NothingButTheRain

It's about this part here: as I already mentioned here Because most people would not be able to do much in this situation and it's generally known that Shokaku really needed some help here. That Shokaku player is obviously frustrated and you basically try to prove him wrong by showing pics of what he could have done (and show a 75% winrate player). Btw, this is that German 75% winrate Shokaku player you are comparing him with, yes? That other CV player you put as an example did not not get stopped to top the board because he did stay, but because he was a wayyy above average player. And that makes your OP a rant mostly, because I do understand the frustration of the CV player that decided to leave. If you want to blame anyone, blame WG for making Shokaku a pain to play with the matchmaking we have recently have. Sure, it sucks if someone leaves but why ask for so much attention for something which unfortunately is actually quite standard? It's not uncommon for someone to be AFK in your team sooner or later. So why ask for this much attention? Why is this so important to you anyway? Just schrug it off and play next battle, tier 8 bottom tier carrier was quite horrible (thankfully it improved since most recent fix).

Hold on for a sec. Just to clarify, with "attempting to say", do you refer to staying in the game or staying at some spot on the map during a battle?

Yes. It's very quick. And it's Rusky DD powah. But it's not a valid reason why Kamikazes are not OP. The Kamikazes really deserve to get nerfed.

WoWS is a lot more friendly when it comes to what one can accomplish in this game. I got several tier NINE premiums and I basically got them for free! (well except for Missouri as I did convert for that). BUT...I have payed more cold hard cash to WoWS then I ever did in total for WoT. because I believe WoWS is more worth it compared to the commitment for WoT. And you perhaps underestimate how important crew skills are in WoT. I know (kinda?) about this BIA crew. Iirc the premium KV-2 came with sucha crew, but I don't follow WoT that much anymore. Seemed kinda a fruitless endevour seeing that every single attempt at restarting that game ended in me getting frustrated about the non-campy brawler-fest corridor maps, the TOXICITY both during the matches and post battle while in garage. I mean if one plays WoT like 10 battles a day, it is NORMAL if this happens EVERY DAY SEVERAL TIMES. How the heck can anyone find that fun? It's no wonder so many have already turned their backs on WoT because that game is truely not a fun game anymore. Now I know I'm drifting away from your points and I apologise for that. I just played 2 Aegis games in both my carriers. First game was some German in his PEF who kept shjooting more insults then he could fire shells. 4 star win and I got reported once. The second game some Dunkerque told me to not attack the Kongo but the Fuso, but the Fuso was much further away (meaning I could do a lot less damage), my carrier had gotten stuck ina weird way (I'll attach screenshot) and the Fuso was better guarded by AA so I lost all my torp bombers and got less damage. 4 star win. I got reported once. Again. Yes fun. After the second game (and seeing I got reported a second time for a 4 star win) I basically decided to report each and every teammate of mine. Let WG fix this somehow because I believe these 2 reports were totally undeserved. 2x 4 stars witha random bunch of n00bs. Oh well. Screenshot time! Enjoy me getting stuck in this whole ordeal

Wrong. Every player COULD have stayed. But that is not your point, right? Why did you add a screenshot of an unicum player and masquerade it as the contribution a mere average player would be capable of? Or wasn't this guy a 75% winrate unicum?

Yes I know. But my (counter)question is, then why add this screenshot in the first place? And if the answer is "because he can do this much if he had not suicided *shows screenshot of unicum playing CV*"" then his screenshot serves no purpose but to basically sidetrack what is really going on here.

I don't think I was biased here in that I found this change a terrible one that really should not have been implemented, it was a terrible mechanic and one that was intended to fix something but ended up needing fixes by itself and this kinda beat the whole purpose of this fix anyway. There was nothing biased about me on why I was against this change and I don't really care where you are seeing this (unless you have something substantial to bring. As in facts and not just your subjective opinion or fantasies or whatever they are). And you bringing up these babbies who were against this, it's just weird. Especially since this peoplegroup (which is of your own design) were complaining about something which was actually valid. WG found that this change was not worth fixing as it would become a huge mess so this changed was dropped (and rightfully so).

Comparing it to defender is kinda like comparing it to what is arguably one of THE most broken premiums in all of WoT. WoT has really become P2W, it is really that bad. It's not just the tanks but also the gold ammo and the crew skills which are also P2W. To me WoT is P2W and I don't want that. The IS-3A was not as OP, which is probably why not many people had it before it received an autoloader. But I guess we probably won't be agreeing on this here. Not that it matters much anyway, this isn't WoT (yet ).

Is this Shokaku player in your team by any chance a player with a German name and a Shokaku solo winrate of above 75%? Because you really can't compare unicums like that to the more average good players. Such unicums could probably even make a canoe work and would make your speach here kinda degrade into just another average rant about average players or certain ship classes said ranteer doesn't like, but camouflaged like it's a legit complaint.

Anyway, I made a post earlier today in which I made some quick calculations to see which ships can actually be considered truely OP. Imo OP means that it is possible to carry in this ship and the carrying potential is (substantially) better compared to its classmates (same class and tier). I checked the ships stats by looking at the performance of the top 25% (not only the elite, but how even more average players are able to carry in these ships). I do want to point out that this is in no means definitive, nor absolute proof of what is OP and what is not. And I would also like to point out that this is a measurement and is by no means a way to express my personal opinion on which ships should in fact be changed. I amde comments, but mostly based on the stats alone.

