NothingButTheRain

Scharnhorst!

What I do is to make a captain on a tech tree ship 19pt, and give it a build that will also work on at least one of my premium ships. For instance, my old Cleveland, Texas, Missouri and Atlanta used to all share the same captain (because for a long time it was the only 19pt captain I had) and later the captain got moved to my Wooster and I made a more specialised captain for my USN premium battleships (Iowa captain now). For my Cleveland also had bought the permacamo, so I could use it to gain more ecxp. So I basically didn't really need a tier 6 premium for the USN. Tier 6 permacamos are nice because these can be used for operations and it helps to gain extra xp for stuff like the daily crates and saves credits if you use the ship a lot. I've got permacamos for a lot of tier 6 ships, partially because I bought them when they were discounted (only 500 doubloons) and most I got due to specials like the christmas campaigns (which netted me something like 10 or so tier 6 permacamos?). I received permacamos for NM, QE, Nurnberg, Hatsuharu, LaGa, that tier 6 German DD that I didn't find very useful, the PA DD and some others. And at that tier, they kinda function like a premium, except that you can't freely swap commanders out.

Long time ago I suggested in the suggestions thread something like to be able to purchase commander facilities or admiral facilities for tech tree ships, which would basically turn it into a kind of premium ship. There were reasons why this wasn't exclusively liked but the idea itself is still nice I think

What was the reward for this test?

Which implies that all of these complaints thread are based on personal preference and not facts. The only fact I see here is that it's a fact that it's merely personal preference. When I get to complian about something (be it personal preference or fact, it's kinda irrelevant within the context of my next example, so), I hear a lot of statsshaming or toxicity or plain hypocrycy or "git gut". But they base it on their entitlement, which is based on nothing but their feelings and their feelings are only there for them. And perhaps most importantly is that these complaints will get voiced louder and louder the more these complainers feel like this will actually get things done, but when it doesn't get done their way they will still keep on complaining because they hidden their request behind the logic of the change being a needed nerf, while it's a balanced mechanic that they simply don't feel happy about. Just look at the changes to radar. The argument was that you get radar and then instantly blapped by 16 red ships. So WG changes radar so you won't get instablapped instantly...and they are still complaining because they wanted a nerf which they won't get because radar was never broken or OP in the first place. And the same about Conqueror. Many of these people complain due to its HE them getting burned to death. But what happens a lot is people (even battleships) putting out a single fire, shoot another salvo (so they are spotted longer) and then get 3 fires on them (so their spotting range also increases) and focussed and die. So they come to the forums and shout and cry until WG hears their "arguments" and nerf Conqueror. But of course there is nothing to nerf here as Conqueror isn't overpowered anyway, so WG changes Conqueror and because WG listens to the wrong people, Conqueror will get changed in such a way that probably nobody will be happy with the changes. Because the vocal complainers wanted a nerf but didn't get any and the players of Conqueror geta different ship which is more like all the other tier 10 battleships (of which a part is probably a port queen because their playing style is already more similar and easier to loose interest in because of having played it so often already). What WG should do is (silently) not listen to those certain people anymore because this will in the end actually DECREASE the amount of complaining about stuff like this. And WG should listen to certain people who are actually knowing about stuff and are able to see beyond their own feeling and selfish personal interests. So this statement (and I do believe you here as I see all these complaints posts myself) is happening. But it's not like that if some issue is voiced the hardest, that it will always be a wise thing to actually listen to it. Don't forget that the majority is stupid and that many of them will simply lemming along whichever way is the easiest for them and whatever can dumb down and change the game in their favor...just so they can get an even stronger feeling of self-entitlement and then the circle starts anew. Think of the little kid that starts crying because he wants a cookie and the cookiejar is too high for him to reach. What do you think will happen if the parent then thinks the kid actually needs the cookie and hands the little kid a cookie? Next day the kid will cry some more for another cookie. And the more you give in to this, the more often it will continue. What the parent should do is to not give in to the crying, not even if the crying intensifies after the initial denial of the "needs" of the kid, because it is bad for the kid itself even though the kid doesn't realise this at this point. If anything, the whines you see may actually be the best reason to not change anything at all regarding the Conqueror and to keep it as is because it's already not OP and offers a totally unique playstyle for the game and yes there are people liking the Conqueror and no not all of these will be bbabies (I think WG should ban the use of such words, frankly).

Wrong again. There is such a thing as AP bombs and these can citadel certain targets, so it is a fact that citadels do not occur only due to misplays exclusively. But you are exclusing this possibility from the get go, apparently because you are riding the BBaby haterz bandwagon. At least you are moving more towards the truth by stating that you now find it a general rule of thumb. You're even ignoring the fact that Conqueror has the worst armor scheme of all tier 10 BBs (except for these certain weakspots on the Yamato) but you are happy to start with conceilment. Of course you would want to ignore the facts. You are excluding the distinct possibility that long range citadels will become easier to score on a Conq with raised citadel and you are ignoring that it's impossible to always keep an angle to all potential targets. You are ignoring that Conq has the least health of all tier 10 battleships and you are ignoring that even a single citadel will make Conqueror superheal kinda moot. And you are conceiling your true intentions for support for this nerf, very similarly to how Conflakes defended the Stalingrad vigorously because it was in his own interests to do so. And you seem no different in this regard. You want bad play to be punished? Then where were you when BB AP pen got nerfed for DD players that messed up by getting spotted due to a misplay? (their misplay being a lack of situational awareness). No sir, for you it is not about merely wanting bad play to be punished so please refrain from pretending that this is the case.

