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Unicums matter. They can (if they are a bit friendly) teach others a lot. Some here showed me a few tricks, and they are damn useful. Well... I'd agree that a 35% WR player can get to at least "reasonable" 50%. But I'll never get unicum with DDs, for instance. Fact is I'm just too slow to react so DD vs DD usually means I am dead. However, some just claim to be "good" and then you check and they have 35% WR but they still say their opinion is top dog. That way you'll never learn, and the least you could do is listen. Obviously even if you KNOW how to do it... then it still needs doing. And that is a different matter.

Boarfff I will find a way of sinking subs in my CV, as well. Thanks,. It cannot be 100% truth since I suck at playing DD. I do play them a little - and because I know what the CV will do... usually the CV is least of my problem. Usually I am not fast enough (old fart here) to survive fights with other DDs. But I'm plenty good in making devious plans and executing them. Yup that's it. Actually your own CV should spot that cap, and teammates should whack that DD. Yes that is the main part of the problem. I have a steady divvy who I usually team up with, and he plays 90% DD... We often fail-division, too... T7 Sims + T6 Ark Royal. https://wows-numbers.com/player/552033702,BLUB__BLUB/?type=div2 I get more damage when playing alone in CV - as, with my slow planes, the DD takes the kills usually. But WR... the two of us maintain >60% easily. In 3-man div... well... and mind, I am an average (and weekend) player. Indeed. But some might learn a bit from it. Find a clan and learn form eachother, would be a good start, I think.

Nah man. Even for my single braincell it is clear what he put there. The rework was a success objectively. If they weren't for some personally then it's none of WG's issues. Then he sums up why WG thinks it is a success. Most cynically he ends with So have fun hating in something WG is considering a success. @Kriger3n It's pretty clear to me he thinks it's a real good Cleveland Steamer.

I haven;t seen such unicums in a while, please point them out to me. Maybe I forgot (one braincell busy...). I have seen those that perform "sort of OK" in CV and suck in other classes state such, though.

I found that quite funny but true. Actually it reminds me a lot of what is happening today. Not your performance counts. All that have reached the "endline" are considered equal... Even some that tried 20x and finished "in an alternative way". It gets worse. We have some studies here that require a lottery. No dibs for excellent grades given. And as such, you can now be operated upon by a physician who had 5.5/10 but was luckier than the one scoring 10/10. Just so, then you know why I'm at ~50%WR, it is not my fault, they gave me a lobotomy instead of a nose-job.

If they regulate MM to make every team equal WR, then still... it would only balance them in THAT ship or IN GENERAL. In the end, yes maybe everybody would have 50% WR. But that is NOT what is suggested.

The thing is, BBs and cruisers need to understand that when there is a CV in the game, DDs can't cap. So - they have to do it themselves, or at least guard the caps for later. Your part as a DD changes - you protect BBs against other DDs and such, and you do massive damage with those torps. If people fail to change, well they lose their DDs and as such they lose the match. Guess who needs to take care of those radar cruisers... yup, the CV.

I think he means: while everybody is busy "saving stars" at least you do not lose too many credits...

I found that the least problematic. FLAK is reinforced, yes. But also quite avoidable. You mean they lemming all in the same direction and hide behind the same mountain like a cluster-F. That also reinforces AA (even though probably by accident). Sometimes I hit 3 ships with one torpedo load from Kaga. Once I killed two ships ate the same time, I LOLd so hard unplugged the mouse and keyboard fell on the floor.

Now, since you make it stat-related... check your own here: https://wows-numbers.com/player/530821548,HassenderZerhacker/? You seem to be very surprised you got killed by a "47% lexington", your general average is 48%. That player was (generally) only 1% below you. Check your WR in Vasteras. And you have 50 games in that, so it is a significant number of games. Why are you surprised? Is that 47%WR significant, or more like you had a T6 DD (weakest ship in game) and he had a T8 CV (the fattest one)? And what was HIS average in Lexington... BTW my (general) WR is 49.6%. Not like I'm that good. I'm just a very average weekend-pleb. However... dude... div up, or maybe change your playstyle or quit playing those EU DDs. And I think you know it too, your other stats are fine and usually better than mine.

Well this is about Cvs again eh. While the question was, will SUBS counter them... LOL. Well yes and no. CB are like: you HAVE TO kill that DM now, else he shoots our DD. Straight in, whack him! Randoms are like: screw that full HP DM, I'll go and plug torps into that fat half-fried Currywurst that just used his DCP. And I'll take the long way there across that island so he doesn't even see me coming...

Well, if your DD is gonna hunt the CV, it means your team has a CV as well so the spotting doesn't matter. The CV will do that for you no problems there. However... the cap. And the CV-hunter must remain unspotted, because if the target-CV spots him, he is most likely just dead. In my CV I get killed by those maybe 1 out of 25 games. Usually when it is a game we were already losing, so the DD gets to sneak around back. Kudos to the ones that make it all the way anyway. But most I manage to kill before they get a chance.

Fiji for me, if I get myself tempted into that madness. Maybe Hood, it is pretty strong in T7. Helena or Shchors... or give Flint or Lyon a good run, finally.

The other thing is, WG have decided at T4 you can get 3 CVs per side, and on top of that, they gave those CVs (except Hermes) double torps as a buff so yes you see lots of them. At T6 you usually have one CV, double CV is rare. At T8 a lot of the matches have no CV at all. At T10 there's not many CVs. Disadvantage: DDs are the easiest to kill, and some CVs cannot do much more than kill DD. As a result they do not make much credit, and in the higher tiers the "credit service cost" is what ends CV play. But here's the bad thing, when you have T5DD you can meet T6CV and maybe even two of them. And you are the easiest kill so play it smart or you are properly screwed.

