NothingButTheRain

Yes, gimme gimme gimme the mighty san-shiki!

I really really 'need' the USS Roanoke! (CL-145). Yes! Well in all fairness, Cherry will most likely be back. But this ship seems pretty much perfect for Cherry. Only question is...will the operations get nerfed before their return?

Yes, this can help a LOT! And know when to smoke and when not to smoke, use your consumables sparcely and only when it matters. Don't throw them away like a spammernoob or whenever a plane gets within 6km of your position (especially torp/dive bombers you often don't even need to smoke, especially if you followed my other tips of staying closer to allies instead of rushing like a n00b ). I wasn't 1st place as often yesterday as I was the day before (only once, and yes it was also a win and a carrier game. And got reported LOL but whatever that just seems to be wows 2019 thing or something) but I still did fairly well and didn't die once. I actually seem to perform worse in a non-carrier game as most people know that meta a lot better.

To me knowing what tools to pick and applying it a little differently is just part of gitting gut

Yamamoto on Yamato (and also use him for Musashi, Mutsu and Tachibana Lima lol) Dunkirk on Conqueror. The other Dunkirk I can't remember where I put him. Halsey on Iowa, but will use on Montana once I get her. Also use him for Missouri and Texas. Honoré I think I moved back to Richelieu or put him on the HIV? The special Russian commander, I think on my Moskva? The special German commander was on my Bismarck I think, mostly for secondary missions. Also use him on my Scharnhorst on which Vigilance is a really good skill to use, but expensive at 3 points. USN Ovenchicken is on my Benson. Also use him on my Sims and my Black. USSR Ovenchicken was on my Donskoi, but moved him to another ship now as Donskoi is elited now. Rang is on the tier 6 DD.

This is basically my dilemma atm. After having elited my Hatsuharu (which did not use any special AA, I just changed the way I played the ship a bit compared to how I played Fubuki before the rework), I started my Benson grind. Also to prove a point and as I wanted to see if this CV change was really THAT bad and because I still firmly believe that DD is the most OP class in the game (except for carriers as this could literally go any way now lol). And because I like a challenge. A few days ago I switched my usual Benson for a partially AA build and I can make her work without being able to shoot down scores of planes. The latter only works if I get a tier 6 CV and he keeps feeding me planes. Most shot downs was 23 or so, but the second most was maybe 6 planes or less, iirc. But it keeps the enemy CV occupied to first let the CV hit me once, then smoke up and enable DefAA with 150% to the other side so suddenly his planes takes a LOT more damage. Usually the CV player will think "Oh crap!" and gtfo. Some will loiter but will give up once he catches me a in another puff of smoke a few minutes later, only this time I deliberately disable AA and hold fire so he loiters aimlessly above my smoke which takes like 1 1/2 minutes before it will disssipate. I like the psychological aspect of this (yes I like using my brain ) and it seems to work out very well. So for the time being I'll probably continu playing DD until the other DD players also start to get the hang of the new DD meta and team red also gets a valuable DD player again instead of one who yoloes to B, gets shot up by rockets and complains about how OP carriers are and the obligatory PLZ NURF WARGAMMING! So instead of complaining, I decided to just git gud

A rule of thump I would like to add is that once you got the majority of the caps and time is in your teams favor, denying enemies kills and caps which will lead to a win is alsoa good rule of thumb. It's not about no cap kill all (or at least most of the time )

The port UI sluggishness is on WG end. I actually did a clean install for 8.0 and I have the port freezes and black screens as well. It was already infuriating at times (particularly when trying to set up a division for operations and when trying to chat someone post-battle because I want to write someone a compliment in addition to just +1 the guy) but since 8.0 I get freezes lasting up to 20 seconds regularly, including the screen turning completely black and generic unresponsiveness that comes back regularly. Sometimes I get multiple of these freezes a minute, what is this? For a multiplayer game the chat functions have become really bad to use

I totally agree with this Now ftr, I do like to go rambo style now and again (and in coop one can go rambo all they want, though that game mode has its own issues) but I see all too often someone rushing towards the enemy spawn, die, complain about "Why u no support? Go play lego!" and I'll just report them for bad chat silently. But it is telling of the kids that seem to play this game a lot? Well actually, it seems to me like there's actually quite a bit of WoT players in WoWS and most of those were sick of playing WoT for whatever reason. But I seem to see more of the flaming I used to see in WoT a lot and a couple weeks ago someone even brought it to my port and started sending me more hate messages. It was the WoT experience all over again So if I feel inclined and I see someone flaming someone else (like a bottom tier Bayern who was actually trying and the flamer who died like a rusher n00b and cried for no support) flaming teammates and saying stuff like "U STOOPED NUB, UNINSTALL" or "GO PLAY TETRIS!" I'll respond to him with something along the lines of "Go play WoT you'll feel right at home there" or just a plain "This is not world of tanks. You gonna post-battle harrass the bottom tier dude in his harbor too?" or whatever happens to make my day. I hope those poeple disappear from WoWS. My port UI is dying due to the amount of WoT Babies my blacklist has to carry I'd rather see this type of complaining as a gaming feature exclusively to WoT. It was actually part of the reason why I left WoT. I mean I got multiple messages a day in my garage about go uninstall because I had the audacity to cap the enemy base It's pointless to add those to my blacklist as the stream of new harrassers is endless. Yes I took these guys advice and deleted WoT from my PC I thought they had a great game with great potential when I started playing WoT. And that sure turned to shat 5 years later. And I'll be watching the GC developments veeeery closely now. I don't want to see another stalingrad 'messup'

