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Eh. You are sort of pulling that out of your behind, really. I already told I wasn't "wasting time on support". Far from it. If my teammates can kill that DD and do it faster than me, much better. Meanwhile I'll attack that BB that is out to get them. The upped WR in my most played CV should convince you of that, but alas you choose to see that in your own way. Most weird though... pulling a 30% Kremlin out of nowhere is the answer, but anything I say can be ignored. Like why I do worse in Ryujo when teaming up? But well. Thanks for the replies mate. But no sale. You are no teamplayer and will never understand what I mean, I guess. But: At least we have proven we can have a decent discussion even if we don't agree. Yup. I am a Spud-nik. I'm trying to GitGud though. It is sort of working: I know what to do with Ark Royal and will usually outperform the other potato. I'm quite sure that if my div meet somebody that is actually good he'll have a tough time. Indeed I will not give up. Next up is Ryujo and see what I can do with that one. I know it can whack stuff dead lots better. IMO there's a lot of things where he interprets things "because he is better". I think I delivered some valid thoughts. He just repeated what I already learned from the rest here about solo play, nothing new or nailed.

If Freemiums are Ok yes then this. To me: One of the hardest to kill, most annoying, so probably quite good. Which is how I usually pick a good ship...

Because we might learn something from eachother. And we are actually able to discuss, unlike others that make it a shouting match. Take your time, it is not world-threathening. problem is, I am not really a cookie. So far I only really hacked into Ark Royal. I wonder what will happen when I really go for the others. So far I just grinded them and that's about it. LOL. I bet it will be. Don;t worry they haven't released miss Yorkie yet. Damn them.

I think that is one of the fun things in Clan Battle, joining up with people you know. Kinda too bad WG doesn't offer more of that, besides Operations. Would be fun if you could do some sort of "semi clan battle" in Randoms. Make it like Operations but more wrecking and stuff. Have weird regulations. Like every ship has a certain points-count and you can't exceed that. As in, take a CV and all you get for the rest of the team is DDs. then have the surprise the map contains forts and what you need is the CV to bomb those. He can't get them finished with rockets or torps. DD guns won't pen the forts. Or stuff like that. I think Clan Brawls are good but to limited, I'd like to see more of that. Yeah you can do training room but it always gets kinda meh.

Sometimes I think, well the game has more options to stuff up than to go your way, so probably it is just their favourite way of passing time. I know some of those people. I'm sure you know them too. their coffee is either too hot or too cold, or too late or something.

Fail-div with 2x(Omaha, Omaha, Dallas). That will make sure you get 100% in the same game but different teams. All Omaha works 95% but 5% you get on the same team. Ah well, the reds will have fun with 6 floating citadels, then. We never won such a game... (not even when we tried with Kumas...)

Well I was gonna say that will teach him, he'll div up next time, but then realized there are no divs allowed in ranked. So just enjoy the gloating then.

Currently they have a desynch-issue. That means what you see is not what you get. Yamato will get pens on Moskva anywhere at any angle. Only bow-in you can mitigate damage somewhat. And... Yes it sucks heaps. There is no use watching and avoiding shells. Because what you see... is not what is coming. Max damage for Yamato AP shells is 14800 if it hits a citadel. And it sure can do that at that angle. You got 16848 damage. Could be one citadel and one pen on a somewhat saturated rear. Desynch really sucks. You see them incoming, try to avoid but actually you are not avoiding because you can't see.

This is my idea exactly. However he says teamwork will drag me down as a CV. Then I show it to him and he goes "well you are bad". Duh. That is exactly the reason why teamplay is good. Yes, I understand that. It makes sense. Even of you have 3 non-divved 70%ers on one side they'll win harder than alone. Also, if you regularly div up with the same persons you'll know what they do next, and what they want/expect you to do. I hope it does. FWIW even if he'll not get what I mean, you seem to have. And so will others. I'm sure we'll understand each other though. Might take a while. But the important thing is we try and learn.

