Yosha_AtaIante

I don't know what El2aZeR was talking about there being a way of hitting stuff with them but i tried a shitton in training rooms and it's pretty much impossible to count on rng no matter how well you place that aiming reticle. I even tried sunleaders suggestion and imagine, the bombs never landed as he showed in his screenshot.

@Panocek

Being just a gimmik in a t10 match as Kaga. 3 BBs yolo rushed me and lost their team the game, nevertheless, i could get one drop of on the repu for 5k dmg, lose 8planes in the process and they just keep going. I did a bit of damage to a DD, successfully killing it. The only targets i have. All the rest i did before my slow ship was overrun by a pushing force on A? I did basically nothing and this crap proves how useless and impactless you are as a t8 Kaga in a t10 match. YOur contribution doesn't matter and is always miniscule.

You generate no impact, dmg farm is useless if your team is crap. DOing dmg is not the problem. But inpactng the game to get a win is. No matter what you do, it's not stopping any enemy from doing whatever they want to and i have a feeling that the more ships i spot the more creeped out my team becomes and abandones all caps in fear of seeing so many red dots on the minimap

Kaga is a pos

I also don't quite get it. I know how to hit a DD if it maneuvers kind of badly or tries to juke. I can usually hit them. But if they turn full broadside to my DBs before i start the attack run even the reduced reticle expansion on adjustments doesn't help to get it on target all to well. The issue for me with the DBs isn't bombs landing on the outher reticle, it's bombs falling short/overshootigand never landing in the middle section of the lenghty reticle against broadside targets.

Please tell me 2 games are enough

You devil...

Which one would you like me to play? Enterprise? You already got El2aZeR for that. Maybe Kaga? You got Sunleader for that. Saipan or GZ?hmmmm

AA buff where? All looks just right

It's just experience that you need. you need to play CV alot and see what mistakes enemy DDs are doing that allows you to kill them easily and then simply not do those mistakes as a DD yourself. Ever found a DD who is hard to kill while playing CV?Remember what the DD is doing, do that yourself when playing DD while not doing the mistakes you notice weaker DDs do, refine it all and you got yourself the solution. I haven't played German DDs. If they are similiar to how US DDs play then i am a bad person to give you advice on them. I can only play IJN DDs with 8km torps or CV. The rrst of the ships i'm pretty bad at.

Lol

I want to play some with you later

Teach me

@CptBarney That's how it is then. I can't say no to something i have no control over. If i stop playing i lose a game i like to play. This change won't make me stop playing because this game is still to much fun for me and probably will be fun even after that change. If it becomes unenjoyable for you then there is no reason to force yourself.

If that's the case then they should implement one random battle mode with standard ships and one with progressive ships. If they won't do that then rip game. i will continue playing because i dont mind grinds, it's very MMO like, grinding for gear for example. i'm used to it and i won't hate them for it but it saddens me that there can be a shima matched against mine which is far better shipwise then mine.

I play because it's fun to play.

It's not clear how much more powerful these ships will be. Until i don't know more i won't be starting to cry. But if you tell me an upgraded Shimakaze can get 5k more health, 10km F3 torps and 10%faster turret traverse gunreload and 3 knots more speed then i will start crying.

I have heared but dont understand any of it and don't care. It seems like an optional thing. I will continue playing my favorite ships just as usual and that's it.

Are you sure about that? Stop spreading misinformation.

If you know that there is a CV on the enemy team then you have to play so that you are always able to disengage if the threat of being spotted anytime arises. You have to consider: *Have i been spotted yet? If yes, how likely is the chance of the CV coming back for me/am i going to be in enemy gun ranges if spotted/ is my smoke on cooldown? If no, stay unspotted and don't announce yourself by missing torprs, torp only if sure they will hit. If unspotted don't just wander into the cap early game because it announces your position and the whole enemy team is ready to shoot you. Stay patient and take the opportunity to cap at another point in the game. If the CV spotted your position at the start of the game go the opposite way you intended to. The CV will eventually search for your last heading while you are on the other side of the map resetting your position basically. Once the enemy CV found a rythm or place he likes to strike at you are free to do whatever you want on the other flank until his team asks him to find you, recognise that behavior early and make it hard for him to spot you. Think ahead of where he would be searching for you. If you missed torps the direction of the torps gave your position away? Move to another angle or turn around so the CV wastes time on the initial search. Stay out of radar as much as possible. Radar announces your position to the CV and if you are on an established flank about to torp some BBs the radar revealing you wont only scare them away but summon the CV to find you. Basically it's a "git gud or stop moaning" kind of thing. DDs with CVs in the game require alot of thought and great decisionmaking to be effective. Your mistakes will be punished and that's that. But you can do quite a few things to make the CV go away if he decides to absolutely focus you. Mainly dodging rockets which is possible with the right angling and steering, hiding in smoke and baiting the rocket planes back to the smoke by showing yourself to the dropped fighter planes to waste the CVs time. Every second you take away of the CVs attention from striking your team a apotting your team is an advantage for your team. You are still in the game on that flank in that smoke and potentially going to be free from CV spotting if he gives in while he is doing nothing circling your smoke for 2 minutes doing nothing but waiting. The difference is that you are a presence inside and outside the smoke while he is uselss circling your smoke.

No it's not an issue because if i'm the DD and the enemy CV goes for me he will never do that mistake again. You can make a CVs life miserable if you know how to make yourself an annoying target. Play CV to understand how to play DD against CVs. There are alot of options on how you can waste the CVs time and make his team hate him alot. As soon as he leaves you alone because you are annoying to strike all hell breaks lose on the flank that demands him to spot you and to kill you. One could say i haven't met a good CV player on the enemy team yet but that just proves the point that if you know what you are doing in a DD a CV will not be able to do much but waste his time. I wonder however what would happen if i had to play against myself as CV on the enemy team. Btw my record on planekills in my shima is over 35 in a ranked battle.

You clearly don't know what you are talking about my friend. Please excuse me if i ignore your posts from now on. "Just keep sending" Yeah sure. @Sunleader I can go after a Yama with a fighter but not if the CV is supporting him with his own fighters too. It's often not worth sacrificing that many planes to maybe do 40k damage to a Yamato of which 20k will be healed back. I would always go for it if unsupported however. It takes at least 5 minutes and alot of planelosses to kill a full life BB without support from your own team. Sometimes that amount of time and thr planes needed for that need to be invested elsewhere to get the match back into your favor.

I didn't say CV weren't op. What i said is people in random battle overestimate their power. I can't just delete a BB that is escorted by cruisers by snapping my finger. I can effectively punish lone ships if they are unsupported and make DD lives hell and that's about it. The Enterprise still has the ability to affect the game outcome as is the hakuryo but dot reliant CVs like midway and audacious have no chance to carry if your team is crap. Because you can't kill targets fast enough in them.

This is true. Most overestimate the power of a CV. I can't magically stop a push of a BB who is escorted by 2 cruisers in open water. I also can't go for a lone Yamato which has fighter planes + the enemy CV ensurong to drop fighter planes every damn time i make an effort to strike it. The last games i played in Midway were both losses. One game i did 260k dmg. The other i did 180k dmg. Doing damage is not the issue but impacting the game became far harder.