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we had this thread so often already that you could have just searched for "CV spotting" instead of creating your own.

The more ways one can utilize them in the better anyway right?

Thats the best way to find out anyway. Glad I found out rather quickly that you are already set on an opinion before going into big detail in text and about the many possible scenarios including pepega sub players up to players like El2a and how they would behave and why you would have a hard time countering it. You have to understand that describing it accurately and honestly is really a thing taking a lot of time and effort. And I don't really feel like doing it around people who believe that half of the info is inaccurate or useless. I hope you find out yourself how hard and if you improve on it.. how easy it becomes to dominate in a sub

To many what ifs, but I have 2 replays I can explain to you with great examples of how Me alone and in another me and my divmates dealt with a sub. To do it in text will take forever, So I would offer you a personal VC between us with me streaming the replays for you and explaining in detail why we or I did what we did and you can ask questions more dynamically. You can tell me your discord ID if you are up for that

nice alt account. I wonder how long it took you to create it after you deleted your main

well and this is where you are wrong as clearly WG is using his PC and his disc space right now to store all the money on his hard-drive they are laundering as no bank wants to accept to store it for them. So his PC is the temporary space they use. if only he knew he could take it all for himself.

you think someone who thinks 64gb of disk space is because WG is doing things without his permission on his PC knows what net neutrality means?

and even all those actions which were much more effort, much larger in scale it didn't do anything about the broken state of CVs and now we even get super CVs, Hybrid BB lines and soon support CVs. Even with all this the community was powerless and now they expect to have anything to say with 1/10 of the effort about subs? Its laughable. you didn't refute the "subs are toxic to gameplay" and even if you tried you wouldn't be able to. Because sadly for the party that argues that it's a subjective feeling. It's like saying "its not fun" and that is fully subjective and therefore totally irrelevant and a powerless argument

What im offering you is to understand that WG wants you to think the way you do, to come here to this forum to express yourself as you do as then you are locked. You will be locked into thinking that they simply are bad boys, that you talking on their forum, their controlled platform about them will stay mostly here, the energy you invest happens in their courtyard while they serve you "drinks and a cake" (by not moderating). WG wants you to waste that energy you have against them here instead of investing the same energy in other activities not tied to them. The more you participate even if in a negative way the better for them as you interact with them, within a small controlled group of people. Wake up and go past that, understand that WG is manipulating you right now and that they want you to if not play the game, use your time to complain about the game. Bette than you using the time you spend here on other games and on spending on other games or activities. The more energy you leave here complaining the less you have to research ways of actually fighting the root issue which is the normalization of predatory monetization EVERYWHERE. Yes WG being lesser evil is still evil. But evil is being normalized right now in this moment and fighting the single brach that is WG won't hurt the whole tree and its roots which you should be looking at instead

the issue I have is that you assume to much good in people and companies. The times of "players first" are long gone. You are considered not a player but a ressource and if you pay then you are a paying ressource. Once you understand that position and it's more realistic view and then try to think with the eyes and practices the harvesters in this case these companies employ only then you will kind of be able to understand that your morals are used against you and that you being upset is not an obstacle at all. You are being used to monetize the game even if you dont pay by being an opponent to players who will after losing to you feel the need to upgrade somehow. Basically even while protesting as long as you participate in any way you help them achieve their goals. And they have very detailed numbers about their goals and how well they are currently doing. WG is releasing new content with such confidence that it should at some point start to make you wonder "Am I actually overlooking something? What is it that makes them so confident?" You have to look at other more successful companies than WG who do even worse things to their gaming communities to understand that WG is one if the better ones. And that is only possible if you are willing to look past optimistic hopes. You have to go and observe from all angles.

Do you see the general tone of this forum? Its so difficult to find people who want to discuss and talk in a more relaxed way that one assumes a more aggressive stand by default. And with that said if you are truly interested then you will try to find the information yourself and present evidence of claims yourself instead if asking others without clarifying to well and then criticizing them when they get annoyed that they have to do this work for you. Of course I will be replying to you in an annoyed manner.

principles are worthless though right here as clearly the ones behaving like drug addicts wanting their coupon fix will spend that money once it comes anyway. Just read the thread back. The desperation of people wanting that coupon is leaking so much that it looks ridiculous as if a documentary movie script. WG doesn't give you promised coupon for at least a month now. Yes its bad business. But where are the consequences? There are none. Literally none. Its only a handful of people complaining about it too. So barely anyone is missing those coupons. edited

If you want such a detailed look then only WG has the numbers. But you can clearly see effects of covid in the overall playernumbers which cant be denied therefore you dont need to see it in absolute detail as such a spike as covid hits provides the proof in itself that it was the cause. To deny this would be a little weird as we can also easily spot spikes during anniversary, Christmas, holidays and falls after all those events. Its very consistent. So you asking for very detailed numbers is at this point just trying to dig out that one thing you can actually attempt to attack. Covid ending of course leads to numbers falling as did a certain political event. You can see that in the overall numbers very clearly happening on the appropriate dates. Look it up yourself. Statistics can be manipulated after all and i dont want you to accuse me of doing it

we are talking about player numbers aren't we? Don't move the goalposts pls

Exactky. You can't compare them at all as Malta influences the game far differently. Nakhimov is great when delivering alpha "shock" damage that forces a target to retreat most times right after they recieve it to recover but Nakhimov is hindered by targeted players options to mitigate that alpha easily if they aren't pressured by Nakhis teammates. Malta does far more consistent damage to most targets like the other CVs but with the gimmick of being able to do critical damage to very select ships and therefore influence them with fear aura. Its far different in effect. However Malta since its more consistent in target selection and regardless of situation in damage output Malta by itself is more valuable for a match regardless of shiptypes encountered compared to Nakhimov

you can actually check the numbers yourself but whatever

I mean what is supposed to happen anyway? Another "Wallets closed" threat? Its hilarious how they still think they have any power to threaten WG

Yeah it increases the skill floor by a lot. of course many don't like that as they simply can't commit. Im quite happy with that tbh.

its fine since you are still playing the game it has your full support :)

you are wrong with this as Midway is superior over US simply because of the legendary mod + consistency of always having her torps available. A super CV might be good at farming but when it comes to having influence it is inferior. Also lack of armored deck is a major weakness. So solo WR in super CV is harder to achieve because less influence simply put. Its more impressive though. If you play it like a Midway aka playing to win - DD killing role you will eventually run out if the only planes you can reliably do that with and then be stuck farming Kurfürst or other nonsense. If I had the choice to fight super CV with my t10 CVs I would always prefer my t10 CVs

You are better off searching YT instead if asking for advice here. I would love to give it but my advice will be shut down by the "can't do anything" defeatists. There are sources out there that help you and if you are reasonably experienced and understand simple game principles you would be able to put 1+1 together. However it is true that aiming to counter a sub fromt start is bad. You need to be aware of the game situation and where the sub possibly will want to attack at all times only then you can even start to counter. Its complicated and needs a lot of explaining. There is no "Do x and you win" solution.

damn that's really tragic that all you guys can't play randoms anymore. I can't find you there then :(

Thank you very much, have a great weekend. I hope you enjoy subs just as much as I do

I dont remember having those 5 years ago LOL