You need to teach them they need to div up with you if they are online. Else you kill them / make sure their team loses. That will teach them not to do that. I see you did. Good job. Now go tease him in Discord. It's not a cheat. In fact if you do it you have the highest chance of facing eachother, two divs of same tier. MM always wants to divide DIVs equally. You can however make chances even better. Say take 2 divisions of same kind cruisers, 3-2-1 click. You will never get those same cruisers one side. So you all take an Omaha. MM just LOVES equal opportunities. Even funnier, take two FAIl-divisions. Success 99.9% guaranteed. I hope you kicked his butt? Make sure he doesn't forget! DIng ding. It is NOT against the rules. Though I'd call it rather unsporty if you do it with the purpose to get all-clan teams. But the "point of honour" is hilarious. That is what I do as well. Or try to, often they manage to sink ME. Yes it is. I got one a few weeks ago, I was in CV. Alas I only saw it was him when I gave the last blow. Yes he will div up next time... Well he was grinding his T6 and I was grinding T8, so we could not div up but it was hilarious anyway.

The submarines were not skillable at all, and they didn't have any upgrades. They came "as they were" and with captain skills already there and pre-set. Yippeeeeeee. I'm looking forward to it what I can actually do with ARk Royal, among others. Test server didn't give premium ships. Also there were mostly B0ts and if you took a surface ship well you might be the only one. Yes they will get into randoms no matter what, I think you are right. I do hope they learn form this "separate game mode"because the "public test" had waaayyyy too many b0ts. Positive is that they do it this way (better than directly, like Reework) so they MIGHT learn a bit before they slap it into GP. However... the way the Reeework CV ended up I'm not having high hopes.

Kinda weird. I think one "reasoning" deserves one answer. If I'd do it like you I have no idea. For example, where does the "6" part refer to? Ah wel. We are getting there. But no. I have shown you that with my most relevant CV (500 games...) I do better in divisions. It is relevant if you are good. But the thing is, you have very little division games. 38 games in Midway, rest less. 3 div 74%, 2div 50%, solo 70,8%. For Kaga 61-57-77. It doesn't make much sense with those numbers. Uhhh. One less potato means WR goes down, two les means WR goes up? Given the amount of games, it's just gambling and can't be proven. Logically it makes sense though. But given how good you are, it is kinda weird that I get to 70% as well. I know all that. It's not relevant. Ahem... your stats are BEST OF T6... it is your best WR. Ryujo 67,5 - Furious 62,5-Ranger 52- Ark Royal 50%. ^^^ I guess you need to take a look and then reconsider what is the joke. Ryujo has better WR than Hakuryu. What joke? I've gotten better. Will GitGud, someday. Why do you have the idea of "useless support" anyway? I do not give useless support. We work together to finish as many of the reds as we can. Since WR goes up, it can't be useless support. Duh. There is a difference between Ark Royal and Ryujo. I think you have noticed it too. Which one do you think will get more damage/kills. I'll tell you then. Ark Royal gets the most damage. Never gets kills (well, sometimes). It is a challenge to do well in it, especially with weekend-ROFLSTOMPS. Sometimes I get less than 25k because of ROFLSTOMP (win or lose no matter). On an average game 75-100k. But I can't stop a ROFLSTOMP. Ryujo does get the kills. It gets them more or less instantly. However it gets less damage. It is also less challenging which is why I don't play it often. But you can pull harder in Ryujo so I used it a bunch of times to introduce newbies. Which is why WR sinks like a brick in those divs. And there's another thing - you started out by saying you do not care much for stats. And then you started pulling stats. Now you think I did very good in Ryujo. You did about the same. And you say you just used it to grind to Hakuryu. What do you think I did... Here's (in fat print) the thing you assume wrong. That's why I say start with a clear head. You assume I div up with two 70% players. Heres the stats of my clan: https://wows-numbers.com/clan/500163086,BBMM-Beer-Belly-Master-Mindz/ and those I usually div up with. So all of us are more or less ~50%, teamwork is a thing. And I do not mean I try to save them or anything. In your case, you will get >65% and your teammates will as well. So, if you all work independently, you will get even more as a division. Simple, because even if you were not in a division and you'd end up with two random 65% players you'd win more often. I get that. So for you it doesn't matter (much) if you are in a division or not. But you can't show it much, as you do not have many div-games. Those that you do have don't show much WR improvement. But I understand the theory. For me, teamwork gives a definite bonus in WR. I think it works. And yes it costs me some damage. But only a bit. The damage it costs is when my divvies finish off the ship and I go search for next victim. Sometimes I help them but I also gain from that. Though not as much as when I'd be farming a big fat BB. But the return is I can count on them to help and not run behind an island. So we win. We also "focus fire", which means they'll get the advantage - I'll drop on a ship and make fire, he uses DCP. Guess who farms faster. Because I pointed them to the fact he used DCP. If I do not, it is me that will set the perma fire, but hey. We win more because it doesn't get wasted as usual in randoms. That sort of stuff is what I call teamwork, and it is damn useful.

