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There is a good way of doing it. Mainly praying for your team to shoot them, get that F3 to light up on the cruisers and harrassing them with small suicide strikes. They will crumble under pressure especially after they enter open water to escort BBs.

He didn't get hit by Flak after middle - wnd of the video, his planes just "melted" under AA aura. Testing suggests lower AA values then there are now. During testing planes were 50+ kts faster. He basically was useless (and untrained) the whole match with advantages conpared to now. Doesnt say much however he played very badly LOL

I got Enty. @El2aZeR probably will choke me but the following happend. CV Rework hit, i sold enty for doubloons. Bought Haku/Midway prem cammo with doubloons. Sold Haku for free XP/prem cammo doubloons LOL. Bought all 4 prem CVs for 150€. MFW got back Enterprise. MFW i spent 150€ on 3 useless CVs.

ok, now i only need to turn my camera in one direction, press delete button and kill 3 planes for free? Hurray!

You seem to be performing qite well, top 150 for Hakuryo isn't that easy right, top 15%! I guess you shouldn't be the voice of average players calling CVs playable for the playerbase.

Here are the screenshots, one showing midway players by number of games and other showing the last spots of avg damage done with me being on 156#

@Sunleader My counting ia correct and you are probably using a different stats tracking website. because i know of 2 players who for a fact played more then 1k games in Midway and i can make screenshots of them having done so if you insist. I can also back every other stat up that i presented to you but it's extra work i don't want to be doing on a mobile device so you would have to believe me when i say those numbers i mentioned are correct. I also i set it as 200games counted because 100 games simply aren't enough to be statistically worth anything. I had 100Midway games in the first month of CV rework release. None of the stats of those first 100games are at all relevant anymore. Setting it to 200 is actually very generous. Btw it's 3 people with over 1 k games in Midway. So if 1800 ~ players played Midway enough to be shown in the ranking and only around 160-170 do 130k dmg in 100games then that indicates that CVs are absolutely going to be unplayable for all the people who haven't been able to reach that number before AA buffs. And that is 90% if not more of all CV Midway players.

It's talk about the Midway. Getting 200k damage in it regularly is not a problem. But it won't always win you games. That's because most of it's damage is based on sticky fires/floods. It's also why high damage numbers are easy to achieve and 130k really isn't an issue at all and every average player pre AA buff should have been able to get there. I'm saying that yes, in Midways case it needs to be OP for all the players numbers to get to a kind of okay place performance wise which is obviously unhealthy and shouldn't be happening. What i'm saying is CVs are at the moment unplayable for the average player and to become playable they will be more then OP for the players who reach the numbers i suggested. Overall, it's not balanceable.

talking Midway because its dot focused therefore easy to get dmg in it.

There are around 1800 ranked Midway players. 59! of those reach my criteria. 170 or less reach enough for the 130k avg damage emblem. that is way below 25% actually.

Oh let's hear yours then! I bet you would love to talk about that one Midway player sitting on 220k avg with 80 games which probably were all done in 8.01 ☆♡☆

But those without make good customers...☆

For people with a brain maybe. Let's look at the Midway and count the people above the easily achieveable 130k avg damage with more then 200games! I consider 130k the bare minimum to be called a good CV player. (btw my personal rating in Midway is rising every day because people are getting worse in it.) 59 Players Above 200 Games In The Midway reach more then 130k avg damage. Most of these battles were also played before all the AA buffs took place. I predict this number to fall by half if these players actually continue to play which i doubt will happen. So CV (Midway) is only playable in the hands of around 60 people. That's funny.

I don't even care anymore to be honest. WG is probably panicking already due to all the players who stopped playing CV while they still have 2 more premium CVs to sell LOL. I will for now just stay with my dear Shima until the 8km torp option gets called op ♡

This is true. You can easily get 150k+ even after the AA buffs. But only of course if you understand what you are doing. The fact that only around 160 people are above 130k is quite funny anyways.

Pls keep your comments about my dear Shima in exactly this tone because i'm sure she's going to break up in tears again if she witnesses more negative facts being spread about her... ☆ However, is the announcement about the Surviveability Expert on planes the only announced buff? If so rip CVs.

i meant this i'm sorry pls don't punch me, no punchies pls. ♡ There is not much more i can add to your post since i mostly agree. just wanted to let you know anyways.

I would instantly chose to refund Saipan and Graf Zeppelin if given the opportunity.

