NothingButTheRain

I'd still want a ship commander with an Arnold Schwarzenegger voice! If they ever release a captain like that, then my funds are turminated!

True, but tbh I was thinking about this from my own perspective, of what I could expect after next patch hits. Yesterday I was spamming some coop and actually got teamkilled several times. It's uncommon to get teamkilled even in coop, but this happened 3 or 4 times. granted, half the times I would have been dead anyway but it happening so often in just one day will make me remember this as next patch hits and I might see a new kind of griever play (or actually stop playing because what's in it for him now that he turned pink which obviously was totally not his fault). But will be nice if the bots would at least stop teamkilling me WG is however important in this as they control the game.

From a few days ago. Nice

One thing WG might not have thought about is that if someone turns pink and won't get any economical bonusses, they have very little reason to not suicide or leave early, which would leave that team with a 1 player disadvantage.

I don't think I specced anything into AA atm? Before the commander rework I did actually play a couple cruisers with (troll) AA builds (with DefAA) but either I gave up on the build or those captains remain unspecced since the mass reset I did post commander rework. For some reason I never end up with any spare points or having a (percentage) buff to already poor AA is meaningless anyway. Only thing I do is take fighter plane instead of spotter on some of my ships.

I've recently (like, a few days ago) tried 2 bot teams: 11 Scharnhorsts vs 11 Alaskas. The Alaskas won big time because the Scharnhorsts didn't push in. Not sure if there are some ai settings I could have changed but I do like to mess around in training room from time to time. I've also played battles like me in a t2 IJN DD vs unarmed Izumos. Even without shooting it became a race to prevent them from reaching 1k points. One Conqueror (me) vs 12 of those USN t3 cruisers, this was a really tough one if only because they only became spotted once they got within their own firing range. Or weird carrier games, etc. I'm glad this game has a training room to mess around with. Too bad the 60 minute option doesn't seem to exist anymore.

The very first 2 games I tried my then brand new Yoshino (both being coop games), in both I detonated by the first bot that shot at me before I even got to use my torps

But I am going to be honest with you. Personally I don't think Ise will have a very profound effect on the game and personally I'm also glad these hybrid ships are added to the game, if only because these ships fascinated me even back when I was a kid. I even tried making a hybrid battleship-carrier for a totally different game (I failed because of lack of modding knowledge back then). Heck, even a battlestar is in essence a battleship+carrier hybrid But the premium ship nerfery, I have my doubts. I understand the potential advantages of this as well but my doubts stem mostly from stuff that isn't even directly related to wanting to balance a game or a particular ship. Who is to say that they won't nerf a premium I bought yesterday just to start selling an unnerfed clone tomorrow?

Actually, 107m coal in my case All that extra coal going into my very deep pockets ^This. If you're swimming in credits and can literally purchase several complete tech trees and still have ample credits left, you really won't miss the credits. And I always spend my coupons for use of signals for credits even though I don't have a shortage of those signals either (usually just to stay above 100 spare signals, if it isn't to stay above 200 spare signals). I mean I don't even need the signals, but I buy the signals anyway because I don't want to waste the coupons and I got plenty credits. And I'm not even Flamuu-rich

What's the stats for the Recruiting Station camouflages anyway? Even though I've claimed countless recruiting crates for my recruits (I have to accept half the crates even though I don't really need them) I've never had these seemingly elusive camos drop from them.

I kinda have to agree with the OP. Playing a JB with 1 other human and seeing I'm literally the only BB in the team with the rest filled up with DDs and Cruisers is kinda questionable. But this only goes for matches which have bots on the human team. Regarding the full human teams DDs and BBs seem the most commonly played classes in coop.

Ise is nerfable.

Then he could actually be the more preferred choice as this would free up Karel Doorman's name for the 2 carriers

The Italian cruisers, the Russian battleships even (even though the ships themselves are good, I feel more like having to depend too much on a bunch of blindfolded baboons with about 1 in 3 players being actually decent, but spread out over both teams very irregularly), the new USA BB line. The only line that I kinda enjoyed playing randoms with fairly recently, is the Russian cruiser lines except the tier 8 ones. It is more the commander rework which made me question whether I find it worth it to spend my time in this game. Not even the reworked skillset, but more the seemingly arbitrary increase in the needed amount of grind, which has made my time spend in the game basically getting halved in importance along with seeing my vast stash of ECXP getting vaporized really quickly with no gain in added fun from my perspective whatsoever. The only good and consistent lines imo are the russian ones except for their DDs which I don't like. The rest is mostly one trick ponies. The removal of signals for rewards has also caused me to play certain ships not anymore, along with their captains not even gaining ECXP anymore so it's 'cheaper' for me to simply abandon playing those ships altogether.

This. Just save up the coal if there isn't anything for purchase with it that you like.

Well, tbf I could have worded that a bit better. Props for pointing that out. Just to clarify, I am not stating it as my opinion that I think these consumables are fine as is.

Karel Doorman is the only Dutch admiral that is an obvious choice afaics. All the other famous ones were from the sailing era I think (with obviously Michiel de Ruyter because if it hadn't been for him, chances are good The Netherlands wouldn't even have existed as a separate country these days, that's how important he was for The Netherlands now.)

Personally I tend to also see it roughly in a similar way. This Friesland was post WW2 and during that era the Dutch were not trying to build a solo fleet anymore, but started getting more engaged with working together with other nations. Btw, what did you mean with the "If you see on how many posts this thread has you know they did not so good job on this." part? And agreed with you on Groningen, it should never be a nerfable Friesland. I would have preferred seeing Friesland with the Dutch tech tree and perhaps a different ship with the EU? But tbh I don't really see how any other solution can be done with full satisfaction for any party involved. Personally I don't mind the split of Friesland and Groningen, my FXP is ready! (but if it becomes nerfable I will at first ehh...keep my hand on the cut

I can't wait for Karel Doorman to be added to the game! Along with the Dutch carrier Karel Doorman and the other Dutch carrier Karel Doorman! (yes there were 2 Dutch CVs named Karel Doorman, one being a CVE and the second being a Colossus class CVL)

I see it as a generic message more these days and I actually value the information it gives. They can be happy with the deto award, I care less about that but the message always gives me a chuckle and sometimes even a tear I vote to leave it in, if only for that. See it as a reverse solo warrior

Good question. But my guess would be (and I'm going into presume-lands now) that this does prevent the game from getting spammed with even more 'low' damage air attacks. The only way to make this consumable relevant while decreasing alpha, is to increase the number of consumables and decrease the cooldown.

They know. They really do

Oooh, I usually never see you write a quality post like this here, but I feel like this one can be actually pretty accurate I think you hit very close to the mark with this one, honor given when honor is due. Despite all of my reservations, I'm still interested to know how subs will affect the number of DDs played. Without subs I'd change your list by swapping the 2 subs with 2 more DDs and it would be a fairly good mirror image of todays meta except that you forgot about the russian batt...I mean russian cruisers.

Or do what I do and play mostly just coop as to preserve a sense of fun within the game, lets waste time for barely any benefits whatsoever! Well, it's not actually completely true that I don't play randoms anymore. Sometimes I div if asked by someone or if I really want to play a certain ship again. But tbh, I spend most of my time someplace else these days.