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Couple of things. 1. You killed tX dd with large health pool and heal, it really would be bad ting if T8 CV could kill TX dd with 3-4 bombs 2. Rockets are useless for fast moving/dodging targets....why is this? Because they were OP before nerf and you did guaranteed 2-3-4 k salvo on dd without any means of him defending by dodging.. 3. Bomb are your best weapons, i got 12k hit from shingle midway drop on TX RN dd, and on tx CV you got more of them and dd really has hard time of dodging that. 4. if you got onnly 1 bomb in 20 minutes on him there is also partly your fault, bad aiming you helped your team to win by killing DD or make him ussles by chasing you so GG

yes, in 8.0.3 they are removing CVs....did not you hear the news? :)

Yeah, we know that...problem with CV is that it force peoples to use brain, and it is hard, it is not fun, it is why "cryers" have 43% WR.

any below 50% WR guy will tell you it is all about luck, and funny enough 60% guys it seams have enormous streak of good luck, like 4-5-6 k games in row with epic luck

Win game - contribute to win with one ore more of major things - spotting, capping, DMG....

It is just theorycrafting discussion. Nobody will sue anybody. Not over 30-50 €. And btw I just can not believe that WG lawyers are much better than MKTG department or balancing department :) and we all know both sucks :)

3 things: - this is personal thing so court will take this case ONLY if one side complains - they want arbitration not court in first place (that says alot) 25. Dispute Resolution and Arbitration 25.1 Generally. In the interest of resolving disputes between you and Wargaming in the most expedient and cost effective manner, you and Wargaming agree that any and all disputes arising in connection with this EULA shall be resolved by binding arbitration. Arbitration is more informal than a lawsuit in court. Arbitration uses a neutral arbitrator instead of a judge or jury, may allow for more limited discovery than in court, and can be subject to very limited review by courts. Arbitrators can award the same damages and relief that a court can award. Our agreement to arbitrate disputes includes, but is not limited to all claims arising out of or relating to any aspect of this EULA, whether based in contract, tort, statute, fraud, misrepresentation or any other legal theory, and regardless of whether the claims arise during or after the termination of this EULA. YOU UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT, BY ENTERING INTO THIS EULA, YOU AND WARGAMING ARE EACH WAIVING THE RIGHT TO A TRIAL BY JURY OR TO PARTICIPATE IN A CLASS ACTION. - and thirt thing national law (NOT EU LAW) has juridistiction 12.1 This EULA and any dispute, claim or obligation (whether contractual or non-contractual) arising out of or in connection with it or its subject matter or formation shall be governed by the laws of Cyprus, unless otherwise required by the law of the country where the user has his habitual residence. 12.2 We and you submit all the aforementioned disputes to the jurisdiction of the courts of the country whose laws are applicable subject to article 1 of the present section

real argument here is not the return policy but: - defying the ownership (we agree that i payed for thing, but if i am not owner, i must "rented" it from owner) - after we agreed it is rent/lease, what is period of rent? how long is contract? Can it be changed next day? what is rental fee, is there amortisation..and so return policy is secondary thing...main thing is OWNERSHIP and how we define my 50(your currency) given to them nad HOW MY NATIONAL LAW looks @ deals like this. For instance in my country there is clear definition of a rent or lease and parts that are ESSENTIAL are: - time of a rent - fee - return policy - handling of ownership after end of rental period (does it become mine after rent (leasing) or i must return it). Many cars are bought thrue leasing where after lease period ownership is transfered to me and i am owner of a car so you see there are many things not define in ELUA. and it is very clear that they know nobody will go thru high costs and long period of court time for battle of virtual ship BUT saying their ELUA is bulletproof is just wrong.

mate problem here is that NATIONAL LAW applies here....and guess how many different laws we are here taling about worldvide...so no, they did not and can not cover all basis.....and their claim of ownership over virtual thing and "lease" is very shaky. do you want me to copy/paste here my national law definition of lease? and dont forget theoretically if i would sue them my contry law would apply... also mate, you are playing bedroom lawyer too so dont be mad at us when we theoryicraft this thing (nobody will sue them for sure).

i am not trying to defend WG but money back return in most cases would be very complicated thing (technically) because there are many different ways to get the ship: - discount - others bought for you (gift) - others give it to you (gifts from youtubers and so on) - prize ships (not paid) - ships gotten in supercontainer (no money payed) - ships gotten in purchased containers also technical part of money back: - my country can not get money on paypay but i can pay with it and i did..how do i get money back? - other means of payment that you can not accept money on it so there are some issues with reall money return

exactly....

problem for them is in this part - every disput is settled BY NATIONAL LAW also if i start to list all big multinational companies that were punished by laws because of fraud or false advertising or other legal problems my post would be miles long

to be hosest if you wanna legal battle yo uhave reall good arguments. they hide behind "lease" and not sell of virtual goods, but they miss all the key components of a lease: duration? rental? amortization? they only define ownership as theirs......

