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What needs to be done is more reward for being close. Or less for being at the map border. This is easy, just make the planes slower, make concealment of CVs better. Risk vs reward. if you sit at the rear, you get 10 strikes in all game. If you are near the cap/enemy, maybe 20 strikes. I said before, planes are just too fast. In Ark Royal I have to dodge 4, 5 or 6 Flak bursts. In Ryujo, around 3. And you'd better avoid them, especially if you get into a T8 game. Not that difficult to do, but anyway. However in those T11 Super-CVs, well I can drop the load before even one Flak cloud spawns. Then they say AA doesn't work. Yes it does. Eat one flak cloud in those jet planes and they are 100% dead. The problem is, it has to exist first before you can eat it. But the planes are wayyy too fast.

You sure the DD would give a damn, he'd probably go FFU CV and go away leave the b'stard in his corner. Same thing the CV will not want to follow the DD if he yolo's straight into cap and dies in 3 minutes, as most of them do. The problem with your idea is that the idea depends on teammates, and them having a brain as well. IMO this would be fine, maybe we can have an evil clown "MUHAHAHAHA" laughter as well.

It was probably AyaTech - he knows that I know you (the other OP T11, on the reds) that gave you karma. Kinda wasted those T11 ships I think, I'm not gonna play mine much. Maybe once a week when I am ps'd off...

I do not get frustrated, WR is fine. I know I can have unicum if I try (I had it on some CVs where I did try). Mostly I use CVs nowadays to assist divisions when mates are grinding ships. And what I do is I try to "practice" AKA do the most hilariously impossible crap. Snipe the other CV, kill DDs with torps, go cap in Epoicenter map, through the channel on 2 brothers map. That sort of stuff. I still manage to do fine, which is, usually I am higher on the ladder than the red CV (sometimes a lot, well yeah, then it wasn't that hard). I actually call them Assholios. Mostly when I get killed in a BB, it is due to them. Which is also why I have no problems smacking DDs, they do not deserve pity. Well maybe a bit, some of them. I know they'll get me as well if given the chance, and some go tryhard to do that. I'll make sure to get them first though. But kudos to hem if they get me, must be said.

No, actually if you have a T6 CV and you just steer towards a T6 cruiser or BB, without doing anything, you lose half the planes or more. Say you have 9, you lose 3 on the way in, 3 on the way out and the last 3 on the next attack after the turn-around. You are correct here, the problem is the "even-tiered" CVs. Uptiered always means 2 up. And yes the rest stems from it, including the damage output. FDR is maybe the most "balanced" CV, because of the slow planes and the loiter time. The slow large squads mean you WILL lose planes because no way you can avoid all the FLAK. And you will need to negate a few FLAKbursts more because they are slow. In Haku you may get 2 FLAKbursts before drop. In FDR, you'll get 4 or 5. Which will also eat planes, and in Haku you can avoid most FLAK (more agile planes). And yes then in FDR for the second attack you will eat FLAK on the way out - and you have to find a safe space to "loiter". And then repeat after 25 secs or so, with the same problem. Which is why it can do huge damage. Slow grand-slams. Mind though... a Midway torp run delivers almost the same damage.. and you only have to hit 6 torps instead of 8. And you can do it again almost immediately. And you will be faster to return with the next squad after the first one is spent. So, why is FDR hated then? This is why: But FDR, yes it can attack a bunch of ships - because it has the plane HP to do it - but after that, that squad is done. Not a good way to do it. The best thing to do with FDR is attack a lone Currywurst, set him on fire or flood, and keep coming back until he is dead. Then find the next one. To surface ships though, this means that if an FDR wants you dead then you will certainly be dead. Meanwhile he can do nothing to your teammates, but that doesn't make it any more fun for you at all. BTW I cannot get FDR over 280K, and I know it is not me - it is just lack of finding players that are stupid enough to: - Go alone; - not manoever... ; - use DCP at the first fire ... because if I did find those then I'd reach 400K, easy.

Well if you tryhard you can.

Are you sure about that? Generally, you are correct indeed. However there are quite a few tricks to use. With a bit f RNGesus favor it can go quite well. For example I sank a T8 North Carolina with the Ark Royal in a few strikes. Many filthy tricks can be used.

1. You need to watch out not to eat the black clouds. But they are auto-generated, so basically "you steer them" to spawn at the point where you WOULD be in 2 seconds. So you need to make sure the Artificial Intelligence prediction gets it wrong, and move in the other direction as where they will spawn. If you are able to do so, you will not lose many planes at all. If not, the whole squad will get killed. It is as simple as that. 2. Around each ship there is also a "bubble" of "continuous AA". This will slowly chomp at the HP of your planes. So, do not go too close unless you have to. Plan your route carefully and use FULL THROTTLE at the last part. Then dump the ammo. Make sure you aim well, so he'll eat some (or preferable, all) of it. You may even drop torps on his behind, so he has to go straight, then drop the next set perpendicular. 3. Remember that the Black Clouds will also follow your squad on the way out. So keep zig-zagging. You do not have to zig-zag too much, just enough to make sure they miss you. Also, if you zig-zag too much, it takes time, and you might have to face another spawn of Black Cloud.