CV doesn't need to wait for all DDs to die. DD is a scrawny, little boat that delivers not much points. Rockets on DD: 2-3K. Rockets on BB: 5-6K, and if he gets a fire at least then we get mega-damage. He'll just kill the ones that are stupid: - The ones that run straight to cap (you do not even have to search for them). - AA blazing (6km detection range instead of 2.5). - the ones that are far far away from their buddies, so their AA means nothing. - the ones that smoke up when it is already too late - I know where they sit so I even torp them. - the ones that shoot in smoke, not knowing it means I know where they are in that smoke....

Well last test-phase they weren't THAT slow. And it depends where WG has them spawn at the start.

It does, when you have parked the CV somewhere "safe" and then you are busy busy busy trying to save your lemming potato-team, then there is a DD that has capped, he now finds nothing in front of him, and he has a certain idea where the CV is. USUALLY the CV finds out and goes try to kill the DD (and usually he manages to do it). Sometimes though there is a cruiser, too. And I have even had it it was two DDs and two cruisers. I always compliment them if they manage to kill my CV.

Yelling at you is standard, because everyone wants you (as a DD, or as a CV, or whatever) to do things. But yes sniping the CV is possible, indeed you will not perform the usual DD a tasks. But you can do those too - if any good - take a cap, then proceed through it onto the CV. Get assistance from a teammate in a cruiser or something and you might get him. You'll NOT get him alone unless he is very stupid and his team quite incapable. That said, there is no lack of incapable teams and potato CVs. I think it is likely subs will cause trouble for lots of CVs.

Well there's two reasons: 1. CV can keep hidden, but somehow nobody hunts that very big fat piñata. 2. most CVs do not stay close - this is safer, but it does take flight-time (makes less damage). Not true, really. The CV is a fat large pinata with a soft shell. Any cruiser or DD can do huge damage, a BB can just blap it. However what the CV can do is sort of poke holes with a thin stick. But yes he can poke lots of holes at a long distance. Thing is, most maps have only one (or 2-3) spots where CVs hide. Once subs manage to find their way there, it is gonna be a big problem for most CV players.

Check my WR at T6 (which I play most of the time). I usually play BB or CV and some cruisers. I never play DD because the gameplay is too fast for me. You can see that CV Ryujo has the best WR, this is because it has AP-bombs. But right after, a BB. Big fat slow but hard hitting at long distance. And the bane of BBs is not another BB, it is cruisers that set them on fire constantly - ply us DDs that topr them while remaining unspotted. At T6 you usually have only one (or none) CV. But you always have a few BBs. And you bet those BBs will shoot at that CV when he is spotted, and blow him in half. Unlike tanks the big guys do not slug it out. Instead, one takes the other with ships.

You will find out he is right.

As a player who plays a lot of CV, well no. Not the good player. But they'll not be "the bane" of any good player no matter what ship he has. But for potato-CV, yes they will be a big problem, depending where they spawn. Some CVs have huge detectability, so you better keep them hidden behind an island. And that is where the sub is dangerous, because most maps have only 1 or 2 favourite CV hiding spots. It is not the sub itself that will be the killer though. The sub wil spot the CV, and there are plenty volunteers to take a shot. The few torps from sub are not gonna matter. Fat shells from BB at long distance... yes they will.

Then it can be like: DD spotted by CV can be seen if it is within the detection range of the own ship. Like, on a BB (which is spotted from 14km) he'd see the DD if that DD was at 14km or less. However, the cruiser next to that BB would not see the DD - since the cruiser itself is only spotted at 8km? Wouldn;t be that weird though. In "hurricanes" my teammate spotted a fat BB, and I couldn't see him. I see my teammate shoot at that BB, but I only saw him 1.5 km later.

That is why I say there is other ships better equipped for it. I can do it and if must I will, but hey, it is a meagre measly damage ship, so let others have it. A few seconds dakka from a cruiser will do what takes me five minutes. Better pick some other ship, really. That's the fun eh? It is why I'll hunt DDs with torps, and use the Ark Royal. Those slow planes are a challenge. Other CVs are much easier, especially Japanese. Same here. I get much better winrate when playing with clanmates. But I always want to help them a lot, so damage is lower. In randoms and solo I do loads of damage but well you can't carry these potatoes so... WR is lots lower. CVs now are meant to be damage dealers. I knew someday WG would put them in CB so I try to get good at them. But well, I'm more like cruiser/BB usually (can't play DDs). Except that Ark Royal... that thing is hilarious. If you get a long batlle, you can do really good damage with it. No sinkers though, they'll always "secure" them for you.

So far, well three. one from full HP (torps - and yes he was stupid), one half-HP (he was smart... but not enough) and one "kill secured". And it doesn't matter if they were noob or not - you said it wasn't possible. I also damaged many more. BTW I'm only one or maybe two levels above noob myself... so... Well Shokaku (or Hakuryu) AP-bombs vs Smolensk... if you pay enough sheep to RNGesus you might get lucky. Not that you can't hit Smoll, but well, AP bombs and that thing don't seem to work together. I usually use torps. Much better. T8 (or T10) torps vs Smolly is good. Kaga likes Smolly. Yes that tactic works. BTW 2-2.5km is the range most DDs get spotted with AA off. The reason I only got 3 so far is because usually I don't go hunt them, other ships are better equipped to do so. Usually though I know sort of where he is. If I fly there I'm already on the attack, all I have to do is click once. Also the smart thing to do is wait until he is spotted, and then plan an attack. The smartest way though is to spot HIM, and use F3, let the team spam him to death. Do not spill precious planes on a scrawny DD that might bite. One set of fighters is usually enough...