Sorry for offtopic, but I checked your stats and found this: But on topic, Podvoisky as a counter to Kamikaze is a terrible idea. Podvoisky is kinda a really poor ship imo.

You may want to think twice about getting Azuma in case the Azuma stays the way it is atm

Actually, WoT is now known for steadily releasing a new premium that is more OP then the last one that is now a bit more obsolete. WG (in WoT that is) even suddenly buffed the IS-3A with an autoloader with the sole purpose to sell it in lootboxes with no guarantee that you would get this IS-3A even after having opened hundreds of these lootboxes. The IS-3A was an old premium tank that had been removed from sale for a long while and was ok, before it got this sudden buff. I got a friend who's played a LOT of WoT and he happened to have this IS-3A and played it one day and found it surprising it had received this (in his words) very strong buff (it was changed into an autoloader), even though in his opinion this premium was not undergunned or weak or anything. It was buffed with the sole (and lazy) purpose of boosting lootbox sales, and in a very lazy way as well I might add. Even Quickybaby was against this move and I can't really think of a more consistent WG a**e*icker than him and to me that said a lot WoWS does have plenty mediocre premiums, like Mutsu or some of the other IJN premium BBs. Some have gotten some buffs even. Same as Prinz Eugen (Hipper also got buffed but got a different buff) or ships like Atlanta which are difficult to perform well in unless you have a 19pt (which is basically nigh on impossible for anyone decently new to the game). Scharnhorst/Gneisenau, I played both and really disliked Gneisenau, Scharnhorst is easier to play purely due to its faster traverse and faster reload. Gneisenau is a liiitlebit faster and has more pen (if you hit anything lol) and a bit better AA and maybe better secondaries. But overall I like Scharnhorst more. In ops the difference between these 2 is minimal I would say. Other mediocre premiums may include ships like Indianapolis, the almightly PEF, Graf Spee and maybe Marblehead. Overall, the OP-ness factor of WoWS premiums seems to go across the entire board, but I do think (subjectively, mind you) that premium ships tend to be a bit on the strong side

Oh good. I may give my own Shokaku a spin soon to experience these changes for myself. I had kinda given up on her as it has basically been the only ship I ever played in WoWS that has me witness all my planes melting virtually instantly and made me literally throw my hand into the air "ok whatever, this is pointless, I don't know how to make this work ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

It's kinda a shame you didn't get Musashi (or perhaps Kronstadt). It was cheaper at 750k fxp and it would've been a better choice conpared to Alaska. I don't think Alaska is a bad ship by itself, but BBs are more consistent (but harder to carry games in) and Musashi would've net you a bit more credits compared to nelson. Nelson is ok I guess. It has some great advantages along with some major weaknesses. It will come down to what you like. Footnote is that Nelson can be played in ops, which adds a lil bit of extra taste to the Nelson. Personally I tend to prefer DoY since it's more of a traditional battleship, even though DoY is not really superstrong at her tier or something.

I do think that WG have done a good job at making these premiums for tier 9, as this has in effect made tier 9 more interesting (and because otherwise ther'd be even more tier 10s played and perhaps even worse matchmaking).

Maybe you are not understanding this, but you're calling it shouting and you're calling it done by BBabies. It was hefty feedback for sure but there were soooo many people disagreeing with this change and yet you keep on piling all of them on a single stack and lighting them up. Ah, so you alone brought it up and had to stand tall and firm against all the ones who were a massive unstoppable wall of screaming bbabies? Must've been exciting for you This change was universally disapproved and not just because everyone who disagreed with you were bbabies. I don't see how all BB players would sanely approve of that change, it was a horrible design which needed to get torped and sunk.

Oh yes, I had forgotten about that 3 second delay! And you may be right about the delay in WoT making more sense there. I hardly ever used that skill in WoT (mostly due to it becoming too costly in regards to money needed). I don't understand why WoT isn't implementing this as a standard skill. I did hear some CCs (like Quickybaby) suggesting this so it might get added after all...in 2025 or something?

You mean that change that made every pen take damage, like a change that made having torpedo bulges make you take more damage instead of less? This has nothing to do with Bbabies, it was an awful implementation and a good thing it never made it to live. Only thing that was kept iirc was saturation damage from torps?

Iirc, weren't module hp increased in light of the changes to CVs? If this is the case, this will probably be a side-effect of this change. I was actually against the BB AP changes (but I thought that the double full pens were debatable, but I wasn't even against this in particular since it's plausible that all classes have these multipens and not just DDs). I believe that DDs are about never getting spotted (that's what the smoke and superior conceilemnt are intended for) and imo changes like no citadel and no pen damage are taking DDs into the wrong direction in this regard, but meh, fine, it will only make my own DD gameplay even better. It's as it is now and I don't really care enough about this particular issue anyway.

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I think hardly anyone would want to see this skill revert back to one which needs to be purchased, like it is in WoT now. I'd actually advice WoT to implement it the way that WoWS has it implemented instead of the other way around

It's not that easy anymore right now now that dynamo is gone, oh well. Problem was more getting the right signals. As long as you have signals to spam, the game mode one plays in is kinda irrelevant provided one is at least a reasonable player, right?

This is exactly what will be happening a lot more I think. But frankly, I think OP is just trolling.

Of course attacking the messenger is easier then to attack the message. Anyway, I play DD mostly these days. Most battles were played in Texas and Missouri because I needed credits and I didn't have any other premium ships (and in ops I play mostly CC and DD, but those stats are not counted statistically).