I have both, the UK one is easier to use but subject to troll RNG, the US one is more difficult in some ways but also can smack harder. Basically what hampers them both is that the planes are not maneuverable at all. then again they are so fast you can just dumpster all over the place, and I haven't run out of squads yet.

They did but it is not just "this time".

Yeah you're one of those snowflakes who'd rather see everyone die than use a gun, right? Well, have fun with that. But with that attitude, maybe you should go play something with ponies and unicorns instead of a war game. Get a life, this is a war game - and if I have to use a CV for lack of better CV players in my team, then I will. FYI yes I'd also shoot whatever person would be a treath to my family, and I'd make sure he'd be quite dead, too.

In competitive, you can actually have some degree of certainty that teammembers will shoot what you spot... In randoms, spotting is futile, as they (and/or) a) do not shoot that DD anyway b)manage to miss it by a mile. So in randoms, you better farm harder than the other CV, and make sure you farm the right targets (not always the fattest one). There's so much crap the average player doesn't know, and then they go CV do this CV do that...

But spotting... is something you can actually choose to do. Indeed it is a mechanic - but it is one that CV players get blamed for. While, as turns out in this thread, no CV player ever asked for it and it is not beneficial to themselves. Have you ever wondered what would happen if WeeGee allowed double CV in competitive? Also, if you play in a division, and every other game, you lose because your CV happens to be potat and the reds have a good one, then what?

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I'm thinking T6/7/8 ships are less concerned with T11 ships. Just saying. There is a lot of fun to be had at other tiers than 10.

I quite like Dido, which most people say is absolutely crap. And Colombo... seems to be the worst T10 BB but hey it seems to fit my playstyle.

That might be it, or maybe it is like, some great craftsmen can make a statue just using a chainsaw. Doesn't mean it is a great, fantastic and suitable tool for the job.

There is a difference, but it is not that large - mainly because they gave them so much crap to use, I can hardly manage to use it all in one game. I think you'll manage to make some credits from them too, looking at your stats.

It may be our 1991 now. Socialism doesn't work, capitalism doesn't work either. Because none of those systems will protect you from the "dishonest aircraftcarriers" that FF it all up. We have seen them emerge in 1991, and we see them emerge here as well. They'll sink each others team and then congratulate the other one. Meanwhile - in the game, if we have aircraft carriers, you'd better GitGud. Because if there is nobody that can actually handle one, then you can be sure your team loses. And in this game, there is no second place, and no refund if your ship survives undamaged...

Well... I'm not sure I would believe whatever they have to say. It is something like this:

True. I know I can do the required stuff, I am savvy enough. I'll usually outplay the other CV. Now the challenge is how to do it. As in: why bomb DDs when you can torp them, it is much more fun (also it kills them faster). And why not kill the other CV, if possible (kill the biggest treath if you can). And who says a CV cannot cap Epicentre? And of course if I get 2 brothers I'll go through middle in a CV, because FF Flambass, too. Sure I'll not reach unicum stats. Who cares, it is a game, we should have fun. Medium stats is plenty enough. Fair as in, you do not show yourself (by shooting) until you are quite sure you can whack his broadside. And as in - yes you can attack a Shima in a Paolo Yolo. When you have more friends behind you than he does. Preferably, he should not have any at all... "fair play" does not exist. This game is about whacking others. The hammer does not care about the mole, so to speak. Given the opportunity, it just goes SPLAT. Good. You seem to think clearly, wayyy better than most here. The only way to "hurt"weeGee is to not spend any money on them. Although others will still do it, and will they miss what they never had anyway. I doubt if it is effective on WeeGee. Those that see the truth, either move on or adapt. Some of them will go reee reee for a while. They will not have fun, but it will not affect WeeGee. They are just ruining their own fun. I call them flagellants. I do not know if they think it is smart. Maybe that is not their objective. Maybe they are satisfied when they are making money. But yeah if they think this implementation is smart.. .then they are indeed very very dumb.

The DM guns, though quite good, are not the greatest asset. The best is that it doesn't get blapped straight up by everything.

Well, not really. With some you can take a peek, or a gamble, and live to shoot some more. Or at least be quick enough to evade half of what they shoot at you, or bounce it. And some others seem magnetic to citadels, like they rather had been a submarine.