I love Hood but if it gets uptiered you are in the.... (lotsa smelly brown stuff). If you can exploit some of the things it does well, yeah then it is good. However this means you have to be good, and be lucky to get the right opportunity. What you'd want is some ship that is always able to do OK. What you want is some sort of clone of a ship you like and do good in. Since your stats are hidden there's really no way to tell. Watch which ships are annoying as hell so must be good, I always say. But depends if you like them / are any good with that class most of all. They could give me the most OP DD and I'd still suck heaps, hate it and make bad money. Give me a slow, fat BB anyday.

I know you like detailed. It is a bit hard for me to read it back because you use numbers and do not quote. I can't be exactly sure what part you are reacting to. Well. Obviously if you want to be the best CV, and if you have the talent for it, you need to do as you do. But that's not the point. Firstly, it is beyond my possibility as you are way better. Secondly, it is not purely about being the best CV, but about CV-teamwork. Which you say is not relevant, and I try to show you it is quite relevant if you are not that good. Hey mate. I'm not that good - and I don't mind. I'm quite savvy and I'll outplay the average. But I will NEVER get a decent WR in Ark Royal in weekends unless I do teamplay. Because simply, I cannot carry hard enough to make that difference, it needs DoT. I need longer games to do any actual meaningful damage, and doesn't have the alpha to stop a ROFLSTOMP. I'm not disagreeing with you on this point. CVs are broken. Means if a good player gets his hands on it, they are OP AF. Also - it is not even the point. And no I'm not telling you to consider that point. And THAT I agree, really. We do not disagree that WG have FFd it up. We also agree why WG thinks it is "all fine". We both think nope. There is no dispute there. Well, there's plenty plenty potatoes. But actually, what is a potato then if I am out-damaging them with 25%? For me it is NOT between the CVs. I will in 75% of the games outdamage the other CV. But to win, I need to team up. My potato team will beat that solo unicum. Yes the CV will outdamage me. But he will lose. I am NOT telling you you play them wrong. Read it again - you are playing them MUCH better than me. Doesn't mean I am crap though. However this is also about TEAMPLAY. Which you say you aren't even doing when in a CV. SO, how do you even know it works for the average guy or not? YOU are saying there is no use for a CV in teamplay. And I am pointing you out there is - if you aren't very good (as in: good like you). The underlined is BS. I get 70%WR in division. Your highest is 67.5 in Ryujo. Around 50% in Ark Royal. Your highest damage in Ark is ~80K, mine is 136k. Highest in Ryujo is ~127, mine is 116k. The longer the game, the more damage. Fact is that I get higher WR while divisioning than you get when solo. And THAT is the point I am trying to explain to you. I'd not say I struggle. 25% more damage solo than average. But hey. Compared to you the difference is clear. You're the better player. But this is not why you do well, I don't knoiw why you do. O know why my numbers are like that though. Haven't really grafted most CVs and I am a slow learner. I need some GitGud. Part of it is that I usually play on weekends. You get lots of ROFLSTOMPS, both ways. And win or lose I can;t get much damage in, in Ark Royal. Ryujo is better. I have >500 games in Ark Royal though so I'd say I know what is sort of possible. Someday I'll make 200k+. No doubt. I'm a bit above average - which is fine for a weekend player. You are like Usain Bolt. I'm the quite untalented local running man. Doesn't mean I don't know anything. A division slows you down, they might even decrease your damage if they are quite good. As in: Take your kills. It does help me though. I'm not sure you are able to interpret those results. I'd say 64% in Ryujo isn't much below yours, improving as I learn slowly. You seem to make of it what you want it to be as well,, I only played a few divs in Ryujo ( (7 in 2, and 3 in 3... and I know with which players). But that's beside the point. However good you are. Say take your Ryujo and your 67.5%. My potato division will still kick your butt with 70%. Well maybe not - but maybe now you'll get the idea. Come down from the hill unicorn, the three teamworking hippos will defeat you. Actually that is more a matter of talent, really. I'm usually slow. Can't play DDs worth a damn. Maybe you should look at the results and see them with a clear mind. I'm not that good. Divving up helps, both me and my divmates. You are quite good. you say teamwork doesn't help you at all. And this is the point: is teamwork worthless for any CV, no matter good or not? Then why are your numbers going down when you are in division, unless you are ignoring them? It is because teamplay doesn't bring YOU any good. It does bring me a few boons, and teammates too. For you, yes. For me it means a little bit less damage, but much higher WR. I still usually outdamage the red CV by a landslide, no problem there. This is the point indeed. My teammates do not have 70%WR, nor do I. But together we can do it. Obviously there may be a difference. Once you're very good, it may no longer pay off. But... I still beat the other CV, AND we have higher winrate. Which is why I support the idea that teamwork DOES WORK in CVs. It may cost a bit of damage output. But it increases WR by a lot. This sure is true. And I do, in a 1vs1 game. I'll be selfish and farm damage. I'll even let the game drag out longer and farm some more. I'm still saying you do not quite understand. But I highlighted the point. Think about it. That is the point. Not that you are better in CVs than me, which is fact. The point is, I do better in divs. Teamwork DOES work for me. In Ark Royal I make 25% more damage solo than others. However i cannot make enough damage to get over 50% WR. Maybe YOU can make that much damage, but i cannot. Therefore, divving up works for me (and my teammates). Almost 70% WR. Get a clear mind. This is not about how good YOU are in a Cv. This is about if teamwork with a CV will work or not.

