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AH dammit. Just when you think you are brilliant... blapped again.

Here's an idea... since you have those "cheeks"that can be citadelled from the front... MOVE IN REARWARDS.... (also you can GTFO a lot faster).

@Kaleun_HarryG Ships like that are sometimes "on nutter sale" as well. That's why I save the coal. I got Yubari for €2,50 or so, and also bought Tachibana (€ 0,89) which use the same captain (with IFHE and CE, hilarious...). If you need another nutter ship, get Smith when it is 89 cents... LOL. If you spec "torpedo reload expert" it shoots a torp every ten seconds. And the premium version of the St.Louis --> Charleston. I also got Campbelltown on the same sort of deal. I use them as "captain retrainers", if I get/grind a new ship the captain goes to 50% dumb, they are quite handy. NOOOOOOOOO it's not that I like to club seals, not al all... we NEVER have a division of 3 and then go clubbing...

Correct. What it is good for, is to have a bit of LOL. But to have real LOL you need a 19pt captain that has IFHE. And seriously... if you have one, and want to put him PERMANENTLY on a ship, buy back the KUMA and put him there... awesome. Biggest club seals have ever seen.

I guess you do not play CV then. Today I had a Ranger in the reds. Yeah he still had planes... 2 or 3 per launch. So you do worry if you get shot down or not. Also, have a look at the games from @mcboernester, he posted some here. There is a clear difference between the ones that CAN and the ones that CANNOT. That said - plenty things still wrong. And even more could be better. And you are right not to spend any money on the game if you do not like it.

Won't help. Actually that is because of the spotting. Ever tried to delete a low-health ship? Deliver the final blow? Guess what... shells are still faster than planes. I should have regular Krakens, but nope.

Oh man... I knew I was stupid... I dunno if it has torps or not... so, it wasn't Friesland... but there were a sh... load of them... Even then... you'd have noticed if you had gone pink. They weren't yours. Probably Fletcher, he was next on my to-do-list. EDIT: tried checking but we had another update, so no replay. What a cheater! A Friesland with torps!!

NAh they were Frieslands torps... you'd have gone pink if they were yours. It was my bad for not thinking of Friesland having torps (I could have avoided them if I had... duh). But I still got him... I'd have gone on wreck them if I had lived... I saw two more potential victims. I knew Friesland had to die else we'd lose, most likely. My teammate was already coming in case he got me (and he went LOLOLOL at me eating torps... yeah it was dumb). We often div T6/T7, or T6/T7/T7 - usually because WG didn't give us T7 carriers... (should see the chat when T9 players get confronted by Ark Royal... and lose...). In this case we were grinding them, he has the T7 already and I still need a few games. Happens 1/20 you get T9. But... I got Friesland... See ya around & keep torping! (and don't worry about faildivs unless you are in a T9 and you see me in Ark Royal on the reds... then start running... )

Wait until you grind the IJN line...

Grazie. The reason I was thinking "maybe not" is because it i used to fire through rocks, same as the DD/CL in smoke will still fire his AA even though he's not spotting you himself. Do you know if it is the same with DPS-bubble?

They'd be liars, if he encountered a rainstorm it would change into a hurry-cane and get the hell outta there. Also, it would only look like a rainstorm. What it really is: the women and children of his enemies weeping, and driven before him.

Some ships have only one FLAK cloud... then they also get added in the middle. However, when you attack "in a bend/curve" they'll never explode in front of you, so... useless.

