NothingButTheRain

Team Honor is winning by a large margin now. Wish I had known that sooner but oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Or an OP with multiple human controlled carriers. Would be benefitial for the game in more than one way and it can be very satisfying playing with a teammate ina div and both being able to play a carrier, it's awesome actually A channel dash for escorting Gneis/Scharn, I vote in favor of it! Would even play my Scharnhorst for it! (my Gneis sadly doesn't have a cap atm). Or a Kantai Kessen operation! Me wantz! Or having to sink an allied escorted convoy with surface ships. Ouch, but tasty! There's so much that you be considered. Heck, even the pacific could be a host of several ideas for future operations

I don't mind getting the camos But signal flags, I have so many of most of them now.

That's because you're a filthy stats hider!!!!11111

Yw :) Btw, I'm running some tests right now (while doing house chores in the mean time) and after having used 'C' to focus on the front turrets while shooting at a near target sideways (I didn't include the aft turret, merely shot it empty inbetween tests), it appears to me that the dispersion is the same as when shooting the front turrets towards a target at the same range towards the front. It does seem different when not changing camera focus using 'C', but when viewing the dispersion from the front turrets, it seems that the dispersion from Yamato front turrets is the same regardless of the direction of fire. My tests were not very extensive, spend only 25 minutes trying out different stuff I could think of. Dispersion at close range seems pretty bad btw, as if it's significantly worse compared to shooting at much more distant targets.

It's not as farfetched as you might think. And it could explain (IF this is the case) why it hasn't been consistently reproducable yet. I mean, go take your Yamato into a trainingroom and try to reproduce your weird dispersion pattern yourself, with bots that don't move and don't shoot back. If you get the normal dispersion and not the weird dispersion in 100% of your attempts, then the weird dispersion must come from some other cause. I haven't been able to reproduce your dispersion pattern yet in a consistent way, which indicates that your hypothesis cannot be the whole story behind this dispersion 'problem'. I agree with you that there may be some weird dispersion problem at hand. The last halloween had something that appears similar. There was a skill involved which bugged and caused a huuuge dispersion penalty caused by locking onto one of the bosses. But this extreme dispersion would disappear when shooting at the same bosses under the same circumstances when the lockon was manually disabled (pressing 'X' and aiming manually). This was a clear case of the dispersion being affected negatively by the lockon and it was consistent. This dispersion bug has not been consistent yet. As long as it's not reproducable yet in a consistent way, it means that the cause has not been fully disclosed and alternatives will need to be figured out. It's not the first time buggy code caused a problem with game mechanics or other problems with the client. Another example was this memory leak bug which was very hard to track down for WG, but I'm sure there were other bugs.

I had this one in Conqueror as well, with the loooong cooldown superheal Needless to say that I failed that one as well

WG can actually, by shutting them down with chat bans (which they seem to already kinda do). Then these kids can rage at their mother's house all they want and all day, but we won't notice anymore, that would be one problem solved

Is Ognevoi really that good? I actually have her (along with Kiev), but kinda preferred Kiev as I already have a permacamo for the latter (the anniversary one). Not grinding either atm tho. At this moment I'm considering doing the same of getting the tier 7 premium, as I liked Budy and Shscsggsfsvszshsors a lot when I was grinding them (along with using a trollish spotterplane build on them) and a tier 7 premium may be of good use for operations. But I may end up getting a couple permacamos instead. Or buy crates to get access to at least the tier 5 BB.

I noticed the same with this patch. But before this patch, closing down the client took so long that like a week or 2 ago, I made a batch file to force shutdown the client right away (basically what ALT+F4 would normally do), but the client now shuts down almost instantly when I proceed to exit the client by regular means. But indeed, the ingame music did continu for a little bit afterwards. But I don't know how this could be connected to the lag due to the opening of the contact list, except that the ingame music also keep on playing while the ui is completely frozen (and I mean 100% not responding to any input).

