NothingButTheRain

This is what I usually do during the countdown, including quickly plotting in a course + speedadjust. I doubt DD players will be doing this a lot because of this nerf btw.

This should have been part of the rework from the very start imo.

I'm not sure either. What makes you think this? Actually, why did you even quote me in the first place?

Wichita has the (as of this moment, merely potential) benefit of being allowed into operation Cherry Blossom, which could be a great way for you to farm credits. Of course this does not help you right now. Wichita should print more credits than Baltimore should be able to. I have the Alaska, but frankly, to me it doesn't seem as good at printing credits compared to JB. Credit income is based on damage and battleships seem to be a bit better at this. The only problem for you could be that Jean Bart is French And don't worry too much about it being a too high tier for you. I did get the Missery back when I was still at tier 7 at the most and boy did I mess up my stats from those battles I played farming credits! ohh well Anyway, I could recommend you to play Alaska in coop only for a while, at least till you consider yourself sufficiently skilled enough to take on the high tiers. If you play this ship in coop, simply use only the free consumables and she will still make you money. Alaska in itself is a pretty good ship, afaict. I like her and it's actually my preferred tier 9 premium right now.

This I'd really like to see! Adding more diversity to the game will be a good thing for the game in the long run. Adding more premiums that get removed again after a while will not really benefit the game in the long run in the same way. I'm also thinking about some of the alt lines that were posted here and there (like a partial second tree of German battlecruisers). I even kept a record of all of these topics that I could find.

None so far.

Well, I kinda agree with you on both parts actually. I was interested to hear what yours was. There isn't a single line where I don't have the tier 6 yet (and only 1 actually) and all the rest is at tier 7 (only 2 iirc) or tier 8. I'm nearly done grinding most lines and they do pump out a large amount of premiums now. I'd say these will be premium ones, as the rest of the tech trees are missing. Usually they'd unveil at least part of a new line?

It appears to also put you on inactive quickly when you make a clip. Not sure if this is related though.

Why?

If someone is pointing out something like a widened citadel several times, why go in witha front assault while you could've just asked? But nooooo, you had to go bow in because you firmly believed there was no way I could've been right. I actually bolded the parts, I think that should be enough silver platter for you to be able to figure out the rest. And if you can't, well that won't be my problem anymore if this is the case. Lets go with another example: If you're being crossfired because your team messed up, there's no way you will be able to avoid all incoming fire. And dying a salvo sooner due to you getting citadelled even though you played to your max, will also result in stats for the ship being lowered, average credit income being decreased. Calling this nonsens is nonsense. It may not be of great significance, but when it comes to balancing it may be noticable. And about your little 'newsflash', where did you get that information from? It's supposed to have good shorter ranged AA for self defence. And about this part: You actually wrote something in the first part which you by your own doing, disprove by what you write in the second part. If you get a fair trade more damage for misplay then you will undeniably not get a buff that will always give you its improved benefits no matter the circumstances. That's just a dumb thing to say, if only because it simply isn't true. Then why say it? To sway the minds of the more feeble minded ones? Or because you simply hate the ship or the changes? Anyway, if you simply don't like the ship due to how it plays, then don't play the ship. If you find too many ships in the other team that you simply dislike a lot due to it not being your taste, then perhaps this game is just not for you. But others like it. Anyway, I'm kinda done now with this (obviously ignoring Ghost now) discussing of taste but disguised as factuals.

I was talking about balanced ships

which is actually the most efficient way to actually wina battle. Usually it's not even about winning, it's about making the other team lose based on their mistakes, so you kinda facilitate in them digging their own graves. Hard to explain. But this in itself already kinda indicates Stalingrad will be very strong in situations where something like this above matters a lot, which CB obviously is.

What does this have to do with anything I said that you quoted of me?

Like I said, nerfing one aspect then you have to buff another aspect in order for it to remain balanced. And come on, me not agreeing with you is totally not the same as because I do admit to making mistakes. Your statement can be proven wrong by doing a simple search for posts I have written containing the word "potato", as I'll usually say something along the lines of "Doh, I potatoed! ". So yes, I actually do admit to my mistakes and I do it quite regularly. This statement sais a lot about you. And Deckeru_maiku but I hardly ever see him write anything sensible anyway.

I think this is actually going into the right direction. In the end it's usually better to prefer to reward good behavior instead of the other way around. The only problem I could see with this, is that it could (and probably will) also get abused. Or should I say "betatested"?

Next time, don't use such harsh language against me while you're the one potatoing.

I already explained why having ship in the game that may or may not be harder, or easier to play, is probably actually good for the game. Also explained why diversity is good for the game (if only so it takes longer to get bored of it lol). And I also had mentioned, if you don't like the ship, then don't play the ship. If you say so

And it looks like (and I only saw this just now) the top of the citadel deck armor in the old Conqueror is actually 63mm front, 19mm center and 63mm back. Right now the test version of Conqueror has top citadel armor thickness of just 12mm all over. So it's actually already gotten nerfed in the base test version of the ship and they are (what looks like) merely partiallu un-nerfing the citadel armor. If this is just the deck armor, that one is 32mm in the old and new version at this time. Dunno if this was what was meant, but I'd assume not. So you might also be wrong.

Thank you. So we are clear on this part now, correct? And I already provided the screenshots so everybody else who is still in doubt can also see (or if they still don't believe me they can install aslains themselves and see). So it either is a nerf to the widened part of the citadel, or nothing changes, depending on how AP bombs will pen? Is this correct?

There we go. I installed Aslains for you so I could see the extended tech tree. Conqueror citadel before: Conqueror citadel after:

I saw how Henri tended to dominate latest KotS. But you're forgetting that KotS also had a slackier BB limit. In CB, without CV and with max 1 (official) BB, Stalingrads OPness is showing more. And no, facing 4 stalingrads brought no joy to me or any of my clanmembers. It's been hard enough to actually field a full team again thanks to stalingrad. People are sick of it and the only way a game with a stalingrad can be 'fun' in CB is if the owner remains AFK

Are you saying that every ship in the game is unbalanced because individual fights between different ships are unfair? because you are assuming this as it's unfair (in YOUR book) to fight a ship 1 on 1 if the other ship is a Conqueror. I don't feel like having to explain (again ) what 'balance' is.

I'm downloading Aslains and gonna check for myself. I can't remember when it was but he had throat issues at the time. Have fun hunting it down

Of course I can't replicate exact sates of plays. I could see when someone actually started playing a ship. It's not ideal, but don't forget: With stats, no stats will ever be perfect. I agree that some choices are poor choices because they changed a lot. Izumo could be an example of this, but any of the oldest ships could do. I think the best WG can do now (if only because it's even more broken in clan battles) is to forcefully swap out everyone's stalingrads for 28k steel and completely remove it from the game. It's a shame. Clan battles are so much more fun when the enemy isn't spamming them. We even had an enemy team with 4 Harugumos and their entire team charged only 1 of the caps. Was hilarious! But it would not have been as fun if they had brought 4 stalingrads (and we've faced teams with up to 3 stalingrads more than once before, no fun at all). Bourgogne definitely looks like a fun ship to play. Too abd for me I'm hardly gaining any steel as it is. Can't be bothered playing enough clan battles for this, but I did (finally!!!!) have fun in clan battles again(!!!!!) yesterday. because there were no stalingrads! (except once).

Quoting this for now. Flamu showed the changed citadel on his stream. Guess we'll have to figure out what shape the citadel has right now.