I guess that is because not many people meet a CV that can actually hit them... time after time after time. I agree though (and I play CV...). Of course. And if you have 3 player with 33%WR it's also fine (3x33 > 90% WR). In case of the rare 20%WR players, you'll need five. Such a thing would also be boring as F. Current "arm/aim the O-sector" is much more satisfying than previous. Like - pressing the DEF AA is actually "interaction" of a sort. There is no satisfaction in automated crap. I'd say turn off AA unless people press "O" and then let it aim where they actually point their cursor. Make it 20x as strong for 10 secs. Whatever. But the attack needs to be SLOWER for people to be able to react anyway. I can see a clear difference between ARk Royal and Furious and Ryujo.... first one, they sometimes even dodge torps. They even have time to type insults, too. Last one... they are hit before they even know it's coming. Spotting should be like this: - Flying high& fast: no spotting, but faster travel. Immune from AA (ships see you, but you are too high); - Attack mode: planes are much slower, but they spot. It MUST be used to be able to engage. CAN be used to "have a peek". - Only the "attack wing" goes down from high&fast, rest of the squad stays above clouds. Thanks for the info. Are you sure AA isn't active either when SOMEBODY ELSE spots the planes? @Nibenay78 we have info.

@El2aZeR does the AA still go through islands/rocks or did they change it? It sort of is. Which is why I prefer Ark Royal, with the slow planes it is kinda challenging to do really well. I agree, but WG wanted the CVs to appeal to the same people that like the way the other ships play. So the RTS was a "had to go". See above. ALso, I don't see why RTS would not be an option, still. It would be just a different way of view/control. Yeah for me too, else I'd play the PS4. Well the most complicated game I had as a kid was Pac Man... yeah I'm old... I think same.

More like, you concentrate on getting that damn Balanzgrad, dive full speed over a hill on him like a vulture, congratulate yourself on having estimated right where he is, speed and direction, and just when you drop you notice your teammate shoving himself between your torps and the Balanzgrad... Or, you try to finish off that Mino, hop/skip/turn over islands, swerve, and then when you have just pressed "DUMP BOMBS" ......he gets blapped by that useless borderhumping BB because you were spotting him.... zero points.... but all planes lost....

Either that, or you buy "Whatever Black" and some other premiums and derp straight to T8/9...

On a side note, getting a new PC soon, and it will have Windows 10. The thing is it has a screen-recording device. I previously used 3rd party software to make movies for a race game. You know, best moments (actually: most derp moments and spectacular FF-ups). I quite liked that.... derp music and sound-effects included. Always had LOLZZZZ making them. How about a "CV derps & FF-ups", would that be appreciated?

Now, the thing is - why doesn't WG do stuff like that. Make a premium version of it (again) and have it called "Enterprise MW". Of course a bit less OP... Have an event around it, and sell it like hot cakes.

Could be that I missed the change, but I don't think so. Might also be you are right though. I'll keep an eye out. But I think they're too lazy to fix it, was "working as intended" so.... would surprise me if they fixed it. Well, maybe. I just see it as more shenanigans, not really "depth". If it were depth, every ship would have its own "trick" and there would be some kind of balance. Instead, they just introduced lots of tricks. Complex, yes. More depth, well no. But that's my opinion. Well, not all stuff is equally accessible. I can't play DDs any good, because I'm too slow. Could also say "they do not suit my playstyle", but hey. And WG meant the "new" CV to be more 'action-orientated'. Must say... the old way DEMANDED more action... but it looked more like 3D chess... sort of. A whole different experience. And that is the main thing - players that liked the rest of the game, would probably not like CV-play. I didn't, for example. It was too different. People also stated it was being "made PS4 ready". There may be some truth in that (though CVs haven't made it to the PS4... yet?). But they certainly had the PS4 audience in mind. And no... there is a VERY limited market for "reality hardcore" games. Also, it is a lot more demanding than what we have. You'd not get away with stuff like one team having IJN and US ships, for instance. You'd need more realism. Much more. WOW man long time ago I saw that word! I'd not be surprised if we did get that. We sort of do, every Halloween and what not all. Yes there's a market for that, too.

I think it goes like this: - play any ship upto T4; - enter CV hell; - start playing CV; - fail CV at T6; - get free Zeppy Black; - fail at T8..... Of course there will be players that buy lots of stuff and continue their uphill struggle. Maybe those are the kind WG wants? Maybe they have enough Free To Play potatoes already?