Seriously when in a CV-div with my clanmates and it is a 3vs6, it is do-able. Because that they haven't stuffed it up so far that it is lost already. Given time, it can be done. Because CVs are indeed OP. Forget it though if all are in surface vessels. Hey I also assume the six others do not contain "any of the usual suspects". Because then it is a miracle we are not already dead.

The best or the easiest? I'd say take KAGA. (yes I know go to Gulag)

Yeyeye we all know who that "the right player" is. I'd think he'll have no problem with a 3vs10 situation, especially not if you and some other well-known forumite are the other 2.

We can disagree,. In the end I already said you'd see it otherwise, as you are a much better player. I do not agree with that at all. A good CV imo does what is needed to win the game. Which may sometimes be just farming damage. And you are better off not ignoring the team. What they do (or don't do) means you can pick up the slack or profit. But if you are in a div, you'll do better working together even in a CV. Yes I think those games are possible without any support. Also I do not understand why this is proof. Fact is: That damage is not really big... the kills are. Team help? I have seen it done people spamming HE from long range and then getting 7 kills on ships that were low as FF. Not saying you did that here, of course. But if you think 135K in a T9 Bb is fitting that 7 kills... lots of finish-offs, probably. Doesn't mean your teammates were working with you. I can't really say from 135k and 7 kills. Could have been they all potatoed in a Lemmking and you were going the other way and finished off everything. Now how would that be "great help". So, explain. You underestimate the importance of other ships to the CV. Maybe because you're good, I dunno. Here is what I am trying to tell you, get down a bit from that high pedestal and take a look at potato weekend life. If they do not stop an attack, you will have a hard time stopping it before they get you. Especially in something that depends on DoT like Ark Royal. IJN CV, not so much (blap happens a lot). Yeah kills are rare in some CVs. Especially if you come in with slow planes, and you are spotting that low-health target all that time, guess what. You only get to kill him if nobody else can reach him and that is when you should kill him, else just spot him and let a teammate finish him. Most kills I ever managed in AR was 4. It usually happens when there are no other ships left, then I have to (or can) start killing them. I'm not saying i don't bomb that cruiser (cause I will). I think blapping that cruiser will do more good for my DD that those "protective fighters". That is not what it is about. The thing was about the fighters. And note that if I have teammates, one will be in the cap - and the other one will also be farming that cruiser. I'm saying that it is usually more useful to drop a fighter where it spots. Giving a DD aircover - well, usually not so much, indeed. But I do not think we disagree much here though. They can see the map just as fine as me though. And indeed I can go from right to left in a minute or so. And then I can deliver some presents. However they can deliver presents much faster, albeit in a shorter distance. If my DD divvy is in torpedo reach of a BB, I have no problems dropping torps to that BBs rear (he'll usually go straight...) and alerting my DD... The game is rarely between two CVs though. I mostly end in top 3-5. The other CV is much lower on the results ladder. That says to me I outdid the other CV, win or lose. No problems there. But actually I meant you decide if you drop fighters on a teammate if they are useful, not if they are a douche. For example I will not drop fighters on a Currywurst that thought he should go forward alone and now gets torped from 3 directions. Because he is a douche and fighters cannot help him. You may. As a really good player, you have a different viewpoint from where I am sitting. I have no problems with you being blunt. But I'll be blunt as wel. Look beyond your better CV-skills and don;t get stuck in "I am the better player".. I am an average dude and play mostly in weekends. I cannot carry 11 potatoes in Ark