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CVs are easier to play, more accessible and have less alpha strike and less influence due to reduced controlled squad number. Nothing changed huh.

@DFens_666 I get your point, that the class in itself has as much influence on both teams. But this influence is merely giving a change of playstyle. You might lile that change or not but it can certainly be worked against and of course a 80% winrate player who mastered the class should have the privilage to capitalise on it by even being able to spread his influence over accurate counterplay no? It's at this point not the class that is op but the player who managed to become op

So does ever other bad member on your team regardless of class, your point?

This is your typical average player trying to learn the new CV which is more accessible then old rts. He struggles and is not happy. Does he have much influence? He is going to be your average CV player you need to look at not the likes of me or El2aZeR or even the number 1 spot on EU. It's not like you are against unicum CVs ruining your day every game. You are more likely to find a unicum BB player ruining it. What did the rework ruin with having a player like him on the enemy team?! Think about the averages not how the ocassional Unicum ruins your day. @ghostbuster_ Still havent provided any proof and trying to make me look like a fool? Looks like you simply don't have any, would have been easy for someone as passionate as you are to provide proof to your claims if it existed right? Obviously we now bove know it does not is why you dont have any and resort to your trolling

If a team pairs their ships up accordingly it's extremely hard to get worthwhile strikes in. Yes i can get thst strile but i will likely lose all my planes. Players like El2aZeR and the rest with above 70%winrate on midway are not high in numbers. Only those truly influence the match. I myself even if i occupy 38# on EU midway list don't see myself yet as the big influencer if the enemy team is organised. My losses come because cruisers are next to BBs and DDs don't overextend. They counter me with their positioning. I am way more dependend on my team now, if it's bad i lose. That's how it is. It's close to the same and will get worse for me as CV player the more players learn to adapt.

@ghostbuster_ It's you who claims player numbers are dropping, prove it. It's not in me to educate you. Educate yourself. Also asking the opposite party you represented the claim to to prove it to you is just beyond lazyness at this point.

@DFens_666 Bad DD players - don't do anything for your team (Don't spot when needed) and at the sane time they are unable to kill a single ship by itself. Good DD players - will spot if necessary, can torp targets, can kill weak targets with guns and will definetly kill targets which are isolated

@ghostbuster_ Prove it's not normalizing then *Edit* There are sources that document the numbers of players, go look them up and post here the proof the playerbase is declining more so then ever and that it's not going to rise again like always. So after you killed the rocket planes only now do you realize the DBs? Not yours in particular but it just shows how low the understanding of CV haters is. So if there is a skillgap always in other classes too what makes the skillgap in CVs an issue then? You have no complaints besides your feelings

@ghostbuster_ Player numbers are normalizing. No matter how often you repeat that clans are dead it won't change that fact. There is no problem, WG adressed the DDs being spotted constantly the best they could do, any further and DDs become immune. WG fixed what has been listed as problems mostly already. Everything else you say is overdramatic and reaching way to much. The skill gap is still visible because some people need a bit more time to get used to it, it's still to early to judge for success. If you can't see that then that proves your ignorance. Not all players commit as much as a player like myself or yourself. Also you telling me i wouldn't read what you say,i'm simply ignoring what is just generalization and baseless assumptions. The meta change is not a negative effect. It's totally subjective to the individual players feels.

@ghostbuster_ Player numbers are normalizing. CVs currently are not OP, check the EU rankings for Midway to see that. Can't wait for you to claim the unicums are to strong. Even if the majority dislikes the current state of CV assuming it truly does it doesn't warrant another rework or removal. Change is almodt always disliked if it pulls you out of a comfort zone. There are no "problems". What you see as problems is just a change in gameplay and needs to be adapted towards. It causes problems for the individual player who refuses to adapt. And you don't just "poll" a big majority after only a month. It's not enough time to get relyable data. People haven't seen the new CV long enough yet to form a valueable opinion. And most of the complainers haven't even played the class enougj to have any understanding of it. You just want to rush a poll because you know it will favor you now

