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Not bad... but how about this: I like this one best though:

It would make some of us very very rich though

Those cruisers will kill you as they have about the same effective range, more peed, and more DPM. Your AP will not help, only works against those that are broadside. All you shoot with it is HE, and you depend on fires mostly for damage. DDs, yeah. You can kill those. If you can catch them.

I found Monarch much better than KGV, even if it had the "old" guns from Queen E/Hood. Compared to other ships it is still a bit crappy, Lion gets better and Conqkek is great.

My divmate has those. I cannot grind them all at once, eh. OK maybe I can... but there's other stuff I want to do, too.

I know how it works (or should work...), that is why I was amazed. It shouldn't happen. Now this might be confirmation bias, but if you have KGV, try it when we get free respecs. BTW at 15km the KGV AP can't pen anything, WG itself also states that you should get in to 12km. But at 15km even lower tier BBs pen you from all sides. It's a mehbote, especially after Queen E.

Well, by the time I had grinded it I had those... (10 to 15 points cpt...). I also have tried it without... it lives a bit longer... but less dmg. The KGV is not my kinda ship, simple as that.

I know the math. Hey guess what, I did the math , too. x1.3 should not really help except on some cruiser parts. But... If you haven't sold King Grog the Filth, try a respec next CB and see what you think. Maybe you (like me) also think WG 'forgot to mention' something. Oh wait, they never do.

I know... had it as a "rental". Great dakka. Good agility. No more rentals though, I'm getting a Salem.

Hell yeah why not, I had a free respec... so I tried it. And yes I know it should not work. But! Might be conformation bias as I calculated it only had limited use on some parts of higher tier cruisers. What I (seemed to) get was almost no more shatters, and even more fires. My theory is that WG has 'forgotten' to say that actual HE pens have more firechance than HE-shatters or bounces.

No mate, I'm not that good but that ship is crap for me. Some ships I like, well this one I just don't. I think it's a crappy mehboat that gets penned and citadeled by any and every other BB, and that gets burned down VERY fast by higher tier cruisers once they spot you.

I'm not that good, and I even put IFHE on it... it gave ~30% more damage.

I did get a nice 'record' of 120k+, but still it is usually crap at T7. Anything at that tier can pen your bow. But YOU cannot pen ANYTHING. At T6 Queen E can just about pen anything, and overmatch many. QE AP is better than KGV AP. You can put stuff on fire with KGV, but generally, it is crud. Even if QE has slow gun rotation. Many times I got T9 game, and wished I had my Queen E. A few times I did... (fail-division). It is actually better to have Queen E in T9 than KGV. I was so happy to have my AP again at T8 Monarch. 197k is excellent, but most of it is DoT. Which will never happen in current ROFLSTOMP-meta.

Largely agreed on that, as you call in the AP CVs. But mind, there's still lots of RNG in others. I don't have the AP bombers, and really with HE bombs (and mind RN, carpet bombing...) RNG plays a large part. Not just if you hit it, but if you get a fire - and ESPECIALLY if you start perma-fires or RNG decides you do not - but the guy hitting 2 secs after you will get three... Used to be: hot damn no fire, well, another strike. But no way you'll manage to do that now. Sometimes you get games that you'd be better off just farting in their general direction (AKA long range spamming HE with a Bismarck).

Horrendous. After tanky Queen E with great AP, it is a horrible ship. Mind, when I had it I had a 10 point captain - and I put IFHE on it, else the damage was really really meh. The AP sucks, the HE has great fire chance but that's DoT, and with current ROFLSTOMPS... Meh Boat. But in retrospect, as a 'fat cruiser' and with a 19pt captain it wouldn't be that bad. I also can see why you'd think it is great or maybe OP. But you didn't have to grind through it in current meta, where everybody is camping and any stupid cruiser can citadel it or spam it to death. Yes, basically it is a mini-Conqkek. But with a lot of MEGA-Stalingrads around it, currently. You cannot escape, you cannot out-DPM them, and they CAN angle against you very well.

Must have missed you, so was I (looking at my WR, I belong there too LOL).

Indeed. But those figures are atrocious. MM is indeed broken AF.

Exactly. Balans is overrated. Yeah that will be something... (and I even have it myself). Still, it might be something useful, preventing the current ROFLSTOMPS. IMo WG had made many ships too powerful which leads to games being campy as hell and ending very suddenly. That's also why the CV's don't work, nobody is careful with them as you need to do DMG DMG DMG quick quick quick before the game ends. Well at least I have half of that...

Even more so than a Furry Taco, but it also steers a lot better. It's damn OP if you like it. If you do not, you'll hate it and never play it. So everybody that DOES play it... is quite good with it. Yeah you give some and get some. But it is better to give than to receive... IMO it is a Leander without smoke, sort of 'saving up' the dakka and then letting it all go at once. Since I do not often use the smoke (they don't see you, but you can't see anything either, and don't you dare count on your team....) that works out great for me. I find Exeter an excellent ship. Even better if you team up with a good DD.

Ah well you can always hope.

The average game (that is somewhat 'normal') I get 80-100 K or there about. But man, seems like there are almost no normal games anymore. Which is the same with the carriers, too. Crap games, win or lose, and low damage.

Yeah Wut indeed. I guess you have never experienced a weekend-team on full blast. Matches lasting 5 minutes or less. You can't even finish one ship, then suddenly you see shells flying in from unexpected direction. And then when you look, your whole team has melted, and six enemy ships incoming, And it's just you and a teammate... Not much better when your team does the stomping... if that's 3-5 minutes, you get 6-10 salvoes. How much damage can you do with that? Roflstomp... here we go. Never happens to you?

Well, the games that I don't are the games that I get 25-30k. Because nobody else dares. Usually I go in with a DD-f div mate. A good one. You know, one that doesn't smoke up at the first fart. I stay a bit behind him, and he spots the reds first. Usually the I turn broadside (they do not see me yet), and when I am sort of on my way back then I let them have it... Rarely do they all open fire at me... because that also gives away their position. Still they have only 20 secs (or less, often I disappear behind island...) and that's not even enough to warrant a heal to start. Wiggle wiggle, makes them miss even more, and of course change direction once stealth is restored. Not that risky. BTW since when did a Conqkek care about HE anyway. It's all healable. Usually it does: - give us the cap; - blap a cruiser (sometimes two, I fire single turrets at a time); - even if I don't manage to kill one completely, my mate finishes the job. - ...and sets of a less boring game because now all hell breaks loose. I do not have the legendary... I have the "super heal" I think in slot 1 or 2. But I do have the available rudder upgrade. It's plenty agile.

Well, just that I got one doesn't mean it is supposed to happen. Could be WG-special. I'm quite sure it happened a few times to a French cruiser, and once to a Ruski. But not sure which ones. If I'd known is was rare I'd have takes screenies. After all Conqkek (and any BB) does citadel cruisers with HE, too. And I think bombs are bigger than shells, so... I was more amazed about the 'one shot wonder' than anything else.

Nope. I use the small guns, full concealment build, and then I go after my DDs. Since cruisers are usually too scared, somebody has to do it. Oh... and I use AP... not the typical Conqkeke player. usually games are too short to so much better though.