Royal. However I can do 48k average damage while the average is 38k. I end up higher than the other CV 99% of the games Perhaps you should check the other CVs as wel. And as far as ships go, I am an average player. It can't be a surprise. But I think you're a bit wrong. I am quite savvy as a CV player though not as good as you.. And yes my dmg drops. Because I help my divvies to achieve goals. So WR goes up, both for me and my divvies. Also means I usually do not get any kills (I leave it upto them). I'll also be blunt mate. It means you're not that good a teamplayer. This is not about who is the best CV player. It also means you are BS as you're surely putting stats Ï am the better CV player" in front as to claim you are right. You should also have a re-read. I'm not mocking you or the people that you are in division with. I'm joking about it. In fact I'm quite sure you and the peeps that you division with are quite good, probably all 70%. But it is obvious your teamplay sucks, and you are now pulling CV-stats to claim you are correct. Lets pretend what? Tadaaa and again, I'm not advising you how to play CV. You are clearly better. Also, you can hardly call it "flaunting" when I put those stats. I'm pointing out to you that, even in CV, teamplay IS A THING that can make you perform better. I'm thinking here somebody has a big obvious problem where it comes to teamplay. Also I'm not saying CVs should be overpowered or whatever, because they're bad enough. That is where you are wrong. I'll put it bluntly then. Are you that guy @El2aZeR means when he says "the guy in a group project that never shows up to meetings, refuses to communicate with any group members and in the end depending solely on his own level of competency either delivers stunning results or drags the whole group down." Which would explain why you do no better (OR WORSE) in a group than alone, except if you behave like aforementioned guy. I am not that guy. I do better in a group, because we help eachother. Maybe you should look better. Solo stats in IJN CVs look fine. Haven't really dug into Hakuryu yet (just to spade it for CB). I'm not challenged at all. For example I sort of went ASAP to Kaga when it was announced that CB would have Cvs. Didn't have the greatest games... because helping others to grind ships. Actual teamwork, not treating them like they were other randoms. I play to have fun, preferably with some friends, and someday somehow I'll get good, listening to tips and tricks. Though you can indeed farm harder in some CVs than in others. Yes it is. You are acting like you do not understand. Empty words and catchphrases, indeed. I do believe the CV should call the shots, mostly. But not that he should be a dictator. So of course I do not shove candles up their rear. Then I guess there is no use explaining if you think you do better if you treat your divvies like just another couple of randoms. Actually, that is only true if he can also "outkill" the rest of the enemy team, or (in weekends) outkill the suiciding teammates. You won't make it, not even with your stats. I've seen better ones and they can't do it either. Note that El2azer has a WR of 80% in his Enty. Which means that 20% of the game either his team potatoes so hard he can't keep up, or the enemy team still outkills him. I think the enemy CV outkilling him can be assumed not to be the case. So, even he cannot outkill the enemy CV, PLUS the enemy team, PLUS compensate suiciding teammates. If he is in div(3) then his WR goes to a whopping 90%. Obviously... division matters. And then there is you, that says he does WORSE in divisions unless he treats his divvies as randoms. That's just you trying to be spiteful. But go ahead and farm harder, if you think that as "teamplay". Let me remind you this is not about who is the better CV-player, there is no doubt that is you. However it doe not mean you have any idea about teamplay. You state yourself, there is no teamplay. When I put numbers that there definitely is, you come with "better CV player". That's no proof mate. And as said, you look at it from a standpoint of being very good. And probably it is as some say, those that are unicum fail to understand how others see it. or do you?