You are all since the rework and the hotfixes drunk on power. Your moaning and complaining brought about quick reactions which made you overestimate the value of your opinion. No, they won't remove the rework or nerf further,it's likely not going to happen. You can stop overestimating yourself and your complains. It was a mistake of WG to show such fast reactions, what we get now because of that is the majority of the anti CV crowd powertripping and presenting "facts" left and right to summon more nerfs or posdibly even a removal? Maybe you get your hopes up way to high? Also constantly trying to adress WG staff for information like that and demanding answers or stats, are you out of your mind?! They arw doing us a great service trying to answer you and you are all to pushy about releasing internal data. Who do you think you are?! We are just the players, not the developers. We don't take part in development. You can not expect them to cater to "the majority", loud people on the forum. And no, player numbers are not dropping but normalizing after a christmas season lile EVERY YEAR. Stop the conspiracy theory and absurd demands. You will get more balancing soon,it takes time, let WG have the time.

Why is that data so important to you guys anyway? Probably won't change a dime if they shared it either since it's also still to early to conclude anything. Just check EU stats for Midway, the rankings change every day since still more players are reaching the amount of battles needed to be listed. Many of the top ranks are also still influenced by pre nerf stats. It needs at least 2 more months to iron those out. And i'm pointing at Midway since it's right now the most viable CV option. If you compare the rest to the CVs to the old ones performances even under influence of pre nerf they perform worse.

Lol. Saying so many funny things at once. But 'tis nice you feel positive about the rework at least! People complain because they think they can change the game in their favor. After the hotfixes which adressed most of the "negative towards CV" grps demands they are on a power trip and think that the louder they are the more WG will change in their favor. 'Tis quite the illusion i must say.

So you are not doing it differently then me and here i had hope to discover a new secret technique discovered by someone else ayaya. But it's nice that you get all the right ideas, i'll be waiting for you at t10!

You will still be able to get strikes in. And the strikes will come in to finish a ship, not to injure it. Leaving the securing of kills to the CV will be very comfortable for sure.

Really?with divebombers? Every time i try that the tracers pop up from everywhere and i cant locate the DD. So far my guts and imagination helped me kill smoke DDs but i never aimed after AA tracer

You can't find a DD that is having AA enabled in smoke like you used to anymore. It's better to leave it on

You make me proud ♡ Q_Q great work with that Langley! Show the DBs to the world!

Oh this response of yours is far better to read and calmes me already ☆ I even agree with some of your points but i am at work and can't go into it super detailed, just wanted to thank you for dropping that sarcasm and stating your points this way ☆

You are reaching way to much. It's getting tired pointing the flaws out in what you are saying so sarcastically. The automatic consumeable usage on CV + Autopilot are NEEDED to be able to have maximum amount of uptime worrying only about your squadron. Never have i felt betrayed by the automatic consumeables yet and autopilot screwed me only in the first 20 battles. There is NO NEED for auto consumeables on ships where you control only those and not anything else. Apparently you don't want to ever view it from that direction right? Have you ever thougt about the positives WG gave is with the rework? And no, less CVs is not a positive outcome objectively speaking before you throw that one in.

Wow, what a post. I loved RTS and i love the current CVs. So i must be the rarest of cases. Maybe the player which stats you just inspected needs a bit more time to get the hang of it. Not everyone is an out of the box performer. WG did the righr move in automating a bit since it helped the average player for sure. I doubt they would need any more assistance

What's the difference to Langley then :0?

I have no issues playing my DDs,infact the games i had since rework were more exciting even. See my shimakaze and asashio stats for reference. Of course i'm focusing on playing the Midway at the moment so i don't have a ton of DD games done yet.

Hello! Since you are a new player you should start with the German ships since they are more forgiving for beginners. You should practice in random battles instead of Coop since in Coop bots behave alot differently then in random. Stay with the majority of your team and don't sail alone and you should be fine. Good luck!

Ships being spotted goes for both teams,obviously meta and comfort zone will shift and new strategies will be needed. I say yes. It will be figured out how to effectively play against CVs soon enough.