Now come on, can hand out salt but can't take any? We both know people like you 2 see both BB player and BBaby as 100% interchangable when you have noone watching your back. And aboominations postcard sure looks cute, but on twitch he seems like a totally different person. He also doesn't seem to know the difference you pointed out. I saw him mention that thanks to this rework, his DDs are all port queens now? It was meant as a complaint to wargaming but when I went to check his stats (his most recent ones, just to clarify) all he had played was one game in his JB and lots of games in his brokenkuryu And yes, the average skill level is about equal between all classes (except maybe for the pre-rework carriers, which was a class on its own). And did you really not like my DD games? Or having to git gud? EDIT: And did you hide your signature now? You know, the one you made with the WG can't patch BBaby brains stuff?

I'm having fun actually! The last days I've basically played nothing but DDs and particularly Benson is my new love for the moment after having elited Hatsuharu (also post rework). Benson VIII 11 72.73% Super Unicum 1 617 Very Good 36 803 0.73 3.27 All solo games btw. Today 3 games, 2 of which were carrier games and both of these had tier 8 carriers. Just seek an AA ship and stay close at first. It's just a matter of gitting gut and adapting for DD players. No more yoloing at the border and no more EZ mode for the most buffed class of ships in the game, DD-only players will need to start using their brainz from now on and I like it!!! I even lost count how many buffs DDs have received now but the latest one is planes not being able to spot my torps anymore. How unfortunate for my foes Even Flambass said that the average skilllevel of DD players was abysmal. WG can keep buffing DDs until the death of the universe, but WG can't patch DD-only player brainz I'm sure BBaby haterz like @Deckeru_Maiku and @aboomination would approve, give me some of your karma now boyz! And 3rd game today was not as great, but still a win and I managed to torp a Balancedgrad who was part of a 3-man division

But you won't get instanuked anymore. Isn't that what these certain DD-only players wanted in the first place?

I don't really see the problem here. These campaign missions usually states that it can be completed using tier 9 or 10 destroyers or carriers. Or tier 9 or 10 cruisers and carriers. There's no tier 9 carriers but that's kinda irrelevant, as that pasticular mission will only be limited to certain tiers and certain classes. If an individual doesn't have a tier 9 or 10 DD for a certain mission, he can't play that mission. It won't matter in the end if for him, tier 9 and 10 DDs actually esist or not. I noticed these discriptions in the campaigns, but it doesn't really disturb me in any way.

Do like this: Carrier game? If yes, then go look for nearest friendly ship with good AA (like a DM, Wooster, Seattle or Stalingrad), F3 them and move to within 2km asap (but without using speedboost). Bonus if said AA ship also has radar. Second price is for something with hydro due to the more limited range. Range is everything here. Keep an eye out for what enemy planes are doing at first. Enemy planes starting hammering down the friendly DD rusher n00b? Then you start doing your usual cap-approach thang (and ask for help. If no friendly AA unit wishes to accompany you or move towards your suggested cap, stay with convoy/guard duties of AA unit until they change their mind). Depending on skill level of enemy carriers, you can loosen the leash a bit or stay near till enemy carrier looses patience and starts throwing its planes upon allied AA wall and then do your thing. Cap as usual, as long as there's no planes nearby, everything is basically as it always was except that no planes can spot your torps anymore. Before entering the cap, ask if your AA cruiser minion want a smoke and give them one. It's good for their long term health and thus also for yours If your AA cruiser minion host dies, find a new AA cruiser minion host ASAP and stay low until you do or until the end game. If your AA cruiser minion host decides to run away, follow the AA cruiser minion host and resume convoy/spotting duties for it. Rinse repeat till all potential hosts are dead or until the end game. I think the rest is more like usual game without any carriers, except I tend to prefer capping more I think? At the end game, you'll know what you have to do as it's actually often the most interesting part of a match and individual skill gets more influential for the outcome.

The UI is the face of the game. I think it was dumb to having ignored this problem for so long.

