Yosha_AtaIante

exactly. We agree with each other now. I also agree that low tier ships need help. There are a lot of problems with CVs. We sadly need to be more patient though because rushing things will only lead to make things even worse.

Let me clarify my stance to you. In my opinion CVs are not fixable, they will always be either to powerful or to weak. As CVs currently are in the hands of a great player CVs are way to influential. Even if you removed the spotting a CV would still be to powerful. However if you make them weaker so that they are, in a very good players hands acceptable then they are to difficult to play for everyone else which will lead to the CV not being played anymore. Because of this WG can not risk making them to weak. The problem is that there are to many bad players in CV which even makes WG consider to help those players out if we get unlucky by buffing CVs. So my stance is that we need to work with the ideas of WG because they have the power over where CVs will go and provide experience backed suggestions to help them make CVs weaker but without killing the class. This is a near impossible task. CVs will not be removed so saying to remove them doesn't help. WG stated that they are working on a solution about spotting so spotting will also not get removed so asking for that doesn't help. Therefore I am against meaningless suggestions of "remove this remove that it's so easy and so on". The only option we have is either accept to suggest reasonable solutions that work without killing CVs / buffing CVs or to stop playing the game.

Where do you get this idea from? Did you actually know that WG is currently testing a spotting rework proposal that I suggested?

Can you not do math? I have 5k Battles in CVs and 16k in total which means? 11k battles in the other ship classes including subs. And no, you are completely wrong. I actually support the idea of nerfing CVs i just view it objectively unlike you. What is the point? Is my opinion not valuable because I play CVs? By that logic El2aZeRs opinion is also completely invalid and to be discarded. Did you actually know that I agree with El2aZers takes and that we simply have different means of viewing WG?

no thank you. I would rather believe in my experience with CVs and the interaction with them that I collected in 5k CV battles which is 5k times more experience than your amount of absolute 0. You literally didn't play a single battle in CVs to even understand how they work and I'm obviously talking random battles as coop doesn't matter for balancing

that us just an assumption. Assumptions don't necessarily lead to truths. There are reasons as in Lesta/WG split for the merge and the split is not because of panic but because of world events. Tbh I don't want to debate assumptions with you at all. We can go what if endlessly and not be closer to the truth ever

and thats why it takes so long. Its really hard to find a solution to this problem. The current state of CVs can easily be totally broken into both extremes. Achieving a balance is in my opinion next to impossible

The issue is that its your subjective view that the game is not good. There would be far less players if the game wasn't good, WG wouldn't make money if the game wasn't good. Currenrly the game is still played just as much as usual. It is apparently good for quite a lot of people. WG can use this as a basis. So yes you might think its not good but that's your view. I personally like the game. I agree there are problems but those problems don't make the game bad to me. As you can see our views about the game are conflicting so who should WG listen to? The answer is none of us. They will follow their statistics. Which is fine if you think that way but it's more complicated than just what you propose they do. Did you know btw that your opinion has been said and stated countless of times already on top of that? Why do you think WG hasn't acted on it yet in all those years?

if you dont trust WG why do you turn to them with suggestions and ideas if you know that they are liars anyway who always do wrong? Why would you ask someone who always does wrong to do something right? No im just pointing out the problems that others don't consider and I have to point out that WG has their own plans. They will and they showed this for 4 years now since the rework not abandon those plans so we HAVE TO assume that they will continue with those and therefore we have NO CHOICE besides either working with WGs views or abandon the game. You can of course continue to voice your opinion and I will continue pointing out how mostly worthless your views are and no parroting others opinions doesn't make it stronger

btw i just noticed this. Don't you see how dangerous it is to point that out and make the comparison? Yes you are telling WG "Look you tried to fix skillgap with rework but not only did you break CVS but skillgap still isn't fixed, look how you failed!" Am I assuming right? Now if you say that what WG would do instead of admitting to it they would say: "Well thanks for pointing out this issue, this just means we need to make it even easier so let us buff CVs so that plane bad player can perform a bit closer to what El2aZeR can do!" Do you really want to provoke them to take this step? Because obviously as you should know by now they are balancing not after the best players performance but around the average. So the only logical step in WGs view would be to buff CVs. Be careful what you indirectly ask for

I know that they dont want to remove spotting because they said on their devblogs as sera also said that they are looking into different ways to adjust spotting. This is not me making it up. Do your own research. Just shows how much you truly care besides being upset about it

it won't. But WG doesn't want to remove spotting. You have to work with what they want to do. So anything they try besides removing it will possibly break CVs more. Doesn't this make sense to you?

honestly. Looking at your game experience and your stats you can not even come close to judge this. You have not even the slightest grasp of how CVs work, interact with other classes and the game and why it is highly difficult to adjust them. So your views in this are beyond irrelevant sorry to say. With people like you that lack all knowledge trying to tell WG whats supposed to be easy I can even more sympathize with them having to dig deep within all this garbage that is being said to find one right idea or opinion. So please try not to obscure the truth with your wrong assumptions

honestly adjusting CVs without breaking them further is so difficult that its very likely that especially something like spotting is highly difficult to do correctly or rather adjust correctly. I mean if you want, they could just rush it as they did the rework and deliver another broken mess. It looks like you really ask for it Give them the time they need to make it right and if you don't believe they can anyway then stop asking them. Clearly they are to incompetent for your liking

I'm looking forward to your testing of the cone spotting idea. I think it was the most recent information we got

sorry forgive me for derailing then

you will reach the wrong people. Most great CV players are not active on the forum. But we share the opinion and wirh that I mean all of the great CV players I know do, that CVs don't need any buffs. That poll is honestly meaningless. Most agree that CVs are broken. However this matters little. Its 4 years now that the CV rework is basically in the same state. Changes were made yes but the best still perform just the same. The skill is being rewarded by being massively OP. As long as only very few stay as such no buffs or nerfs will happen.

Bravo im sure they will change the game to your liking any moment now

Just specify it next time as I always view ships for their utility in pvp. Bots are way to easy to beat anyway, any ship will do

I agree. CV should be able to fight subs manually. Stop making it so easy for CVs WG.

the biggest issue is that most CV players simply are to bad and because of that WG doesn't see a need to fix it

I think Massa has even worse dispersion and shorter range though. Being a Ncar sidekick Alabama can still do its job well enough. If everything was meta then everything would be boring at some point anyway

its also highly maneuverable. I really like that ship even though she had better times.

it very likely will. If you register your birthday for the first time then not but if you change it it will only apply a year later on most platforms

pressure? what pressure? You are going on the wall of posts devs will smirk at while walking past to their desk.