Yes I know, you know? And actually, I have no idea where you are going with this whatsoever. I wasn't aware there was a hotfix incoming for tomorrow? But thanks for the headsup

First of all I'd like to remind you that your statement (this one) is simply YOUR opinion. It is NOT a fact, nor it is my own experience. But it is not a fact. Now regarding the average winrate between them remaining the same...could you please clarify what you mean by average winrate remaining the same? Did you mean this for all BBs? Or for all classes except CVs? Or all classes?

Erm, wrong! Nerfing the citadel of Conqueror will result in it taking more citadel damage no matter how you try to twist it. The heal was improved to compensate for it otherwise being a straight up nerf to the ship. And (as has already been mentioned) Conqueror armor is already among the worst of all tier 10 BBs. Good luck on your crusade vs this fictious BBaby infestation I keep hearing about from certain players.

This I hear from time to time but the heal is not getting a buff. It means it will basically heal more alike a Nelson and Nelson can usually not even use a lot of the healing potential because it will have sustained too much citadel/pen damage to do so. This change will make Conqueror eat more citadel damage, which is not more healable with the new heal. And Conq already eats a lot of the normal pen damage because its armor seems to be made of soft steel or something. The heal is only incredibly powerful if you get burned a lot (so it's the best tier 10 BB for tanking HE spam for the team) and it's not powerull enough right now to make it actually win games.

There is one potential flaw in your data, and that is that you excluded how the other tier 10 ships were affected. The drop may have come from the better players playing CV more, so that the averages dropped simply by this. I don't know if this is the case tho, but it may be. I seen other stats (I think it was ColonelPete?) who posted about a short peak of the number of CVs being played at the cost of the other 3 classes (which decreased in numbers played), so it may be important to include the numbers of the other classes. I don't believe it's because of magic BBs are already the class in the game with the least carrying potential and Conqueror most certainly does not needa nerf. I think much of the critisism comes from players who are most affected by getting hit by HE (especially since the BB AP nerf, I think you can guess what kind of players would complain about the Conqueror the most). Personally I think they should leave Conqueror as it is as it's not overpowered and because it offers a unique playstyle while all other tier 10 BBs focus mostly on AP and trying to shoehorn Conqueror in with the rest of the AP spammers would make it a mere slight different shade of grey.

This is true for all the ship classes and is not specific for DDs, but he makes it seem as if it is. I always found it an odd mechanic, but I thought it was just a wows thing. So yes, you are kinda right about this bit here. And no he is not right.

You forgot about reinstating stealth firing (but only for DD to keep the element of surprise). And about removing spotting torps from planes, BB AP pen and radar spotting + instablapping...oh wait. But seriously now, you want to dumb down the game even further? The spotting mechanism is a big part of the game and by removing it for DDs you are basically making them immune and impossible to retaliate against. Yes, you are certainly a veteran DD player, it's easy to tell yes.

Or detonating when any ship stays inside a smoke bubble for 30 seconds or longer and fires main guns, igniting the fumes :) Or just make an instagib server!

Well, I had actually written an entire report including screenshots but apparently the forums would have none of this and deleted ALL text. But it included all screenshots out of context, great! -_- I'll just dump the screenshots here then, I can't be arsed to re-write it all again seeing I'm already frustrated by this shitty experience so far Before: after: Not amused.

I'm nearly there

Was wondering the same thing. Though frankly, this time the changes don't seem to be very profound but I wish they keep the more unique maps as they are and change some of the more boring maps like mountain range instead. Or create new maps

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November Echo Setteseven (the +5% to AA damage) seems to be missing for coal. Only the credit one seems to be available. The econonic ones seem to be for coal only, which is fine by me.

I do want to add that the sound effects by themselves (when disregarding the issues with volume and such) do seem to sound more crisp and vibrant? I do like those changes. I hope the weird volume issues and the battle/explore music thingy does get changed. I don't know what exactly changed here.

You already had barely anything to do here even before the rework.

For a second there you had me confused. I thought that a checkbox is a box in which you can check (i.e. enable or disable, 1 or 0) and thus don't contain any sliders. I was looking for the checkboxes but couldn't find any near the sliders Anyway, I got ingame sound disabled completely (after having tried the ingame sounds with my brand new sparkling Alaska and then noticing the ingame music is somehow different in that it seemed toi switch soundtrack every few seconds, which was too mcuh and de-immersifying. I liked the old one where you basically get a soundtrack for one battle and it switches from exploring to battle and back to exploring etc, but with the same OST (except the last 5 minutes OST swap, which was cool imo). Now it seemd to be all over the place so now I listen to my own music (using media player and not the inmgame option). Frankly I find the port lag a much more severe problem as that cannot be avoided.

Nooooo! OP had me fooled for a couple seconds! Kirishima! I want your bod...err I meant, hull! I want your hull right next to me...my other ships in my be..port!

Just for clarity, you guys using the low quality or high or ultra sound quality?

I think I've figured out more about the causes of the slow ui. I've noticed a very substantial difference when using the same client for a secondary account of mine and on that account the ui lag is substantially less. I have a good suspicion that it is caused by the way the ui connects with your contact list and it may be that the client continuously checks for the online status of everybody on ythe contact list (and iirc even the ones on your blacklist?). Not only does having more contacts lag the ui more (because there could be no other way that using the exact same install for another "empty" account could cause such a significant drop in ui lag), but I also noticed that the severe ui lag gets a bit less severe when I closed the operations channel. I've known for longer that trying to open up my contact list takes a full minute, maybe longer. And on both my alt account and on my PTS account this opening of the contact list takes a lot less time as well. So it has something to do with the contact list (and probably the backlist as well). Perhaps it is to do with the way the game makes checks to see who on your contact list is online or something?