I already mentioned to the supreme admirals of this forum that I noticed the faster respons on PTS, but also on a spare account. But when logging out and right away logging in into my primary account (the NBTR one), the lag was suddenly worse (a LOT worse!) and I also mentioned several times that it must have to do with the contact list. On my main account this contact list (and the blacklist) are very long, but on my PTS and spare account the contact list is very very short and POOF port ui is suddenly very responsive for me This patch certainly helped, but this contact list sluggishness is now even more noticable as this seems to be just as bad as it was before. I just clicked the contact list button in the lower left and can hear the inport music while I type this sentence, which means the lag spike is happening as I type this. It is about a full minute or so and I notice the end of the lagspike as the port music will stop being audible while I'm actually on the forums. Usually the game is muted when not being the active window. I agree with you that it probably has to do with server load. I suspect that the sluggishness when trying to open the contact list derives from the server wanting to show me the online status of everyone on it. But even if this is not the case, it's definitely a problem in the corner where the contact list resides.

I thought you were the one in the Yamato? If so, then you don't understand. Perhaps this disperson bug happens when the enemy that is shooting you, is having the lock on bug when trying to shoot you and this causes YOUR dispersion to get wonky. The moment the Repu shot you, you didn't have a single ship locked onto you. I'm saying this because in training room I was not able to reproduce this (and yes I tried like half an hour ago).

In training room as it is now, you can even do stuff like this

I received 6x4 tokens and was in the top 5% (probably). How much should I have received from being in the winning team?

The second failed dispersion shot, you have any idea why the Repu was shooting at you while you had no enemies locked onto you? Because if this is a real bug and it's hard to pin down, it will have a higher probability of being a bug which affect only happens in certain circumstances that will be difficult to test if not aware of this (like your dispersion being worse if an enemy that is targetting you has the lockon bug, which I'd reckon won't happen in training room with bots). It's the only thing I can think of right now and which is harder to test in training room when not aware of this, but might be worth a test. I can't seem to get the disperion to get as wonky as in the game I made my screenshotcollection picture. Not in the trainingroom at least with bots that just hold position and don't fire back.

There have been complaints about the weird disperion regularly from time to time, but it has always been brushed aside as "just typical BB dispersion" and "RNG", but I've always felt something odd was going on here, but I just could not lay my finger on it as it seemed to irratic to actually test it out and get more reliable (and reproducable!!!) data. EDIT I did find the screenshots I made back then. Here it is. The extrapolated dispersion was so I could compare it to the ones given in for instance the port interface (which mentions dispersion at max range). Now that I'm curious, I'll go into training room and see if using only front turrets or all will result in different dispersion and report back after I finished testing. Lets just see what happens

I was going to mention Iowa. I have the same issues with Iowa at close range. I even manage to fail citadelling a bot Iowa sailing broadside to me at a whopping 4 (yes four!!!!) km. There's something up, but it hadn't occured to me that it was when using only the front guns. I did make a topic about this dispersion a couple months ago I think? I even had went to training room and showed screenshots of weird dispersion (even some that was close or beyond the theoretical maximum dispersion) but dunno where that topic is right now. I could go into training room with another bunch of tests as now I have a little bit more to go on.

Looking like this right now btw I think we need a topic like this one

2000 is already a stretch for me, I'll probably go with Glory today as well as I could use a day off lol

Salt free stream? Sounds sweet! I'll come visit your twitch when I see you're on

Iirc people were also doing this back with gonavy event. I did it as well and I'm doing it now

Or having to set 4 fires when sailing Conqueror and actually managing to fail that one, yes I can!

The carriers do kinda work in training room. Me and another I had met in Narai recently went to the training room, each with a Ryujo and went against 3 tier 4 carriers and lots of targets on both sides and we actually had a blast! And it's a good thing Narai is still there. I dare say it's the most requested one in the ops channel these days. Well, it's basically the only requested one.

Our DD couldn't be bothered

I already received the rewards around like 3am or 4am or so. Was in a div at the time and everybody received these tokens at the same time.