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It should be a DD that has 100kts speed and insane AA though, spamming smoke and torps everywhere. We do 3x CV vs 3x CV in the training room. It's hilarious.

Agreed with the rest, but CVs tend to farm DoT damage too. HE bombs on the US and RN carriers, for example. On the IJN it's AP. But all CVs do depend on flooding. Indeed sometimes I go, should I prevent the cap, and then seeing we still have two... I let the reds cap. If I kill their DD, it will cost me time, better spent farming some BBs. And having 2 caps instead of 3 will make the game last longer...

YOU ARE RIGHT, sort of. There isn't less skill gap than before - but in a way, there also is. We have more AA-ships now than before. It is important to know which ships to attack and which to steer WIDE. And how to detect/suspect those. So, IMO the skill gap has increased. The thing that WG has succeeded in, is the EFFECT of that skill gap is reduced. This is simply ONE thing: no CV can now just push over the enemy CV (after which the better CV could just farm at will). Also, you cannot one-strike-delete most ships. You COULD before. Means: enemy-potato-Cv deleted = a sure win. Not so much anymore. Sure, if @El2aZeR is on your side in a CV you can count on him smacking half the red team. But if you have a few good other players on the reds I'm not sure if he can make it a win. Also... 200K for a good player in a T10 match, is similar to what you'll get in any BB (Yamato: record average is 200K+). In Conqueror, the AVERAGE damage of the best ones are ~185k. I have it, done 155k already... and I have 25 games in it. I'm a pretty mediocre player. I'm sure there's a 200k+ game waiting for me out there. In Conqkek, I'll have to do at least 60k damage to 'break even' on credits (service cost). But I'll have to do that in the T8 CV also - haven't got the TX yet but I imagine it's worse. In Conqkek that is an average game... in the T8 CV, it is a GOOD game if I make that line. BUT... and here is the thing: in the CV it doesn't matter THAT much how bad or good my team is. If they potato, or lemming, or whatever, I CAN always make mediocre damage. In Conqkek... if my team suck, or THE OTHER team sucks... I'll not get any good damage at all.

It really is not. You must be constantly active and on the prowl to be anywhere near decent. To be GOOD you actually need to keep an eye out on lots more than in a BB. They are the easiest class to FF-around in, and survive the battle, yes (so is a border-hugging BB...). Doesn't mean that's any GOOD. You might bleed credits even in T6 CV, or do less damage than your net worth HP.

That would be stupid. If I can fly directly over a ship, it means it has no AA and it's sort of free kill. I WILL ignore some ships even if in cap though, if it's a Mino then good luck but I won't touch it until it is half dead at least. WHY: I will not be able to damage that. The team must do it, they are far more capable shooting Mino than the CV.

I REALLY LIKE the hate that gets poured in chat when I play CV. I even post messages like C:/mods/torpedocheatspam/activate Delicious

Do not forget the RN CV, they have pretty accurate torps.

I'm quite sure ANY ship is OP in the "right" hands against the "wrong" people. As in: yes I can delete a T8 cruiser with my T6 CV, if he is stationary behind his island focussing forward. I'll just hang around behind him, and torpedo his but when the smokescreen runs out. Sure it will cost me the squad... it will cost them the cap though. Especially when I co-operate with a DD that sets him on fire after he used DC. It's not that hard... use F3... whole team will spam him. CV haters gonna hate. No problem, I'll feast on their tears.

Yes you can, unless that CV is kinda troll and savvy.

...on the other hand, I had a LOL time yesterday bombing the one (Tirpitz) into oblivion with a T6 CV, and then capping C myself in Furious... glorious trolling... yes zero karma.

In Colorado that usually ends up in 'the fighting retreat'. Sometimes I stick behind an island, sip coffee and start the mayhem when their lemming train has sort of passed. Those are the fun ones.

I rather enjoy the curses and abuse actually. And I take pride in having zero karma. @MrConway can we have a troll-flag, please create some CV mission? A troll camo wouldn't go amiss either. Maybe I can make them have a fit.

Wooden cloggs and windmills would be a great perma-camo.

Same reason though: the Dutch didn;t want to spend any money, also that is why you get no torpedoes and only meagre guns.

THIS, indeed. I'd say after T8 that would be OK, but please make a 'LINE' so actual WW2 ships do not meet paper stuff and such. IMO this is all a matter of 'bad planning', a pre-WW2 ship like New Mex gong against a paper ship that wasn't even built before New Mex was scrapped.

I always have to play a few games when I change ship. After that I can sort of 'blindshot' it. No careful aiming required.

Well, I had to go for 'No - below 60% player". However I AM in a clan, and I DO play CB and we are close to the 'level up' in CB. Probably means we suck but at least we co-operate better.

Well.... 1. I am not playing enough CV... 2. Maybe I should do it more. Can't be worse... (ended in top 3 every FF-ing time... ARRGHH).

Maybe you should join the WG developers... Unfortunately I do not have the French Toast nor the Sims, but my div-mate has a Sims. Would be a funny test. Lots of my clanmates have it too. We need some stuff to put it on the net, too. We'll give it a try and then post it here. I like making movies (and yes, I'm like you when I am bored...).

Actually if he is on YOUR team it is more like voyeurism.

Well, we already knew it was a bit faster. Now we gonna see if you can actually OVERTAKE them and slalom. Als we are curious what happens if you 'torp the torpedo', AKA ram it from behind. Can you push it? If you can predict what will happen, maybe we should have a contest with that one @MrConway ?

Pretty good... now next up, can a French DD on boost outrun the Sims seamines?

It's TX, eh? So I guess for me that will be the Conqkek meme-boat.

I've become a LOT more map-aware... it's still hard to predict the 'WHY would they do that' types... I'd say they can balance all they want, 40% vs 30% players.... ehhh... well... Some +1/-1MM would be more advisable. Maybe it will work on weekends when there are more people playing. I doubt it. Even a VERY bad div, when coupled with a good one, cannot lose the game, as they would not make much difference to start with. Yes you'd lose 3 ships... but... you would not REALLY miss their performance... as there would not be any... In fact, it might be even BETTER, as in doing Narai (or Dynamo) with 5 players. More damage for you. Last week me and my divvy kicked a whole team. We were the only ones left. He killed 6, I killed 3. We could not get the rest of them (they ran) so we capped... and won. He in T8 lightning, me in Hood (what else). We're both < 50%...

I've done Narai and such a few times with you and ForlornSailor. I remember you being quite amazed at me shooting cruisres in Hood. Front turrets, BOOM one devstrike, rear turrets BOOM another devstrike. Even devstriked that BB once. And that was before the buff... I remember you two being pretty good. Much better than most people I played with... I usually fdiv up with my son, he likes DDs a lot. He's also much better than me with them. I'm quite average, I just know how to shoot. I'd say you are better, the thing is, how much will it help in current state of affairs. Yeah that is what I mean. I am quite unorthodox though. I tend to use a BB as a cruiser. I go in behind the DDs even before the (usually cowardly) cruisers. And with HE loaded... usually I blow a red DD or a cruiser out of the cap, then I run like hell. Works perfectly in Conqkek, they'll usually only get 25% off my health, and they never know where I'll show up next But indeed those games is most what you get - makes me go because you even get them at T10. In fact, it's worse there.