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I found an alternative method though, used the "United States" to kill off all the enemy supershits (including their "Eagle"). Fun and engaging... LMAO. Net result though, got +4 karma while playing CV...

I have 300 million credits... and I'm not even that good. Also, with a super-CV it is possible to do 200K while asleep (well, the UK one might be a bit harder... as usual). Now how that is gonna be any fun at all for the hapless victims is beyond me. So easy it is just... boring, really. It is not even funny to do it more than once a month, just for Lulz Griefing. I guess my choice is: back to T6.

That is not really the problem. The problem is they can DENY HITS easier and more reliably than DDs. Because not only do they have a "4 minute smokescreen", but it is never on cooldown - instead it runs out. Also it protects them from most ammo... while still allowing some amount of spotting. How about having a DD that has a 4 minute insta-smoke, and can turn it on/off at will if he has any smoke-time left, and then giving him the ability to spot (and send -guided- torps) anyway when he is at the edge of his smoke?

What's the use then to give any answer at all? You'll probably never understand, as you refuse to - but being able to play ANY class well serves your team. Because if you(r) team do(es) not, the other team certainly will. And since they are broken, they'll kick your butt. Your resistance against CVs is futile - they are here to stay. You'll just disadvantage your team if you'll not adapt. I'll join you screaming at WeeGee they need to do better than the pile they produced. But I'll play the pile anyway - because I know if I do not adapt, I'll not be able to help my team. DD players, certainly those that can just stealth fire torps, are always certain they are the most skilled persons in the game. However I find that it is really easy and almost stupid to stay out of spotting range of a fat BB, he can never spot you or catch up to you. Then torping him to death is just broken, too. At least DDs that have to shoot run a risk, since they get spotted. Some of those "stealthy" DDs even have a smoke screen to get out of trouble if they were stupid enough to get spotted by that BB anyway. Same as CVs, you can play them and be untouchable all match if you're any good. Balhblahblah, DD babbies, BB babbies, and everything babbies. But, you are right. I stopped caring about CV-haters opinions. They are not interested in making them more balanced, all they want is "CV gone". And since that is not gonna happen, they (this means, you too) are simply useless for any discussion at all. Next up, here comes "so why don't you try yourself". You'll find it is harder than it looks. To be any good that is. Yeah sure you can whack a few moles, but that is same as a noob in asashio. He'll get one BB, for sure. Since I am playing DDs even if I suck (to get a better idea of how to most effectively counter them), I know that. Maybe you should play some CV - to get an idea how to AT LEAST try to make their life as miserable as possible?

Today my clan saw @AdmiralYonus in Clan Battle... sorry mate... that Conq of mine shoots AP... Trick is nobody expects it. Also, we FFd it up and put ourselves on the Russian server. Did not expect to meet an EU clan... Must have been our night.... 5 wins, one loss, 5 wins... And yeah we were trolling the enemy with comments about pianos and wieners....

I don't think our team had a plan.... except for most BBs to hide behind rocks, and let the cruisers "tank". Which obviously didn't really work out that well. I almost gunned down that Shimakaze though. I even saw somebody shoot him when I spotted him (turned out that was my divvy). The fact that I got halfway with about 75% damage to a Shima probably says it all...

Well since they do still spout such nonsense - that is why I do not care about other players much anymore, just like an Asashio player (or any stealth torp DD) doesn't give a damn about the enjoyment of slow BB players. Neither do 70% divisions, after all this is a game where nobody tries to pick a fair fight.

That is because he is actually good at determining where he can do the most damage, as well as the best tactical damage. He is able to do that in other ships as he has plenty GitGud. But he can do it even faster and better in a CV. The WR difference between CV and everything else gets larger as you get better. Sure I can farm a Currywurst just as well (OK maybe a little bit less) as he can do it. But the difference is, I will farm that Currywurst, while being oblivious to the DD that threatens our whole flank. So, what he will do is kill that DD, and then farm the Currywurst, and win the game while mine might be a loss. Also, his game might last longer so he will still farm the whole Currywurst anyway. And a player that is worse than me may get his behind torped by that DD. OK maybe me as well... FACT: He doesn't like the rework though even if you might think that. Most CV players will tell you exactly what is wrong with it (and most will tell you how it can be fixed). ANOTHER FACT is, WeeGee "gave" us the fun-police-pill so either you bite it and chew or you'll get it shoved up your.... anyway.

