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well, their AA sucks... and their torps aren't that much. Thinking of something like Neptune or Mino. They spam so much torps, might as well be a DD.

I can tell you taht IF the CV wants a BB dead, it dies. And if CV wants a cruiser dead, it dies too. No matter if it is a Minotaur. I can do it in a Lexington (not so much in the Implacable... but maybe that's me). It will cost me haklf the game, but hey. However... somebody showed me there is NO WAY to kill some DDs. Enjoy. I did, even a lost game is good if you have a GOOD game. I prefer it to T10 islandcamping. In fact T10 islandcamping is why I want to play CV. I hate campers. And yes I will play subs, too. Well... what can I say... damage for other CVs is kinda low. IMO they should be between (most) BB and (most) CL. And by "most" I mean exclude the HE-damagewhores, we all know who they are... Enterprise is kinda OP... especially if a GOOD player gets it... not so much if a potato player has it. @El2aZeR is correct here: the reeeeework has MADE THE GAP LARGER between bad and good players. However... CV cannot do much vs other CV... THAT has worked. No matter if one CV is better than the other. But a reasonable CV player (would NOT call myself good... at all...) vs potato team... well hell... watch this one... it's still a loss though... 20190907_235355_PASA106-Ranger_05_Ring LOL.wowsreplay Thing is, I think CVs are lacking alpha, sort of - and I think the "3 or more strikes" is kinda crap. I prefer the old way, really. Not having (at T4) 3x 1 torpedo, but having 3-at-once. I think the "new plane fills in for dead one" is ridiculous. Yes AA-detection doesn't even exist. I sometimes get shot down and then go WTF. Doesn't even give me on the minimap what it was that killed my whole squad. And when you use AA in smoke there is no way I can see where it comes from (could be anywhere in that smoke). Mind I can see if you use main guns, and will aim for it. Especially RN clusterfu.. ehh bombs are effective. Mind that with rockets you can ONLY SEE the DD at 2.5km, no matter if he is firing. Which is why you have to drop fighters (might as well call them spotters) or use bombers (they do not have that 2.5 limit). And the rockets, man they require a loooong "run"and if the DD makes unexpected moves your aim goes off - and you might just miss ALL the rockets. Hell no. But all DDs have much better torpedoes than planes. And their torps are usually what kills CV, the guns are not that dangerous. A gunboat DD will usually struggle to kill a CV. A torp DD will kill the CV easily, sometimes without even being spotted. So because of that, a CV player might only think of DDs as being "torp boats". Because that is what he gets for dinner... And yes I also think DDs are torp-boats, mostly because they get vastly more torps than any other class. Except maybe RN cruisers like Neptune/Mino and those, but I do regard these as mega-fat-DDs...

Hmm... I had DD players get away with meagre 600 damage... Avoiding is possible @GulvkluderGuld he is the living proof. I could NOT get him. I d saved the replay here you can see how it is done. EDIT: wrong replay... correct one now. 20190908_225020_PASA106-Ranger_13_OC_new_dawn w. Gulvkluderguld.wowsreplay Hmm... well maybe BBs can, but first of all they are quite slow... and second good luck to them as I'll usually use rockets on their superstructure. Cruisers, yes maybe, if they are good AND lucky. It's not that easy at all. Last ranked T6, I killed two DDS. One with CV-torps. He ate one, then ate some rockets, and after ate another torp. The third one was actually damn good and killed me. He avoided almost all damage from my attacks. Didn;t even TRY to topr him, as it was obviously useless. So: possible, certainly. Easy, not so much. But do not underestimate the amount of potato DDs. Race to cap, oh-crap-moment, smoke up, die in smoke... It might be just as bad as the amount of potato BBs, or CVs... or...

Usually I start out with torps. At the beginning ships haven't grouped up yet. I make sure they never do... they're still scared of two meagre torps. You have to herd them like sheep a bit. With Furious the trick is to send rocket planes first against BBs. You'll lose a lot, but you'll set fires and/or damage modules... mainly AA. Then send in the DB... loiter around a bit after he fires up his AA... strike... get fire. Wait if he uses DCP. Then strike again.

Yeah you did damn good. The only player on our team that was good was the DD... I think he had a Gallant. Plus 1 for him too. We killed two of your DDs (meh meagre damage... but they also tried to snipe me), and were going after some of your BBS - but after that we were overrun because the rest of our team had melted. Once the DD got blapped I knew... I can't keep all of the reds down in a T6 CV I almost had you a few times, but your "CV planes avoiding tactics" really worked well. When I had the rockets lined up you turned into them really quick - made most of them miss. ANd when I had the bombers lined up you made MAAADDDD moves, couldn't follow those... Any lesser DD (your teammates...) would have croaked it on the first attack (one of them even ate my torps). Grats on the win, and HOLY CRAP you're damn good. Expected trouble, but that was awesome. I could have moved the CV but it would have been postponing the inevitable. I could JUST NOT get the drop on your DD. You need a fair "lead" with Ranger planes. Don't get too cocky though, it will not work that well against Furious... that turns a bit shorter. Might need one more "run" as it is less powerful (unless you're lucky with the carpet bombs). C ya next game, hope on my side... (or me in Furious).

