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well, then the question is: did it end GOOD or BAD (I have seen that operation end many many other ways... even sooner).

I had plenty games where I killed 6 in Ryujo... and I do NOT mean "KS". Turns out you need to kill 7, all games where I killed 7 were wins.

I think I agree. Just started playing DDs and I quite like them... Must get the most trollish ones, of course. So I'll get Vampire II as well, and I already have the Paolo Yolo.

I should try that in Hood, might be funny. But I'll probably just find out that the team have all died to Missouri...

Grandpa, more like it...

There's another troll option in Narai, If you get some accurate BB then it is possible to: - creep up, sidesnipe Missouri and farm citadels... even a kill is possible... - then move on REALLY QUICK and snipe the CV even before he gets smoked up & leaves. ... I did it in Hood. But you do need a bit of luck.

I stand corrected, then! Always thought you had to wait, or else no 5 stars!

I can easily match it in Donskoi... really really easy...

I dunno how you can get that, except if you just FF-ing around... even I get around 50% and I am as potato as they come. Might be if you only play the ships that you suck at or that have been nerfed into oblivion or something. And yes some lower tier ships need to be grinded to get the good T10... (yes, Buffalo I am looking at you...). Part of it IS the team though, most people nowadays seem to have no understanding at all what to do. I see DDs surfing the rear border... or YOLO to cap and die first 3 minutes. The ones that do not are getting quite rare. I know I am totally shite in a DD nevertheless I manage to end top half of the team, holy crap. But it is mostly the games themselves - often ending before you can even get 5 good shots off in a BB. And it also happens A LOT that I cap in a DD (not yolo in... but take it when possible... ) and then I cap it, and meanwhile the whole team is dead and the enemy have the other caps. And hurray here they all come in to win harder, lots of food for my torpies... except the timer runs out and I cannot even kill one. LMAO. I know I am potato but... I kinda doubt this is all my fault... might be though LOLLLLL

True most of us would have to try very hard to match that... I would not even care to try...

Nuncle Ron Jeremy?

ALSO - remember there is another way to fail Narai... If you kill everything BEFORE the transports have unloaded enough! Yesterday we had to wait a bit before killing the last ship (Colorado). NOTE: the above was debunked!, I never knew though.

I prefer to use Flint (or Rahmat...) or even Hood or Lolorado. And yes I go after the CV with those, or the transports (usually I bring my son in a DD in div though). You can also take a sneaky position with Hood and blap a few citadels into the Missouri. Also... the mess you can make, after killing the CV (and that DD+ cruiser) and then entering the harbour from the rear... TIP: If you take 5 good players in a div, you do not need to bring any randoms. You can just have it all and divide between 5 players...

Ah well I am just a N00b, hardly manage 50%....

I see somebody else likes to use torps on DDs, too...

It is the new wo(r)king environment. In which your chief of finance hasn't passed his maths, the taxi-driver is legally blind, and the secretary is called Maybe Willy.

Well, it would also mean that subs would need the ability to go after the CV. BALANCE would mean - some damage numbers, and effects. MAYBE if hit by submarine, CV can't launch planes for a while? And MAYBE if detected by submarine, CV can launch twice as fast? Endless possibilities for balance there. So - yes subs can attack CVs now, too. But they'd need something to negate the auto-damage-con. I'd say if they ping, torps should NOT HOME (as this is crap) but EXPLODE UNDER THE SHIP AND DAMAGE THE KEEL. AKA a pinged torp, should become a "depth torp", should be self-armed (not AIMED), and do a shh... load of damage (2x citadel??+auto-flood??). So, because usually a CV sits still behind an island... well you guessed it. Maybe the PING should also shut down ANY damage-con for flooding. Mate with most CVs I do not even use the rockets... because I got plenty torps, bombs... and I do much more damagewith those.. so I never have to resort to rockets. In other Cvs there is usually also a sort of planes that I find kinda "meh", so yes, I WOULD TAKE IT and I guess some others, too. Because now you can't do a thing. Ok you can drop fighters over a sub (but he'll dive) or bomb him when you happen to see him. Or torp them... And I have even rammed some... Generally though CV vs subs was historical. And it is a shame that it is not implemented, it would BALANCE a lot. In those super-CVS I have to just go berserk and waste everything because else I cannot even use everything they produce. I fail to lose enough planes...

True as well as not true, but that is a different problem, not related to the ship or DEF_AA. As you probably know. Same about "fighter plane option", BTW. The whole crap doesn't work against savvy CV-players at all. It does work against the average CV-player pretty damn well though, because he doesn't have the (smart-)ability to abuse the FF-d mechanics. The main problem here is WeeGee though, as they had a similar thing with subs. At some depth no surface ammo would hit them, and when slightly above that depth no depth charges would hit them. You'd think WeeGee would do something about abuse-able mechanics, but... NOOOOOO. And THAT is the problem.

I think they should be allowed to exchange one of their squads for "depth charge anti-sub waterbombs". Same as some ships can take a fighter instead of hydro, or Def_AA instead of radar. A gamble that might pay off or maybe not - no subs, no gain. A wild guess. Same as taking DEF-AA is kinda crap when you do not get a CV in game.

Around 25-30% usually, and if you get higher tier, DDs have a heal. Which is bad enough (for them) but usually it takes me 4 strikes to kill. Sometimes you can do more - but that would be, for example take Kaga or Lexi dive bombers, and if you manage to drop straight from behind on a DD and he doesn't swerve, over 50% + (RNGesus willing) a fire.

Nah, it is not impressive at all. I am an average pleb, but just slightly savvy - and with a LOT of experience (>>3K games in CV...). Note I will kick the average CV-players @$$ but I am not very good at all. Mostly because I always go for the most hilarious rather than the most effective. But also because I have no idea which ones I need to kill first. So, rather than dropping the biggest treath, I will drop the AA-cruiser that has just had a big mouth in chat, and then I will tell him to say hi to his mum for me... And it also depends on which CV vs what DD. A smart DD, well forget that. It will take too much time to kill him so forget him unless he is especially important. Halland... take care. There are quite a few that can FF you up if you are not careful. But you CAN get them, if needed. The problem is how to do it, my preferred method is torps (I will use torps all day in Kaga... I do not need anything else, really). Yes you can use HE-bombs, but on "carpet bombs" they are quite "RNGesus saves", and on the normal ones, they just do not do it for me. Then there is AP-bombs (doesn't work much on DD except some...) and those bouncing-bombs (they work... really well). Rockets... boarfff... the only ones worth it IMO are the fat ones on Midway. And the AP rockets pon the German CVs (against cruisers and fat DDs). I tend not to use them at all if I have enough other squads.

You need to predict a bit what he'll do... but almost guaranteed he eats one. Maybe two. I think the problem of that is, they do not kill them, unless he is low. or you need to hit the DD 3-4 times. Which is: why to use torps. ...depends if they are dumb, or busy with something else. But indeed rockets suck (especially AP rockets). Better use HE rockets to (re)set (perma)fires.

Just use the torps... They counter ALL kinds of buggers.

Even WeeGee cannot maintain that a CV is balanced in 7 vs 7. If my teammates manage to live long enough I can kill all 7 in 20 minutes. Problem: so can the red CV...

Yes indeed. Still I got 7 kills in a Ryujo... you guessed it, all my teammates were dead.