I agree. If my team just lived long enough I could kill just about the whole team in the time before a CB game ended. Actually I didn't really have too, all I had to do is make sure I killed more than the enemy could. You do not even need to be very good... just that much better than the enemy CV. IF THEY HAD ONE. The only difference between me and somebody like you or El2azer against an average team, is that your team will not exactly be average, most likely. As such, you have an even easier job. With me in CV we ran the risk of meeting an actual quite good team - them having a CV or not. In which case I could not keep up the attrition. Unless their CV player was crap... but if they were good... ...what would happen is my teammates got killed too fast, just me in CV left and they'd have 1-2-3 caps and 3 ships. In the T6+CV Clan Battles we had quite a win streak (as everybody got a CV). The later one, where you could also choose 2xBB were even more troll (because I picked Ise...). BTW there is nothing more awful than meeting a div-player who plays BBs and CV in Ise...

I always thought that Cap was speaking Russian.

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Ok then indeed it would (have been) possible to get zero percent. However the odds getting 100 will be very, very small.

Ah yes, the "normal binomial distribution". We all know there have to be some players that have 90% WR. There must be even one that has 99%, but the further up, the chances get slimmer. But that is with total random performance. Now imagine the other end. COULD ANYONE do so bad as to have a ZERO percent WR? As in, not get carried, not even once, even if actively sabotaging the whole match?

Silliwangi...

Actually there is, the sound of GitGud - it hasn't reached the other 11 teammates. He is right, ya know. The only ships where it doesn't apply is CVs: because their performance does not really depend on the team. And of course, if you div up you can get higher WR. But to get over 70% you must be really really good, or lucky, or something else. Like, not play randoms on weekends or whatever.

That is because the guns don't lock on, like they normally do at other ships.

Either that, or it is just coincidental and all the botes "turn away" at the same moment that I see my ping go up-down a bit... Seriously, I played online race games and we had the same issue. In principle a server (which you hosted yourself) could take 36 racers. Well, provided the circuit had 36 spots (and then there was the issue of pit spots, but hey). But it didn't really work that way. Regular online races were at the game server, and they were usually fine if your connection was good enough. But if you did host a race yourself, then it was a matter of how good anyones connection was. You could always see it at the start of races, everyone bouncing a bit. But if somebody had bad ping, his car would pop in/out of view. And yeah then sometimes he'd pop in/out of other cars, and yeah that sometimes resulted in a "launch pile-up". Look here at the start, you see ping stabilising:

Quite sure it is a thing. Might be related to that issue of fast rate of fire for some ships. When I div up with two dudes in a Smolensk it is usually noticeable if I stay near them. Well I'm not that good,. but sometimes I notice ping fluctuation - and that is when I get the worst results. Sometimes, when the game gets very 'busy' it even gives a flicker. Also, when I play the game with my son (he has his own account and is in same clan) , he notices that my torps seem not to hit a target - but they certainly do. And since we are in the same house and use the same line, there is definitely something there. Might be that the WeeGee hamsters cannot keep up with their pumping out of dakka-dakka boates.

I think it is a result of variation in ping, At the moment it is kinda crap, it was much more "set" before. I notice it especially when there is lots of stuff going on, like say 3 HE-spammers near me.

Might be because I'd rather have Haku than Midway though. Also, I always hated using rockets, the "super" ones are better but still kinda meh.

You mean "UnitedStates"? Yes it is OP, but rather meh. The steering of the planes is so bad, you better just "spam in a general straight direction". If you do that it is a great damage farmer... 200K no problem... still it is not that influential (unless you kill half the team, well yeah, which is definitely possible). The UK "super CV" is kinda lame though, and why it is called "Eagle" is beyond me.

I have... Spaghetti is kinda risky though, sauce remains wegded in the keyboard.

Well I did try a few dives across your ship, dropped some fighters and all that. Finally when I torped the DD that was in our cap you saw me (I like torping DDs... rocketing/bombing them is just no fun at all, way too easy) Or maybe, you caught me, playing those super-CVs (yes I play CV... sort of, actually mostly Ark Royal...). I should be ashamed... But they are rather meh IMO. Why? Yes those jet planes are fast, but they bring nothing. Only one drop (and torps go everywhere...). Also, can't keep anything spotted and they WILL get shot down even by a Shima. The normal planes are "better" but also not really great, and I'd not take the British one as it is as mega-meh as the rest of the line. The "extra yummie jet planes" are more like a diversion, what you can do with them is return after a ship used DCP. Only option with these "super CVs" is to attack in a straight line, really... zero agility. Yes you'll rack up 100K easily... but because above, it is not really influential, because all they are is farmers. For instance that Harugumo in our cap would have been dead 2x faster if I had brought Kaga. This is just a contest "who can farm the hardest dropping everything straight as fast as possible". Well, that is easy. The US one can. And if your team lives 20 minutes, you may farm 200K or more. If you try to help your team it is very difficult and not really effective. Also, WTF how is "Eagle" the RN CV. OK the US CV is "United States"... LMAO. I bet they call the German T11 CV "Heimat" or something. I'm not gonna guess what they'll call the Russian CV else I get banned...

Well he at least has it installed, but I doubt if he met many subs yet.