umm yes. Arty=long range artillery that does massive dmg per hit, armor helps against it, and you can bonce or hide behind obsticle, to shoot enemie it needs spot from somebody else BBs = long range artilery that does massive dmg per hit, armosr helps against it, you can bounce or hide behind obstacle, to shoot eneie it needs spot from somebody else CV= close range weapon that does small amount of dmg per hit, armor helps against it, you can kill planes, you can manuvre and make it miss, hiding behind obsticle does not help, it does not need spot so pls tell me arty in WOWS is what? it is clear that it is BBs in every aspect. use your brain pls

worst t9 ship of all classes, tX KM BBs in my opinion is the worst tX bb

Ayrt = BBs....pls get your facts straight

i hear WOT is great and is calling your name. Yes meta has changed to harder which is a good thing for this game....we had 2 years of dumbing down gameplay.....

yes....cry on now

You no touch my Belfast :)

yes it is possible to have 3 tX BBs and accumulated flags and camos to rush thrue DD line and be total noob (in DDs).....but in my personal opinion there are not that much players of this kind. for me, who have almost all tX ships every new line is "pain" because i just dont want to do boring grind thru similar playstyle ships under different flag. For instance FR CA did not bring anytthing new to gamee so grinding from start is pain and i would not like it to be more painful with reduced EXP :). but on other side i would/will pass all tiers of new RN CV lines just to see how level carpet bombing is done properly.

yes, for coal or other currency that new player also do not have enough. In prem shop (i think) there are no such camos or flags in sale, just "regular" ones.

you can not pass t8 in 16 games and have no clue what are you dooing.....you need 10k exp games for that, and with all flags and camos you still need over 2 k base EXP EVERY game.....as you said, it is uniqum level of play... Also new player (first or second line 8 - 10 grind, does not have that many flags or cammos to rush thru tiers).

T4 CV has serious problem with low DMG and it potential to carry games is low t6 is in better spot, higher DPS but still i would say im middle of pack t8 is in good spot DMG vise, but has problem with constant t10 MM where you can do alot by spotting and picking lonely riders, but still with high price. For instance Saipan is in world of pain here. t10 is a beast, but as any CV needs time...for instance 2 games yesterday, 1 was full duration and i manage to carry team and we won. 220 k dmg, 4 kils, killed last ship that turned score points to ur side before 20:00 mark ticked. Game after i spoted 2 DDS and attacked them, while they died almost whole enemie team was dead..i was with 2 kills and 60k dmg....did help team to win (spoting) but flooped dooing dmg because it was all over 8 minutes after start. REGARDING CW we did try it yesterday , and first matcch we got team WITHOUT CV.....well they played as ussual...1 wing push, other woing kite....it did not went well for them.....i spoted DD, shima....first frop 6500 dmg - smoke - radar - dead. zao was left alone....2 drops 12 k dmg, nex rockets with 7 k, while turning he got deleted by Montana. Basicly it was game over in 4 minutes. CV have great potential, they are not in bad shape. but as ALLWAYS you can not brute force yourself thrue wall of AAA...you will deplete your planes too fast and replenishment is slow. Pick target. Know what is yur man weapon in ship (USN CV are HE bombs) and spec according. dont judge CVs on t4 and 6....in t8 only experienced players will do good in bad MM scenario

this is just poor poor WG handling of the stuff......they can not say they did not know that for instance Belfast would not be OP when they released it.....99% of testers said s, it was clear to anybody with a basic knowladge of the game that stealthy RN cruiser with radar + HE + hydro would be "extreamly strong ship" and still they sold it (for reall money)......and know after 1 year + thy suddenly discover that this ships are OP and need rebalance...but no they will not give your money back but some ingame resources. and they sit behind ELUA which says in short - you are not buying ship you are renting it. BUT there are so many problems with this: - they took your money for a ship they knew is OP - they do not want to give your money back but some more or less intersting ingame resource. - leasing without endate (fishy) - just to evade word "sale" - and this leasing contract they can break second day after purchasing by changing your ship totally. - it has alot of "scam" components in this whole bussiens. if they really and finally would admit THEIR mistake in producing their OP product they would: - give your money back - give your money back reduced by time you used a ship (now back to infinite lease and not knowing how much do you pay per day/month/year for your "rent" - for instant peoples who have ship 2 years would got 80% of money payed back and peoples who have it for 1 year would get 90% back and so one. this is just fucked up...why would we ever believe in WG aigain that they will not change thing you payed (expensively) after 1 month?

USA CV in my opinion looks like this: - MAIN WEAPON - HE BOMBS....precize, masiv dmg, butfucks DDS like charm. - all things that benefits bombers are main thing to get in talents and modules. - SECONDARY WEAPON - in my opinion it is personal choice but i like TINY over hvar and torpedos...why?.....steady firestarters that works very good with HE bombs. I just dont like torps that much.....average dmg of one torp is 3-4 k, and hitting more than 3-4 torps to ship is not easy, while 2-3 runs with TINY that does almost the same dmg + fire is much easier. so BOMBS all the way my build https://worldofwarships.com/en/content/captains-skills/?skills=8,10,11,15,16,24,25,29&ship=AirCarrier