Yosha_AtaIante

I can tell you by experience that it certainly is possible. Unlike you I play DD's a lot to be able to know about that. You want me to write a guide on how to deal with CV's? I will do that. No problem. I will also include video commentary if necessary. But writing them down is hard to imagine and it's easy to shift around a written scenario. So you will have to wait until my footage is recorded and ready and oh boi I have a shitton of examples to show.

And the DD can reposition and take objectives in the meantime. After all your planes can't teleport. You are kind of hypocritical yourself. After all you always say that the average and bad players don't matter but actually they are the biggest reason for your success. Yes players are bad. But it doesn't take the whole enemy team to be adaptive to CV's. If more than 3players per team have a better idea about how to handle CV's that already can change a lot especially if those players are DD's.

I'm certain we will get them back after WG has worked through their dev priorities.

It also diminishes the CVs influence of the rest of the matches happening for keeping the DD occupied. They cancel each other out. The early clan wars had players who haven't fully grasped how to correctly play against CVs yet. That is outdated data. You might be suprised in what they gathered if they ever decide to release it to the public. That is because 1 year isn't enough for the playerbase to adapt to a reworked element yet. Wait another year and you will have more and more difficulties to maintain that solo winrate. Also its only you and a handful of others who can even achieve that so who cares. There are. Maybe you should pick up DD's again and see for yourself. After all most of the CV players are bad aren't they so a player like you should have an easy time. We will see how the CB season with CV's will play out and how many top clans actually have competent DD players who know how to deal with CV's accordingly. I doubt there are many but after the season they will certainly increase. You should try to enjoy being as powerful in CV's as you are while you still can. After a bit more time you won't be able to maintain such a success anymore.

So we established that the CV actually can not deal with those ships if the team isn't able to provide the right amount of assistance. A DD does not need to kill a BB to win a 1on1 since it can simply outcap it or rush it from the front and torp it to death with very high chance of success. DD's if played correctly can cause any CV player huge troubles in random game mode no matter how good the player in the CV is because it simply has more influence over a win via objectives. You win many battles in CV's because the team you are playing against need to assume your team is good no matter if you have a bad one or not. You are so dependent of your team serving as meatshield if they are bad to buy you time it's not even funny. More time still has to pass for more players to adapt their decision-making with CV's in the game. Once that happens CV's influence will be even more diminished. After all DDs and BBs still determine who wins the games in the end in most of the matches not the CV player. So please don't go around saying "the CV" deals with targets easily. It in fact doesn't. The only thing it does is manipulate bad player into making bad decisions.

What you can do to inexperienced players proves not much. I'm more than confident. You should try to bomb me and I can show you what I mean. Experiencing it yourself is always better than watching others do it since one can easily make up reasons why things went the way they did. I invite you to try it. I'm sure a little bit of education about CV counterplay won't hurt you.

Please release the IJN Destroyer Shigure as a premium ship.

Actually it's not needed. More examples are meaningless. Because in my replays not only does the BB survive more than 8 minutes. It also completely deplaned the T10 CV's and kills them with secondaries. Just because most of the player population doesn't know how to react to CV's doesn't mean other players can't do it.

You can't give feedback for every single suggestion given. It would also entice to many people and make to many feel entitled for an answer. It's the wrong way of communication. Most times it's better to ignore the community. If they value your suggestion you will notice it by them implementing it in a future patch or released as a Dev blog.

I have. But it's better if you try it yourself. We can prove it together. Otherwise I can send you a replay after I get back home from work.

They closed it because it evolved into a crap post heaven which is partially our fault. They are moderating the new thread more harshly so be advised. I will also keep it on topic. The new CV topic will however serve the same purpose and its never wrong to start a clean one.

I can prove you wrong easily.

Because the demand to discuss in it was low. Since for some reason the hate towards CV revived a new thread was necessary.

You realise that by insisting of a team being present that a CV without a team is basically helpless? Like most endgame situations where it comes down to misplay on the enemy teams side if they are in the lead to lose during your hard carry in a CV? Because a CV without a team can not kill a BB in under 8 minutes.

It was meant as ineffective team. A team that doesn't help you kill what you strike. CVs in a 1on1 situation are useless against good players.

Hello. Most of the criticism that is given is a repeat of already said examples. They know about your concerns. They decide not to act on it. Criticism doesn't need to be followed by change. It's their decision what to make of it. They decided to create another CV topic because of the reason of repeated criticis and suggestions.

Please remember that you can not and will not be chatbanned no matter how often you get reported if it's not justified by WG's standards.

Hello. If you are the only person reporting nothing happens. It needs two people reporting the same person to reduce the karma by 1. If you use multiple reports in the same battle it counts as one.

I understand your concerns @Grimmblutbut I still believe a report isn't necessary. If you inflict team damage repeatedly in the same match after a certain dmg treshhold your team damage that is inflicted gets nullified on the victim but instead reflected in full upon the team killer. This prevents after a certain dmg treshhold is reached his ability to outrageously damage teammates. The penalty will then already be set as of 2 battles without team damage need to pass after that one time. Now if you do 2 battles without doing team damage and repeat the same offense again you get an instant 8 battle without team damage penalty. Do any team damage during the 8battle period and you end up in Coop for up to 10forced battles.

Hello. I think ranked is fine. Only the arms race mod is kind of out of place there.

Hello. You only talked about one case and assume repetitive behavior. The automatic system in place would have punished the player by sending him to Coop if the behavior was repetitive. I can attest to it working pretty well as I jokingly often injure division mates and got such a Coop sanction before and pretty fast. There is no need for a ticket or to call for a ban. Yes, it might seem like a painful experience if on the receiving end and that's why the automatic punishment doesn't discriminate between accidental or purposefully inflicted team damage.

It depends on the ship. You know that I can prove you wrong.

CV's without a functioning team aren't that powerful... Only in an environment with let's say competent and balanced teams the CVs strength is amplified by those teammates. When the CV strikes a target that is not really able to be threatened by his team there are options to mitigate damage taken. Mitigation doesn't eliminate the damage completely but it's still a setback for the CV player striking as time was lost for an inefficient attack run.

Thank you. Please remember not to fight each other @Isoruku_Yamamoto , thanks for standing in for me but lets try to make this topic a healthier place than the old CV rework discussion thread. He excused his aggressive posting style so I'm fine with him.

That is a possibility and perfectly normal if it was the case. Since no replay is going to be provided we can't confirm sadly.