WarGaming headquarters directly. It cost you money but you skipp all the rest in between you and WarGaming. You have to write them directly and in such a way that WarGaming has to sign for every letter they receive or that you have send out. For every letter WarGaming doesn't sign personally, they don't receive neither. And that gives you every right later on because WarGaming can never ask that you have to reveil the content of the letter, not even in a courtroom. Because you have payed extra to send that letter and they could receive it, they just had to sign for it. If they don't do, they don't have any right later anymore about it. Tomorrow I send a letter to WarGaming directly and I skipp all the ones in between like gamesupport, forummoderators, gamedeveloppers everyone in between. It's gonna cost me about 10 €. The same amount WarGaming is asking for a permanent camo for a silvership. And if I can make it we are with 100 or even 1.000 individuals who does it, then WarGaming may spent the whole day at the post office to sign every letter individual Probably WarGaming shall all of a sudden proclaim it's "ANNOYING". Who cares, they didn't hesitate to make our gameplay totally "annoying" with their CV rework. What do I have on all the bought premium and silver DD's and upgrade them to have the lowest detection range ? When WarGaming is all of a sudden design a gameelement that iin maximum the first minute of the 20 minute playround I'm detected and the whole map can shoot at me for the next time of my playtime. What do I have when I bought premium account for 1 year and you design then the game in such a way that I don't even log in everyday anymore but more ones a week or even 2 weeks.? I can't have any benefit of it anymore because WarGaming made the game such annoying that I and and many others simply doesn't log in daily anymore , but more one's a week, ones every 2 weeks. You had your money in advance of the whole year, ' I have the "annoying stuff " for the rest of the year.' I didn't payed for that.