So you don't get freezes lasting up to and more then 10 seconds, after which the screen will actually turn black for a couple more seconds and Windows thinks the program has locked up? The UI is so laggy these days, I stopped adding very good players to my contact list to quickly send them a grats message in port because it takes a minute to even just open up my contact list these days and the moment is gone by then

Looks like you inherited a copy of my team I had recently? Except I did wayyyy less damage then you Nicely done anyway

The thing is, I can understand perfectly fine that this move can look very dubious, especially when you see them first making an OP premium and selling it as such, then enticing people to buy tons of these crates last december in order to get the rare ones (which doesn't necessarily mean these are also the OP premiums in the game) and then nerfing it a few months later. This is why I will keep an eagle eye on their future premium releases. Of course if they continu releasing and selling new OP premiums, my trust in them will dissipate really quick I bought my GC from the shop, for euros. But I think you should get the full reward regardless of how you got the ship. Getting the ship in a crate is a reward in a way and the premise of a potential reward may be seen as a reason to play and or buy.

I think epicenter is great fun! So speak for yourself, you don't represent more then your mouse and keyboard here on the internet It's actually quite funny and a bit disturbing seeing all these (ex-)DD mains complaining about the radar changes which they themselves whined for for so long now. Now getting radared means you won't get targetted by 6 enemy ships right away anymore and all I can see them do is even more complaining Radar was always much less of a problem, especially the shorter ranged USN CLs are easy to avoid (just move away from them and get de-radared in a few), it's the long range Russian radar that I find more nasty. Wooster used to be able to stealth radar. Now the difference between maximum conceilment and its radar is 800 meters, quite a substantial nerf. Getting hit once is enough to loose all progress on my capping and Rusky railguns (especially the accurate railguns) are more than adequate for this purpose. That's quite funny actually, as I've changed in the exact opposite order! I went from Russian cruisers to playing DDs I basically played nothing but my Benson yesterday and finally managed to get that campaign mission for 10 plane kills. Took like 5 or 6 battles or so? Because it was hard to get into a carrier match and have the enemy carrier constantly attack me in favorable circumstances (for my DefAA to shoot the remaining 4 of them down lol). What I don't like about this build is that it depends so much on an enemy carrier being in the game AND attacking me (as often a friendly AA cruiser would follow me towards the cap and I'd rather not piss those off for doing their jobs and go beyond that even). Without DefAA it seems a lot harder and I'm not sure I wanna give up radar on the Black just yet. But Benson without accuracy upgrade and 4 guns instead of 5, it's quite a lot to give up in order to get Benson carrier-ready Just fyi. The main reason the old 90 second 20% reduction signal flags were considered useless is because the 90 seconds would actually outlive the cooldown time of the damage control consumable, thus making the 20% reduction completely moot. If anything, the only ships I found this signal of any actual use is any ship with a superheal and that's about it. If anything, the one ship that will most negatively (but still not really that significantly) be affected by this change for me, will be my Conqueror.

Mischievous kid gets cought doing something with parked cars? Then gets all dominant rooster because he can't accept not being the dominant person? Then gets slammed to the ground and starts the REEEEE bit because he can NOT accept this reality? The REEEEE is due to cognitive dissonance, this kid is disturbingly defective. It even starts an ego salvage operation as admitting he is wrong is simply non-negotiable by this I can see where this meme now comes from, thanks.

This is what I said that you responded to. Now where's this question you saw me ask? I simply stated Stalingrad to be OP and hope it will be first in line after GC to be nerfed.

Both JB and Salem are good ships, but also high tier. I remember when I got my Missouri and my highest tech tree ship was a Mahan or Colorado or something Yes it makes a lot more credits but my Missouri stats will for always be tainted by my inexperience but I still had fun! oh well... But still, if you end up buying a high tier premium as an inexperienced player, count on it to be reminded by almost everybody that you need more practice first. BUT you can still play those premiums in high tier coop games. Not only will you get the hang of the high tier ships and gameplay (as in the new stuff like radar and such), but if you use all free consumables with a high tier premium in coop, you'll still make some credits every game Just remember that the Salem supposedly has tech tree earnings, so it's comparable to a tier 10 with permacamo. The JB however should have a somewhat higher credit multiplier. I don't have any other tier 10 premiums to compare Salem with and I played Salem just a couple times. But it appears to hold true so far. If you want a good premium for operations, good ones are Scharnhorst for tier 7 and perhaps De Grasse for tier 6 (I use tech tree tier 6 cruisers in ops usually. Only rarely take out my Mutsu). Atlanta is also a good choice but not an easy ship to get good results in. But ow my god, that ship is hillarious once you got a very good captain for her

Nelson is not a bad ship. It should (in theory) be excellent at tanking fire damage but her problem is that she will eat a lot of citadel and other irrepairable damage...making her superheal strong point kinda moot. I usually pick the resources containers. Those don't only contain the most coal, but also economic signal flags (the one you'll want is the Zulu, +20% credits). Another option I didn't mention, you could farm credits in operations, but do so preferably with organised groups. There's usually some people looking for a group in the official ingame operations channel (feel free to mention you are new so others know you still need to learn the ropes). The trick is to try to get a group ongoing that can systematically win and keep winning.

I clicked before reading the warning. REEEEEEeeeeeeeeee.........

Now, I don't pretend to be the best DD player in the world. But really? Benson AA module and build, tier 10 game, not even 22k damage done, almost 50% more BXP than the second best in my team, wait what?