Yosha_AtaIante

All ships that are WiP will not be allowed to be shown to early in the development cycle. They will be able to play and test them but officially releasing information before a certain date will not be allowed. That information is specific details about the ship. I think subjective statements like "it's a good ship/op ship/up ship, has good torps/guns) will still be allowed.

The tone how criticism is offered matters. It's beyond toxic currently.

They are released for them to test. Making content on them 1-2weeks before release is totally fine. The community is out of control lately and CCs handled it all like crap. It's alright this way.

Until late stages of development yes. CCs still get them but aren't allowed to release content on them is all. Don't misunderstand the information and spread misinformation please.

Where did you pull that one out of? What does it have to do with WiP stuff?

I'm saying it's a waste of time. Is all. All the burden of proof is on you anyways. How come we have such a low amount of complaints if CV's are majorly hated? Why aren't more people telling WG in the forums how unfun the CVs are? Why are the people who discuss the "fun" aspect of CV's on reddit the same names as we find here and mostly no other names? What makes your "fun" more valuable then mine? We could go in circles forever but it's pointless. Everyone feels fun differently and it's in the hands of WG alone. Their spreadsheet combined with their judgement dictates where the game is going and they sometimes even give you a hand by buffing what isn't needed to be buffed (look at Kurfürst/German BBs). But lately the community instead of adapting to the changing game complains way to much and most of the complainers are players who struggle anyway regardless of CV presence. It's an easy way to excuse one's bad performance. The "fun" and T4 argument is the only argument the anti CV corner has left and the T4 argument is also slowly beginning to die out. So we are back at all your feelings. Noone cares about your feelings. And I mean your feelings as in a minority of players spending their time telling us about them on the forums. Who are the same people over and over the whole year long.

No, this is different. Everything has a limit and how the community behaves lately is crossing the limit. You are lucky WG is as nice as they are considering how they handle the forums. There are a few other games I play where they run the forums much differently and the community appears much friendlier because of it. You can justify whining at WG after they release something. But things that are clearly WiP and are currently in testing (with 10sec radar btw which is utterly useless) does not justify your hostility and toxicity infused stance towards WG and other players who support WG's way of doing things. So far they haven't made anything new that killed the game in any way or destroyed it looking at it from an objective stats and sales perspective. Most of the things you think are happening are your own headcanon.

That is true. But can you afford to simply move on with that DD staying near you annoying you with guns and torp salvos while being unspotted and later simply taking the cap you are moving away from? There is no DD that doesn't pose a threat in the right hands. The enemy DD that you've pushed out should have known his weakness, reacted accordingly and positioned differently and get the cap later on.

Serves them right. They have made to many and to drama spreading remarks about clear WiP content in development. Instead of shrugging first stat presentations off and explaining clearly that those are very likely to be changed and tested and nowhere near final the responses of certain CCs was an overreacting fiesta with the aim to ridicule and rile up the community more against WG and as we all know drama sells and brings in viewers. With the restrictions coming that should be put to an end now.

No player worth their salt should care about mindless players throwing meaningless reports around. Especially if these kind of players think that every DD's role is to go straight for the caps regardless of their gimmicks.

I haven't played them myself yet but it would be advised to make the enemy know you are around and then play around the influence that you will get by the enemies knowledge of you being around. If they don't account for you you remind them by firing with your guns. Constantly spam torps. Make sure you stay on the side of their ships where the guns aren't pointing at and if they start chasing you youlet them chase you while going dark waiting for them to re-engage other targets. You have a heal. It's perfect for such a playstyle. Get the caps after they moved on to make them turn back. Don't rush caps early. Let the enemy take it and then annoy them if they try to move on to the next one.

That it's still the same people and no new ones is proof that CV's are fine and Noone else but these same guys are upset about them. @Sunleader You cant discuss what is fun because everyone individually sees different things as fun. It's a waste of time to go in depth about it. I for example don't care if anyone finds CV's fun. The fact that they are going to stay in the game means one better adapts around them or if the anti fun CV's are to strong for them to endure just quit or take a break instead. Because CV's will stay. Will they get tweaked? Maybe. Will they continue to be unfun for certain players? Very likely. Will there be players who like CV's? Very likely. Some may hate them some may love them. Discussing that is meaningless. @Europizza It's good that they got tired of it. If the truth starts to smell so badly (Like BS) to them it's only healthy to stay away and shelter oneself from it. Nothing new but at least it's nice and quiet now.

Hello. I don't think discussing the subjectivity of "fun" is really helpful. It serves only as a venting ground since there are quite a few people who have fun and who aren't complaining or you don't see complaining because of that simpel fact. Also saying that T4 is unplayable is kind of a lie too. Not only is it playable but also it is populated by all classes. Which indicates that it is actively played.

I did and it took me a bit of time. Right to left

I can teach you live ingame. Replays won't help you.

That's just how it is then. I can't help you if you insist on CVs being this powerful. It's always easier to blame a game mechanic to use as an excuse to not even try. CVs have advantages in target selection choice. But their victims also have choices to make which can deal with a CV problem. If you are unwilling to learn even though help is offered and rather point at the raw advantages of the class you don't enjoy playing against then nothing will ever change. Also reach at least 3k battles. By then not only will your stats normalize to better scores (possibly above 52% would be nice) but you will also see the game a bit differently.

I never said that you aren't allowed to have an opinion but for you to increase your understanding in a whole different gamemode than coop is important for you to be able to have an easier time against what is thrown at you in randoms including CVs.

You can do things. I can teach you. Hit me up if you are ever interested. Also I checked, you have not even yet reached 1.5k random battles. Get some pure experience there for more battles before tackling the more difficult stuff in the game.

Yes. It's like those BB devstrikes happen once a month to me. It's not like you get AP bombed by Shoukaku every day either.

Hello. Should I now post pictures where I get devstruck by BBs too?

#NoRiskNoGame Capped B first because noone else did

don't bulli Q_Q

Not a CV. Sorry but it clearly talks about CV. :D

Hello. I agree. That's why from now on I take risks. #NorRiskNoGame