Thank you foe your welcome! Careful my typos are also back and to lazy to correct them. i really appreciate it to be back and sorry for shooting to fast but i wanted to quicken up those stale spirits and get you into engagement mode hehe ☆♡☆ This is how i can understand your post better. By saying that you feel like the type of play needed to be successful is just not fun to you and probably many others i can get behind the statement of DDs being impossible to play. Since i'm a very weird ball of poisoned cookie cream i find DDs and the Challenge CVs provide so fun that i increased my performance in them enough to earn me a DD elite mark thingy which i'm super proud of ☆♡☆ I'm totally fine with what you just said here. There are certain CVs which are as they are very overpowered especially considering them keeping their effectiveness even after the AA change. Namely Enterprise/Midway. I still believe that Midway is the better candidate for random battles and Haku lacking behind. Ranked may be a different story but noone cares for ranked anyway. So with Enterprise and Midway in my opinion still dominating and Saipan, Audacious and others being totally screwed i share your thoughts here. Yes those are the people who bathed in the OP ness of CVs we agreed on some 100 pages earlier. Those are also the people who claimed CVs are braindead to play and some of them attacked me for playing CV because it's easy and the only thing i cpuld play reasonably well. It's easy to try finding reasons and make them up on the go but when hell breaks lose none of them were prepared. These nerfs were predicted to come. Many who needed exploits and counted mostly on those now don't understand how to dodge invisible flak and lose their squadron instantly. Most don't even understand invisible flak exists and that is not the only difference between good CV players. @El2aZeR is right in saying the skillgap is getting wider and wider which was not the intention of the rework. But we got what we got and gotta live with that for now. I noticed less CVs played and the tone WG is answering posts on reddit with carries a certain amount of humiliation in their texts. This is the reason why i reduced my posts even before my forced leave. Noone wants to come to an agreement and everyone just repeats the same things that were already discussed. Since you really put effort discussing CVs and for a non CV main you being pretty knowledgeable and more so then many of the people who jumped on CV and perform so good in them are now whining... it's becoming quite hard to find posts worth replying and challenging. Lol amazing reply ☆♡☆. I have followed my Idols advice on not caring much for the average players needs anymore since those are quick to poison the well for everyone. See your post. You are not interested in performing well?Then why cry about the game being unfairly hard? cute Barney i want to give you big hugs for that reply.

So is he right then in arguing that CVs are op after playing around 30 battles overall in them with above average performance that would even out or get worse if he played 10 times the amount of that especially with the new patch? The RTS Ranger in a competent CV players hand was underperforming but deadly. If i fought you in a Strike Hiryu while you used the Ranger you wouldn't give me as easy of a time as i wished to have. Same as i sunk countless Kagas in my RTS Ranger and performed quite fine with it back then. Just because i performed well in it in RTS times doesn't mean it's good or OP. Right now it takes more effort to keep performance up with the new patch. Good Ships in good players hands will always look op. Just because i had amazing growth inthe small amount of games in Shimakaze doesn't make it OP or a good ship. It's in it's function and competetively a mess. Especially in a random playground full of potatos to farm. Same logic applies to CVs no?

DDs are not unplayable. My stats in them increased dramatically and i deliberately used Shimakaze in 8km torp configuration to prove my point, check my stats. I also increased my performances in BBs and CL/CA play. My first game as Midway after the latest patch ended up with me doing 260k damage (loss). Obviously players like me will make CVs work no matter the nerf. Doesn't mean anyone will be able to. Whoever thinks that after this last update for CVs to still be OP is lying. It's OP in a good players hands. But Everyone below the top dogs can just call it quits. There are not many top dogs around either. @Sunleader You call the few games you played "well" in your t8 carriers prove that they are still op? No mate. Not even close. Those results are at most average. Play at least 100 games in either Kaga or Graf Zeppelin now with the new patch and show us that they are truly OP by doing at least 90k+ average and holding a winrate over 60%. Can't do that? Then they are clearly not OP. You don't have the time or can't commit to it? Then how can you be so sure that you are right in your wot posts? @everyone Whatever happend to this thread during my away time is a catastrophe. DDs are very much playable. With great success even if you go about it putting effort into your play instead of blaming CV for every mistake you make. Same for BBs and Cruisers. Stop blaming other things for your bad decisionmaking. The last patch is certainly a step in the right direction but to powerful regarding the low amount of planes availible during a match compared to the losses one has to sustain now. There is no smart target management anymore because all and every target will make you lose planes. And regen or reserves are to small to sustain an intense 20 minute long match. As WG stated two days ago a hotfix will soon be applied that will buff plane HP to increase their surviveability. This will help to sustain the new direction they won't revert as stated by @Sub_Octavian Spotting certainly does not need any more adjustments since the punishment for attempted prolonged spotting are guaranteed planelosses and the inability of your team most times to turn your spotting into great results. CVs and the way they are heading right nowis directly towarda a pretty balanced state. The fact that dedicated CV players who began to struggle since the changes are now voicing their opinion towards the recent patch proves that CVs which were previously to rewarding are now moving into the right spot. That doesn't change the fact that every single surface ship is still very playable even with CVs around. And since fun is a subjective measure it should not be used or taken seriously as a variable in an argument.

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