Today bumped into @GulvkluderGuld in Ranked T6. Didn't end well for me. Buuut I had already killed one of their DDs, mauled the other one, terrorised the Fuso and scared the Bayern... Unfortunately for me my team melted faster than I could throw away planes.

CV TROLLING IN RANKED @El2aZeR masterrrrrr you proud now... sorry still a loss... need to grind harder. 90K, one kill, one almost, capped all caps.... trolled the other CV and still lost. 20190907_235355_PASA106-Ranger_05_Ring LOL.wowsreplay

If they are angles about 25 degrees is ideal - if Hindi would go (almost) nose-in, you can pen him from the front. From straight front: You can pen his turrets, his upperstructure, and (if you are lucky) some of the shells might pen the deck. Mind you can't pen his bow, but neither can you co that if he is angled. If he is angled MORE than "bow-in"and upto 30, even his superstructure might give you overpen, and the whole body will bounce everything. If you hit the armour belt it will shatter. What you were missing - shoot HE. And get moving... (escape those HE-spammers.... or at least make it a bit harder). BTW I assume you were bow-in, so "six or seven volleys" (six guns firing = 36-42 shots) and then get 14 hits is not bad aim at all. But HE doesn't ricochet much (autopen 1/6 of caliber no matter what angle), and doesn't overpen. Since Iowa has 406mm it has HE-pen of anything < 65mm (1/6). 14 hits x ~1800 = 25.200 damage if you had shot HE. Of course I dunno what you did get with AP. Better or worse? Also, I think HE from Iowa will pen Hindy everywhere. Might be wrong, not sure.

Ovechkin has Mega Survivability Expert, also works very well on planes. Thought one of them also had extra DE but i might be wrong there. I have only the collection one (14pt so far). Special IJN or RN captain might also be a thing. Uhhh... I suppose you also have the Graf Zepp? Jawohl There is also eine German Spezialkapitän. But I have only the RN and US, so far T4 upto T8 (I kept them all...). My builds for both RN and US look much like the USN form Bear_Necessities. ANYTHING to make planes survive longer.

He could also have Ovechkin, on the US line. His "special perks" make a difference. Although I think the setup from @Bear_Necessities and @El2aZeR will be much better than mine.

I cannot play Dds any good, else I might have thought the same. At least... until I saw that pricetag... My guess is I'll be saving up for Java or De Ruyter. But only if they are cheap.

Well, as a TRUE DUTCHMAN you should actually wait until you get at least 50% discount...

I consider it a reminder that when you skimp too much, well this is what you get... I'm Dutch as well but I think if it were possible the Dutch governement would buy ships at Aldi supermarket (when on sale). Looks nice though. But should AT LEAST come with gaudy Frisian flag camo for that price.

I already have... and a perma-camo on her (bought for free dubloons). But I just like the ship, also have Hood - and will get Ark Royal (with Jingles Commander). Hmmm... I think the whale-virus got me a bit... @wot_2016_gunner well yeah my list looks sort of like yours - not much interested in "paper ships". I got Hood (excellent), Texas for cheap, some 1-euro-low-tier stuff, and WG gave me Arizona (wohooo!). Also got Exeter from one of those grinds. Salem for coal. I seem to like RN/US stuff... but not DDs. I use them mostly for captain retraining and operations.

I'd not mind if they offered me a "rental Warspite" and a 50% discount...

Maybe it comes with 1000 free ramming flags... I think that is the only hope.

You mean, as in the Italian.

Ah well, I have weekends where I get 60%+ WR, and great damage... when I have the luck to get longer games and non-worthless teams. I also have weekends where I gett great WR and meagre damage, because none of the games last longer than 10 minutes... you win, but ROFLSTOMPS. ...and then there's those where you seem to have ff-ed up badly with RNGesus, and you get ROFLSTOMPS in which you lose as well. I'm not that good. I can't carry games, certainly not if I'm in a CV or in a cruiser. I know how to farm damage, I know how to aim, I know how to do something that makes sense... But hey I'm not Notser or Flamu or any of those, I need a bit of luck and RNGesus giveth and taketh. SO, I'll probably end up between 45% and 55%... LOL. So be it. I'll try, but I cannot make miracles happen. Well, I'll try to sacrifice some more goats....

Meh, I'll be able to buy it pretty quickly if I want. And halfway Neptune already... BTW looks like another "keeper".

The current (HE-spam) state of the game is why I DO NOT LET Colorado out in anything but Operations...

Dunno about those. Killed plenty with torps on Edinburgh, Fiji and Leander. I always imagine if one of those had radar AND hydro, and HE... I dare not think about Neptune having HE.

But Belfast has no torps. Anyway when I have the Minomonster I'll find out if I like it, and then get Smol. Maybe.

I'm not quite sure, actually if I had a second head I might give it a try. It would be a close call who causes the biggest dent.

Got the one for Furryous... looks good.

@B0Tato Note that it isn't my idea, I just offered help bc we have Sims. I think it will not make a difference, but we'll see.