Well I agree on the CV thing. That is absolutely nonsense. IMO it was meant for CB and yes the wonen-and-booze thing definately plays a part. But I've seen WG do more stupid stuff. Their marketing CEO must be under the influence. There's much better things to be done that how they do it now. For example 80% of the submarine test server was bots. You could get some meagre flags and stuff or playing there and do missions. Simply better if they had made it so you could earn respecs by playing surface ships on the test-server or something. If you want cannonfodder you'll have to pay them, no?

What they should have done is have a "respec"button or whatever. That one you earned for participating in CB or ranked and it would give a free respec if used. This way EVERYBODY got free respecs, no matter if they even had T10 ships or took part in the ranked events. No offence but if people say it is meant for CB or whatever then peeps that play Co-op only... well... should they get it too?

I see this thing, but I do not agree. And, there you name it, where I see the difference. Yes a good DD and a good BB. However a bad DD and bad BB do not become ineffective - for themselves. I see plenty BBs that hang around back spamming HE, and well, in the end they move in - and they end up on top of teamlist scoring highest XP. Same thing (and you have enough experience to know how) with DDs and cruisers. Also, I 'd argue a good CV does take one for the team, spots where needed and such. Not really true. The team can kill the other CV far more effectively than the CV can. Yes I know some really good CV players do not need the team. But that is hardly the case most times. And in other ships those really good players carry the team anyway - getting 6, 7 kills and twice as much XP as the rest. Do THEY really need the team... Yes - but same as a BB having to knock out a cruiser, that is already burning, before that cruiser wrecks his DD. He exposes himself by firing at a worthless target. It is making his game worse, too. In fact it is a very poor example, as the first thing about it is if it doesn't DRAW THE ENEMY to the DD.... But I never do it anyway, I believe "fighters" are more useful as spotters. That DD can smoke up. My fighthers won't save him. but they will rpovide him with a view of the cruiser that he smoked up for, so he can farm him. Well what exactly is the difference, as all other players should also look at the map. And act according to that. Granted, not many of them do... I'd say it is more like the others are playing Mario Kart and you are the one dropping banana peels and stuff. But that doesn't mean you cannot decide to help a certain player (and the team) to win. But you drop the banana peel on the adversary of the one player that can make the difference. You do not drop the banana peel needlessly or on player that is a total douche. I don't see it that way. You musty be doing something wrong. have a look at my stats in Ark Royal (they're so much that they are actually relevant). There you see what happens in division. https://wows-numbers.com/player/552033702,BLUB__BLUB/ You see the damage goes down, but WR goes up. What you do NOT see is that the damage is far more regular. In randoms, when I play solo, I can get 15k because it is a ROFLSTOMP (win or lose) and I do not have much control over it. I also can get 80-90-100K (and it can still be win or lose). The average is 48% WR but well, weekends usually. Can't carry that hard with Ark Royal. Mind that I am an average player - and so are most of my divvies. We MUST cooperate else we do not win at all. Maybe your division mates are shite. No I think they are not, but there is a good chance they get lazy. "CV go kil that DD". "Spot this for me". Yeah right. That is not how it is supposed to work, IMO. Well at least you have detected the problem... Here's how I see it: YOU are in CV, you should be the one leading your team and not your team leading YOU. It is YOUR JOB telling them which way is safe and what to do. YOU need to help them win