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I’m not expecting the Smolensk in Santa crates. So far we have never had a tier 10 in one.

I’ve always liked the Svetlana. It’s basically a better Krasny at tier 4, great ship for ambushing Clubsons!

Would be good if you could exchange the coal price for the flint and black and get your steel back. Unfortunately their plan to wait 6 months makes me think this isn’t what they’ll be doing.

I’m not sure he was serious...

Correct of course. Slipped my mind.

Thunderers advantage is long range accuracy and 30mm overmatch. It wouldn’t beat a Conkek in a dpm battle while both are angled. With the heal taken into account I don’t think any ship could.

Thanks guys. That’s very nice, same as Republique. Tempted to push the button and buy now!

What’s different about their secondaries?

We are talking about the British cruisers 234mm shells they have 1/4 pen and penetrate 58mm without IFHE. You are correct that IFHE Henri is the build to have, indeed mine has it. I think the confusion might be because the British 203mm have the normal 1/6 pen. That changes at tier 9.

Why would it help against Moskva or Stalingrad? It can penetrate their plating with IFHE and without. It cannot penetrate the citadel either way.

The 234mm have 58mm of pen by default. IFHE will only help with GK bow sections and Russian battleships. Not really worth it.

I would say the accuracy increase makes the Thunderer a better long range HE spammer but, as others have said, the AP Is the ammo of choice in most situations. The Thunderer can brawl but it’s probably best at 14km or more where you can use that rudder shift to angle in between salvos.

4km from a broadside Kremlin in the Kurfürst and not one citadel. Kremlin lacks the weakness of the other Russians.

Oh yes I’d love to be able to drop 13k salvos on an angled battleship more often then every 20 seconds! High tier Italian cruisers are very strong

It couldn’t be a historical fix though!

I use terrain, with the GK you don’t want to be 16km away!

My GK already has 15.9km concealment. I’ll be taking the module. You are correct though that I wouldn’t do it in most ships. It will be interesting how many do take the module over concealment. You make a lot of good points but I have to point out that both the torpedo module and Concealment inhabit the 5th slot.

Now I know what I’ll be getting in my next batch of Christmas crates. 9 ships in 3 designs... yay.

1 knot is plenty for this new Torpedo avoidance system?? I am truly amazed that Wargaming are pushing through a change that will completely negate a supposed advantage these torpedoes. With this 1 knot buff combined with the detection range ships will have more than double the reaction time. I play battleships more than DW torpedo armed ships so I supposed I should be happy about this but I do hate when destroyers are nerfed as they do still seem to be the weakest class.

What were the rest of your team doing? crashing into each other on the A line?

I didn't see this before. I suppose I could use my Montana captain for a different feel. I'm very cautious with those stats as these reward ships tend to only be in the hands of good players. I'm at 60,000 Rp so I might wait till next season to decide to get the extra points but also to wait and see where the Halland and Marceau are sold!

The 32mm overmatch is still very strong. Buy Thunderer and grind Yamato.

It seems clear that all the German super cruisers should have 50mm plating in their lower bow. They surely cannot have worse armour than the Hipper! add to that a rate of fire buff. Should be 22 seconds. At tier 9 380mm is not much better when it comes to overmatch then 300mm. If theplaying changes go ahead it will be light cruisers bow and stern that 300mm can’t pen but 380mm can. Its just not worth the lack of dpm compared to the Alaska. Hope they try it as the Odin and Agir seem just to similar..

I don't play destroyer much but I do hate seeing one being attacked so quickly and with no means of defence being available to them. Even if it happens within 6km of my Des moines T8 CV can still get one hit off taking many thousands of damage. Of course during this time the DD is spotted probably while trying to position so it has 4 or 5 ships also firing at him! Something needs to be done about this, CVs used to be the bane of battleships but the addition of rocket planes makes DDs so vulnerable

I was pointing about the disparity between gun effectiveness in game and In real life (historically). This ship would probably be effective in game but as you say, in real life it would not be.