Wolffireman

I find i hard to rank as a Hipper, every game there is a lot of BBs. What to do? (Yes, i know Hipper got buffed, still we die to a breeze in the wind, when there are 5/7 BBs.)

Dont buy this crap. Yes, im a relatively newcommer, but seriously im loosing more than ever buying a "premium" piece of crap. [edited]yawn WoW. 0/10

A lot of AFK'ers at rank 14. I just dont understand it.

Thanks for all the advice. Graf is a decent ship, with way too low cd on main guns, it can do a lot special things, but its a lousy lever and grinder. It just doesnt do a lot dmg, unless that one special brawl moment, when you are that special purple unicorn. Never ever buy this ship, when ur new. Its not rocket science.

alright, cheers

thanks Reckless and Oddy

Sure, but this is exactly the answer i was looking for. So on average, what should i grind for at tier 2-4? All the ships at those tiers, and the flags, camo, gear, captains etc.?

Sorry for asking then...

My point is, sure Graf Spee may be an excellent ship for uber hardcores, but it wont be for the noobs, until they played 10.000 games. And in 10.000 games, the newcommers are very well better off played free-to-play ships. I feel fucked over, is that too hard to understand?

Okay mr. hardcore. Its a simple question, why are premium cast paid ships actually a downgrade compared to free ships, if you are relatively a newcommer? Why is this purely a game for hardcores, that understand everthing instantly, and zero chance for players that have a relatively normal learning curve? Why am i loosing non stop, the second i paid? When i wasnt before,not paying? Yes i can store my paid ship, and go back to non-paid ships, but why did make paid ships then? Why cant we have some middle ground games? And not only uber hardcore, piss off your new gamers?

Wow, once again, new players aint allowed.

Yeah yeah, so why im paying for a ship?

He had free shooting gallery there.

Frankly St. Louis does better at anything. More guns, more damage.

Yeah you are totally on spot, yet buying a ship just aint worth it as a noob. Fine, yet paying some cash to a game, would normally yield a relatively small upgrade, not a freaking lame downgrade. And yes i realize skill cap would increase my chance of yielding a paid vehicle. But cmon it shouldnt be a downgrade from scratch. Just lame game development tbh. Its a good game, yet paying made me want to quit even more.

Erm yes i did grind upto tier 5 as a noob. I dont see ur point? Graf is tier 6. There is no entry level, just grabbing your cash.

Very excellent advice, indeed. However im sick and tired of loosing on graf spee, and i regret spending money on ships, when free to grind ships yield way better results. Boogles my mind, why im paying for crap.

No my serious question is, is there a role for undergunned quasi battleships cruisers like Graf Spee? lal no way, team is dead, by the time, Graf has hung back.....

Fine, im a potato now, and im a potato after 1000 games. Even more makes my whining valid. There is no entry, just the hardcore living.

Ok, my only point is i wanted to buy a fairly simple and agile beginner ship. But after reading all the guides and watching all the vids, theres simply isnt one. Maybe Alabama, but i suck at battleships too. There is no entry level at all, is what im saying. Just grind.

Yeah yeah but whats the point of being a fake battleship, when all it does is getting me in the wrong range of the enemy battleships?

Fine, i need to grind. But thousands of games, before i have a fair chance?

"(Not including the other stats, but if your Dresden has twice the average damage of your Graf Spee, than there is something wrong with your playstyle.)" Totally agree, Dresden rocks. But man at lower ranks, wins comes way too easy, to suck us in.

Yes Graf Spee has a lot of health, and health potions, which is quite good, but it wouldnt make any difference whether i went afk or not, whether team won or not.

And let me ask this simple question, why does Graf Spee at 140 dkr. have 2 torpedo tubes? Kinda useless for a semi battleship, no?