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Oh yes, it was fascinating.. (fascinating how damn stupid subs mechanics are and how badly subs are implemented in the game ) Must be some lost in translation issue..

Haha, yeah I wonder what they actually are trying to communicate.. How difficult ? How much fun ? How complicated ? Next question is a laugh too Why even ask ?

Yeah, u need some speed too, not like any sluggish ship is gonna make great dodges, maybe Andrea Doria, Roma, Scharnhorst and a couple more Did manage some real nice dodges in the Mackensen couple of days ago, kiting away / last sec wiggle and dmg con technique, evaded 2 sets of ping locked torps, Mackensen has fast reload dmg con Turning into them u are more likely to get them all to land on your bow, flooding, possible dmg saturation will save u until he reloads

Think they may have "forgotten" about that info on the minimap

Good question, viewed quite a bit of Flambass and Mr__ Gibbins larking around with subs on Twitch stream, they for sure were wreaking havoc on the enemy team Myself I find them difficult to handle, I am an highly average player 52%, Played like 5 battles in coop and one or 2 in random I mostly get very limited damage, did get lucky and sank a Dunkerque in random

Think he means if they disappear if u dont use them..

I have 11 at the moment But I only ever reset one line, waste of time

Only ever played like 4 battles in the Andrea Doria, was always uptiered and didn´t think much of it Real nice ship tho, handles like a cruiser, Ryujo was going mad at me, didn´t do much damage but ended up top of the list 29 planes Must have been new CV player

OK, so I went against my "closed wallet" principal, bought the Brandenburg.. Yeah I had downed a few beers.. Not a bad ship, 2 secondary kills, a loss tho

Yes, in the hands of a skilled player they are OP Also if u have a large skill gap between the sub player on green team vs red team the team with the noob is at a great disadvantage Like CV:s the Submarine class has a disproportional effect on game outcome

Quoting myself.. This goes for submarines too

The MM is rubbish, it doesn´t care about player skill/experience at all A team of total noobs vs a team of seasoned players, ship-wise it may look pretty fair but looking at the total amount of games and experience the teams have it differs a lot, one team may have an average of like 500 games while the other team has an average of 5000 games, it doesn´t automatically mean that 500 game players are rubbish and the 5k player are experts but that the experienced team will win in like 90% of these games The random(ness) of the thing is that a total noob/clown can end up in the better team and thus get a win that way even a beginner/noob/rubbish player can have a 30-40% winrate And yes, a rubbish CV on your team vs a good CV on the other team and u have a massive disadvantage no matter how good the rest of your team is

What it would need ? I would say all of these but perhaps 2 of them would be a fair buff: More HP More speed Faster reload Better firing angles for main guns Better sigma / dispersion Better AA

Yeah, once in 10 games you will find someone that you can outgun in a brawl Pity they didn´t give it torps It would have been a monster at tier 8

I kinda like the Hizen, dunno why tho, it ain´t a very good ship List of "Not good at" is long: 1: Tanking.. well if u have a full tank build, stay out of the way of 456 and up and also stay angled at all times, yeah then u perhaps will hold a flank (unless there is some long range HE spammer which there almost always is) 2: Guns.. Yeah, it has a nice shotgun type broadside but getting all 12 out goes against point 1: Angled at all times (u wont be breaking the angled rule often tho coz reload is so slow) 3: Its a bit slow compared to most ships at that level but rudder shift and turning circle are pretty good, helps u staying angled 4: HP.. well Musashi 97.3k, Izumo 78.9k and Hizen 75.9k worst of the Japs Compared to other low HP ships most of them have some gimmick, Jean Bart 69k (speedboost and reload boost) Lepanto 75.9k (fuelsmoke) Missouri 78.3 (radar), Georgia 71.4 (speedboost, and fast reload heal), Freddy 84.3k (secondaries, sonar), Alsace 74.7k (speedboost), Lion 68k (superheal) lol even the Kronstadt has 71k and apart from being tanky has a 12 km/30 sec radar Maybe the reason I like it is coz it looks good..

Seem to remember Silent Hunter 2 from 2001-2002, was pretty good.. In 2001 the graphics were of course dogsh_t but the game itself was challenging and fun The "Submarine" gameplay WG are trying to implement is more like underwater speedboats, anyone remember the animated series "Stingray" ? It was better than WG:s sub idiocy

hmm.. We can always hope

Subs poorly implemented, its a bloody joke, submarine main strength has always been stealth, attacking from periscope depth, diving and evading, why not try to make that work instead of insane speed and guided torps with laughable ping mechanics

No, I don´t think it´s intentionally rigged, more like the matchmaker is not programmed to use player skill/experience as a factor to balance teams, we are getting one team with 10k total games and the other team with 50k games, therefor the blowout games

Hmm.. Yeah, think that is WG:s point of view on the whole "feedback" debacle

First WG should change the name to "Shoot em up".. Agree, it´s rubbish, games are over way too fast, bot DD:s rush in uselessly wasting their smoke and suicide to friendly cruisers, bot cruisers show broadside and die 30 secs later, friendly DD:s yolo in and torp the out of everything left afloat, bot CV:s miss 99% of their attacks and do 0 damage and then they run for the map border, good luck if u are in a slow BB like Colorado or some other lumbering hunk of junk you wont even get close before its over, perhaps u get lucky sniping the CV ? Maybe higher skilled BOTs that didn´t suicide would help and a bit of "coop"eration would be needed to win

American 10p John Doe commander is available in the armoury for 35k coal (George Doe with the same skills for 1500 dubloons) Both have enchanced "Gun feeder" and "Grease the gears" skills Would say you may need a bit better captain at tier 10 tho, preferably 17-18p

Dunno i get them too I uninstalled PTS a while back, since WG don´t care about feedback it was a pointless waste of space Cv rework, Captain rework, fantasy shiplines, subs, tier 9-10 in the premium shop, dunno what is worst ? All adds up tho, it´s a mess and its getting worse

Have a load of ships tier 5-10 so I been grinding the snowflakes mostly in coop, bit tedious but it has generated loads of "goods" German BB:s, well with saved up community tokens exchanged for german tokens and the tokens from the personal challenges I managed to get 4 German battlecruisers tier 3-4-5-6 Often have some twitch stream running in the background, it does generate signals, camos and missions, at the moment I (apparently) have 18 combat missions and the personal challenge for german tokens and coal running Dont really look too much at what other missions are going on, war hammer, transformers, twilight zone etc. could hardly care less.. Played 1 "saving transylvania" game, 0 stars, team was rubbish, disappointed even if I personally did get a good score, why not something new ? Playing (and failing) with beginners that never played the event before is just frustrating, it´s not like it´s all that complicated but in the end it is a bit "old" and was only fun the first season Havn´t touched Italian cruisers or Russian CV:s nor did I play any subs Picked up the Napoli for coal, havn´t played it yet Yeah, there is a bit too much going on but if it´s fun or somehow worthwhile then do it, the rest, even without focus some crates, signals, camos or whatever will "occur" and that is just a bonus, if not, well..

MM would most likely do a better job if it was 100% random Lol, pretty sure more than a few would improve.