Yosha_AtaIante

There is a difference if a random person says something vs someone who I played with before, together and heardd in VC and who I was in the same clan with. It's clear due to this connection that I'm saying this as a wake up call. We after all talked about this often already in similar fashions on both the THESO discord, via VC during battles and private messages (PMs mostly you and me though). All this what we are talking about currently as in changing worse players I to better players is hardly a new point of discussion for us. We just go about it differently. And I will summarize my points in regards to this topic again: After 60k battles he still sees the same mistakes being committed by the usual offenders in game as in bad players and nothing really changed, therefore I put his confidence in what OP did into question. Mac decided not to answer. I believe that you can change individual players who seek help but can't change players who don't care to change which is the majority of the players you and OP encounter in a daily basis in the game with more than 5k battles and consistently terrible performance. These players exist in any game it is what it is. However you still hold hope (correct me if I'm wrong) that you can have a positive impact on these people to change them for the better. My last point was that how likely do you think is it for someone who does not use their main guns or use them in an influential position in hybrids to care enough to read the forum and have a moment of "wait a minute, this OP is describing my behavior, I should change it as he requests"???? How do you have faith in players who don't care enough to play well on the first place to educate themselves on how to play better? If they would care they wouldn't play this bad in the first place because let's be fair. Using main guns is the easiest thing in the game. These players behave like this BY CHOICE therefore you can't change them because they choose to play like that

What's your point? Is citing his number of battles a personal attack? Are you bringing anything of value to this discussion? Are you here to point at me and no other contributions? What do you think about the topic at hand?

By that logic you enable people who denounce experienced players who kite. Because in many bad players eyes kiting is bad play and a mistake and everyone should push and support their suicidal plays. You are enabling bad players to stay bad with that attitude.

name the personal attack now. Show it

So personal attacks instead of arguments and you talk about discussion? Just don't reply if you can't offer any value Yes. It's making excuses. He wants others to get better before he himself can even perform what he asks for. It's similar to a 48% pepega trying to tell you to play a certain way in the game. This just doesn't work.

Then get to work and educate them somehow. You are not believing to be reaching a majority of the problematic players here are you? They after all can't even find the main guns on their hybrid ships, which get accessed at t8 which implies they must have played the game enough to be beyond the basics. Do you get it now? These players are ignorant by choice. They don't care. Basics? Why do you assume they don't know? You have to accept that they are not willing to know. You expect these people who don't care enough to shoot their main guns to read your forum topic? Naive puts this lightly. So where is the discussion? Stop dodging. So like you to just bark. But you are the first to moan about the next clueless player on your own team. Why not contribute and help OP in educating if you believe it changes anything? Also I bring battles played up to just show how often you must have experienced what OP is describing yet still believing there is hope for anything to change. Insane...

Point at the discussion. Where is it? I see the OP demanding players to git gud. This is not a discussion. It's what other pepegas say in ingame chat to each other every day. Random Bismarksniper1957 telling JiplipubUA to support him and after Bismarksniper1957 dies screeching in all caps "THANKS TEAM NO SUPPORT". What's your argument? You didn't even bring any. Mine is that he better git gud himself before he points at others. Because he can change how he himself performs and increase his successes that way however he has 0 zero, null control over other players. Now try again to make excuses

So what are you going to do about it? 60k battles and you still believe you can change bad players?

What would you propose we do so WG does something about it? What do you think are we able to do?

Its quite unlucky that WG doesn't care isn't it? What can we do about it? Do you have an idea, a solution how we can make WG fix it?

Idealism and this game don't go well together. There are many other ships that have the same issues (Zao vs Salem for example) What you ask for is not aligned with the vision WG has for their game therefore you are just wasting your energy

Set your own room in order before trying to better the world.

Does him changing his position change anything or make anything better?

Your point is that CVs are clearly OP/broken because they are restricted? Undoubtedly true. But I don't see how this is going to get us anywhere

That's unlucky

Many factors are not included in the judgement of those labels. Where you come from for example. Your background. Your skincolor. Your families inheritance (reputation for example within close community) As I said. These are just labels and they ever only come up when people can't argue anymore so they have to find all kinds of ways to attack a person or group of persons who don't share their opinion. They don't know your true age but because of your behavior you are fitting into category X. Now even if it isn't true that you are part of that then the labeling you as such is supposed to have even greater power over you as in "Oh wow you aren't even from that generation and yet you behave like them you are even worse haha". It's just hilarious. Just pay no attention to.imdividuals who resort to these. They can't argue anyway

It's another label to differentiate a certain group of people. I don't follow it fully but in the end those labels are used as tools to elevate some groups above others. Just another power tool of people who are otherwise powerless.

They know the concept. What they are shocked about is how unhinged some people are when describing their opinions.

That really sucks for you.

Rrha ki ra biron wael wasa. Rrha ki ra chs hymmnos mea. Rrha ki ra ene sos yor. Was yae ra chs hymmnos, la glasden yehah!

Gdansk most broken DD release for a while. Lol. Who cares about low tiers. just fxp

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If there is one thing I learned after all this time being a CV main and starting to play surface ships more is that most people who complain about CVs just commit bad plays and blame it on CVs. My solo performance in cruisers and DDs has skyrocketed and according to most people who consider the game unplayable with CVs in the game that must make me a god or something. As clearly I don't have these issues. Surely all these CV potats are at fault. Just look at this replay render. I was focused by this Nakhimov player for all the game, a sub tried to shotgun me and a Yamato that over matches me tried his luck. But I somehow got 6 kills and I guess the CV players game was ruined https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389139468159811584/1131339502451961917/render_39961679.mp4

I find it funny how people here discover this but don't see all the other much bigger gaming companies doing this years before WG even started. WG is small fish in a giant ocean.

Don't play around. You know exactly what I'm talking about.