the game, together. You are not here as their slave to let them farm, you are there as a teammate and together you should farm as much as you possibly can and get the win. I like Ark Royal, but mostly because I think it is a challenge (I want to do highest damage in that thing ever). Somebody here said if you wanted to do well in that thing you'd actually need to GitGud. So I said I'd but it first day and GitGud (I know... takes me longtime...). Rest of the CVs, yes I play them but MY DIVMATES are the reason I play them. They know if I'm in CV they have a reasonable CV-player. Because if we go random and we get a potato vs a red "reasonable one" we are screwed. THIS actually is a (THE?) problem. It is also why I have T10CVs. Usually I do not play T10. But I will get them, and GitGud (well... somewhat) so when needed I can do it for the clan. Because I knew WG would stick them into CB. I don't like it at all so I'll only enlist for CB when they ask me, really. So that we have a chance to win and teammates can gather some steel. Our WHOLE CLAN is made from ~average players. We actually HAVE TO work together to get a result. I don't know that game... but sounds like CV-fun. Teamplay is what you make it. You must remember though that you are a VERY GOOD player. Frankly if we (average Joes) can do 70% in T6 I don't see how you do not get 100% WR when having 3 div-mates... This also makes your vision on stuff different than the Average Joe. Though most of times you are correct. As it is (I have played the test server, too - and with CV, DD, CL and subs) it looks like fun. I will CERTAINLY be playing the "special submarine mode" because even on the test server it was mainly B0ts. But we went in there with divisions and yeah it was good fun. However remains to be seen what happens when it "goes live"and I have no doubt WG will dump it into general population. And since we know how they do balance...

Well, actually it was "specially for CB" so I never understood why it was for ALL CAPTAINS. This complaining is actually kinda weird to me. It was over-generous to begin with, really.

I think you'll love it though. My DD mate (and you know who) thinks it is hilarious blapping subs. On a side note I never have trouble respeccing captains. I have plenty 19 pointers that collect Elite Captain XP. I put them on all my favourite ships and then use them on the premiums as well.

See, here's the point that I don't agree with you - but sort of do at the same time. You say that the CV is NOT part of the team, and say it is only there for self-interest. I fail to see that in two ways: - In what way is his self-interest different from the group, which is to kill the enemy, drive them before you and hear... AKA to win? - I don't see any other teammates being reliable... or vice-versa. The goal of the CV is to harvest damage and grief the other team, and yes indeed they can and will do this. Also, in the real-life anology this is similar for other players than the CV. When you have no CV there's always one (or two, or three) of those too. Like, bumholes will be bumholes and if they have the most powerful ship then yeah that is what happens. But I agree there is too much influence still If you get a potato-CV vs unicum CV there is no doubt which side will do better and win.

Wel... I have Amalfi now, so far just T7/T8/T9. Seems to me WG fixed T8MM... by screwing over T7. I even got a mainly T6 match which felt kinda filthy. Yes, I got the regular 1667 shots (one pen), sometimes 3320 (two pens...)... with Amalfi however one shot is usually 5k or 6k. That is one tier up, but LOTS more damage. And it is not me that has become better... it definitely is the ship... Pray to not get spotted. Because you cannot asstank with it, you can't get away. I found that Amalfi can. Also it is 5kts faster. Is though. Try the "new" ranked. T7, 7vs 7 and actually it is a lot like randoms. I grinded out the Zara in ranked... as it is T7 vs T7. Easy 60-70-80K games. My verdict: it is pretty strong in T7 but uptiered it is mega-crap.