Yosha_AtaIante

@Sunleader Oh nice you are back! ♡ You are wrong on a few points but it considers a different context. For the chaos of random battles CVs are definetly to strong because the perfect blob doesn't exist. Ranked matches however... you don't even want to know how powerless CVs are there. I had a match where i shot down 30+planes in my Shimakaze before dying to the enemy Midway ( @SexyCroat I ginally ranked out in my Shima with a 59% winrate using 8km torps. I gave up on CV, why? 0 carry potential and absolutely stressful to no end + the amount of toxicity thrown at me in chat was unrivaled. CVs are to strong for the chaos in randoms, you always will have that target that is absolutely helpless there. Ranked? Oh boy...

how much dmg should have the CV done to you?

ranked out with 8km torp shima today after getting 8 wins in a row, cv a problem by butt. 199 games with 54% winrate to rank out (59% winrate in shima). I played one half as CV until i gave up and the rest with shima.

I was one win awqy from rank 1. We had a fantastic team, we were winning hard too. I was in a Shima contesting C on greece. It was a game you couldn't lose. There was no wqy so i thanked everyone and told them that this is where i go rank 1. BIG MISTAKE because as i said that, the Zao that was with me on C decided to suicide into a DD and a DM full broadside and didnt even fire torps. So did a Z52, same wqy as the Zao straight between the DM and the Z52 in that cap. Now the enemy Z52 pushed me from one side while the DM pushed from the other, me being out of the cap and suddenly without support chased, hydroed and radared i of course die too and the game is lost. Now i'm stuck halfway through rank 3 again because i got seriously unlucky or all the potatoes managed to finally catch up.

we aren't really allowed to discuss that here but i will take the risk. it's the same reason as them allowing toxicity towards each other on quite a wide level to happen in these forums. In many other forums i was part in for example i would have seen all the posts that even slightly insult op deleted and the people uld have been warned of. i myself would have recieved a suspension in other forums for some of my ☆♡ posts. I think the playerbase is overall so salty that they are rather lax here so most players can went it out without fearing consequences like in other forums.

I failed yes. But i see that as a good thing. I rarely interact with him. Maybe i don't see the whole conteyt but what i see however is how people treat him. I mean people can just ignore him too right? And if he himself breaks any rules the mods will take care of it or am i missing something? nevermind forget it all, i just saw this post here i understand now https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/119270-how-to-fix-the-cv-rework/?do=findComment&comment=3029325

just because a CV doesnt have "no squads" doesnt mean the 3 plane squad that you launch when deplaned is effective at all. Thats one possible attack run whichncan't be slingshotted anymore and has go eat all AA auras before drop making it highly ineffectice at doing any dmg and if you recieve dmg to that squad it won't even be worth mentioning. It's as close as you can get to being "deplaned". And don't bring up "But they can still spot". If it comes to you being deplaned it often means your team is losing anyway. In a winning team being deplaned is only possible if you are a potato CV

Yes it's not an issue on a single strong AA ship, what happens is that there is no flak shooting at the rising planes during F command. The flak if other ships are in aA range kills those planes that rise up because they go straight line and the flak spawns in their path wrecking them. since you are in short range Kreml aura you eon't recieve flak while rising while the short range dps gets destributed between all planes in the rising flak making it unlikely that they die until effecticely becoming invincible.

Don't rely on it, heavy blobs will still wreck them. It all depends on the amount of boost during(after drop) and you really need to spam F to abuse the invincibility frames and boost. Still not a sure way to save them.

yesterday i was really sick and doc told me not to move much. So i sat there and played ranked battles for 9 hours.

you guys really need to tone down on the near insulting toxicity you throw towards beast, just saying. I'm obviously not a mod i'm not saying you arent allowed but it's a bit much at this point.

If this change were already live for the current ranked season every CV would be deplaned after 10 minutes.

@SexyCroat In ranked with his Midway while i sailed Shima on the same team. Great support and easy win.

since reaching rank 4 playing CV has been torture so i switched to shimakaze. Now would you look at this screenshot. 4 stars away from reaching rank 1, got 10 wins in a row from rank 4 to rank 2 and since then more or less a back and forth. I don't feel the op ness of CVs in ranked at all and the supposedly weakest DD for the current ranked meta is doing great for me. 8km torps for the win

i never slingshot. Pls remove it and buff plane hp. i will become more op

are you drunk?

Oh yes you are totally right and i'm not going to argue against that! yes those challenges are meaningless therefore too, they simlulate nothing that would ever happen in a random battle :). i used to get more then 3kraken sometimes a day pre he bomb nerf because of the amount of DDs on the enemy team easily killed by me in Midway (is why my avg dmg is so low on midway q_q)

i just want my support cv line already im tired of attack cv. random battle is to repetetive by now and ranked battle is torture. Give me my "healer/support" class of ships in wows pls wargaming

No matter the rng luck, you wouldn't be able to deal with 5 Asashios with their AA turned off (and restricting their torp usage until they get 5km close to your CV hull). The experiment i did with Seiyko and some i did privately myself proved that it takes DDs less then 10 minutes to reach your hull in a spread out formation. By the time you kill 1 DD 4 are already on your [edited]. It's not possible. Seiyko had a gearing escort on his side (player controlled gearing of course) vs 3 DDs and had quite a hard time. (no torp restrictions). I wasn't really all to serious. After alot of challenges i did in my ex clan to boost their interest in CV/surface ship interactions and for entertainment value i seen some amazing stuff like coordinated smoke usage, wide spread steamroll, super yolo blobbing. I think part of why they had success easily killing CVs in the most unlikely DDs is because they did it in a training room battle without any pressure to win (and no teammates on the CV side to shoot at them if spotted). And the DDs i am talking about are hardly unicum. I know El2aZeR is damn amazing. But i bet my [edited]he will never ever, even if he got 3 lucky detonations, win a training battle against 5 DDs with his Enterprise. The closest i ever came to winning against 3 t10 DDs in midway (pre HE bomber nerf) was killing 2 DDs (1 det with Midway secondaries!) and dying tothe third because of how they communicated smoke and speedboost usage. Didn't help that the map was ocean and they approached totally spread apart from each other from all sides.

wait. you got 26 citadels with hosho? And 5 torp hits? YOU GOT THAT MANY ATTACK RUNS OFF AT T4???? WTF IS THIS

i challenge you on that statement. You with your Enterprise against myself and 4 other DDs on a training room map of your choice. If you win you get a premium of your choice worth 50€

I have been trying yesterday. It's very hard to make her work for me. The only good targets so far have been BBs, reaching 100k dmg can be a struggle if ships blob because none of the planes have real alpha and rely on dot stacking which is hard enough without blobs. The torp bombers have been the most consistent planetype so far and are my main dmg dealers if i find a lone BB. DDs i completely ignore since those rockets don't really hit much or not hard enough (3k per hit, very hard to control, slow) Hitting DDs with torps only works on potato DDs too so no reason to waste my time there. So since i mostly go for BBs i manage to do dmg but i lose alot. I simply don't feel like i have any impact on the game. Dmg after all doesn't always win you games especially if its repairable dot damage spread across different BBs.

I hope you are being sarcastic here x)

And what are we going to do about that then? Increase AA further?

i wish i could use that in ranked instead of any of the t10s