Eeeh.... AA still goes through mountains. Just if your planes are UNspotted, there is no AA. I never understood why radar goes through mountains, either... but hey. If any consolance, WG don;t listen to me either. I still like it. Must be my cynical nature. Sometimes I actually almost get a fit laughing. Wake up, this game will not mature at all. I think 50% of the players are underage kids. I'm playing with my son, we started when he was 13... it's fun, arcade. It's not a simulation. As he gets older, he gets more interested in stuff like.... whatsitcalled... damn I forget. But that is what they meant it to become. A console game designed for a younger child. Sort of. More accessible to the casual gamer. This is what you get. FWIW the older version was not working for me. Lots of stuff not working as intended. I think the current version is more immersive, but that's a matter of taste. But I also think there is "something rotten in the state of...", so to speak. But hey... I also see DDs pumping out 20 torps (the thing would have fallen over in real life) and then a few minutes later, they do it again.... Never feel old, unless you just are. I never was one for "fast action shooters" to start with. But that IS a compliment to WG, they do offer something for everyone. (my son likes DDs though... and he's quite good).

Works though. Ever seen a full-camo-spec conqueror? AAnd it used to be even less (I think 10.9 but somebody here will know). Yes, but on the other hand, CV-pilots do not have any control. That is how WG wanted it. We also have no control about steering and such. How would you like it, in a BB? Because they'd wreck the place.... And yes, someday they WILL BE ELIGIBLE. And yes, before you ask... I have Midway spaded & ready... Before, there weren;t that many... now there are. Mostly Japanese. Guess why: Because WG had the idea it would be better if they had DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF TORPS. Duh. I think it is a moronic idea and I even play the things. Well yeah. Depends if those 3 players remember how to push "O"-sector... then he will not... Also, the planes have three "groups". When one attacks, the other ones fly on. Those survive.... mostly. Might be confirmation bias... but worth a test. Usually are not able to survive it. Also, depending on the ship. I have been blapped in one shot... also survived MANY shots... depends on teh angling and what is shooting. Uhhhh... cruiser shooting AP at angled carrier.... noooo.... but BB shooting AP at broadside carrier --> BLAP. Sure doesn't. But lots of other stuff doesn't make sense either. That is how WG wants it bro. REad the 500+ pages and see what carrier-players think about it. It's not like we're all happy. Some even dedicate time to prove WG how OP the carriers are. Carrier players provide tips how to survive, too. But spreadsheet says we're having fun...

Don't worry, the "experienced pro" players need cannon fodder as well. In fact so dp the les-potato-but-not-pro players. And the there's me. In fact that is a stupid move (or lack of moves) from WG. What happens is they promote sort of a lemmingtrain to tier 10. The only thing that keeps everyone from playing tier 10 is the credit-cost. So you'll need to keep a few "credit farmers" at (a bit) lower tier.

The only way... is to div up. Yes you still get potatoes but at least then you have two players that are not. OK maybe not but at least you can yell at them. If you know them in real life you can even punch them in the face. I don't play it but I can imagine. Before this I used to play racing games and yes we also modded the hell out of them. So, you pays your game and then you find a server to play ("race") on in the vanilla game. What do you get, lots of morons who think they entered demolition derby (there's a game for that too, it is called GTA5). So there you are with a few mates on that server trying for the lap record, on comes somebody who thinks it is fun (OK sometimes it is fun) to drive the track in reverse and see how the digital crumple-zones work. And yes you get "unicums" that slap you all the way (and FPS is life, so the fatter PC you have the better, PTW glory, too). What you end up doing is hosting your own server, trying to form a "clan" and have weekly games. Produce your own mods and host them to keep things interesting as the vanilla game gets old after a while. But that doesn't last forever either, the game gets outdated, friends get different priorities, et cetera. It all ends even after lots of (time, money, energy...) investment. A game like this isn't that bad. It is a way to relax... mostly. If you make it a way of life... personal goals... well yeah... you are gonna get disappointed.