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you say, he needs radar....yes yes...pls pls....giev giev :)

t4....who cares

everything you said can do T6 silver one, just better

Problem is that Furious can and will hurt BBs even on t8 with 32 mm pen and do dmg, and bombers are dooing solid dmg....Ark can not with 19 mm pen....limiting targets = smaller dmg = smaller influence in game. Regen is great, but in the end (due to higher HP it is 1774 vs 2279, and faster plane 125 vs 98) striking power of bouth CV is simmilar with TB but limiting bombers to low tier BBs and some cruisers is disadvantage, i just exited game and here is bombers help in dmg

and that compensate for lower HP of planes and lower pen of bombers how?

It is not fine...it is on weak side, much weaker than silver contrapart, it is fair to say it is weakest t6 Cv....can you make good results...yes you can, captain always win over ship

FR line is...i do not know.....bad :) now lets me try to explain it why i think this dds are in bad spot 1. - they take DD spot and can not do DDs job of capping or spotting putting their team to big disadvantage especialy if there are only 1-2 dds in game. 2. - their DPS is not good, infact IJN gunboats have smoke, better DPS, much better concealment or RU gunboats have heal/smoke 3. - fire is their big part of dmg that is healed alot 4 - light cruiser in fact are dooing their job with much better results (DPS) + tools (radar, hydro, smoke) 5 - CV game = gameover 6 - their game play is focused around burning BBs, printing fire dmg = dooing nothig for team except boosting their own dmg/PR....but [edited]WR thiey are not bad as it is, but their mechanic of gameplay actively helps other team to win games. They do not bring to table a single thing: - if we look them as DDs they can not spot or cap or even deny space with torpedo soup - if we look them as dmg dealer - they are weakes DMG dealers in tier. they can and are fun, but there stops their "strenght"

you detected problem MM....and powerjump from t8 to t10 is HUGHE. With current playerbase (where most teams are dominated with extremly bad players) if yo are in t8 ship in t10 game you have very little cahce to carry your team

this one :) t8 is one big NO_NO_NO zone right now :)

you have torp protection, 50% on Izumo? Also as allwayss best defend in low AAA ship against CV is teamplay. Dont stand out solo on age of map . cv like that, hee giggles when sees you on A1 while fiight is on other wing. and free exp that Izumocrap :) also BBs crying about masterrace is very good joke sir, very good one

Izumo has crap AAA, specing it for AAA is gimping yourself epicly...on good note GZ bombers are ussles, his torps do 2 k dmg and rockets 1-2 k...you will survive 30 attacks from him, better to ignore it than to try to fight it.

No.....you will be frustrated. Firstly you do not meet that many t8 cvs....t10 will drop you anyhow and t6 you will down with almost any build Secondly anyting nonbraindead after first strike and high loses will avoid you. to many points for too few fun and reward, and cruiers like AAA speced BBs that do not have tank build...it is one big barbecue and bonfire. best CV punisher is Friesland......2,5 km air detection range, brutal AAA, deff AAA, and you do not sacrifice 10 useless points for you to be AAA strongpoint

yeh..do not like low tiers much but i think i will reset IJN CVs and/OR IJN cruisers so i will see it :)

For me OP ship is ship that enables you to play better (have better resoult) than in other ships. If i am 50% average player (in 50 ships), and in only one ship i have 60% it is clear that it is the ship and not me (captain). Regarding CV, i do not agree, todays cv, to play strong role, you need skill, and you need to select target, conserve planes, use dropsoots etc etc And still ships can protect from you. I do not see many average players that statpad in CVs.

there is no I WIN ship and never it will be...old CV also was not I WIN ship because if you were not very good you were most ussles ship in game... Problem is that Smolensk combines best of all 3 ships you pointed out witout its donwsizes. Potato in Smolensk would do much better than tomato in CV, or in BBs or in DDs. Especially dds. Claming Smolensk is not most OP (or one of 2 most op ships, bouth russians :) ) ship in game would be redicolous . i am not jelous of it, i have it, but i think i am objective claiming it is just so easy to play with great reward. to do good in CV you need to work hard, to do good in Smolensk you just use his tools and ships basically plays itself. in my opinon, for randoms, Smolensk is much stronger than Stalingrad due his ability to instaglib DDs with his enormous DPS, and you can not mitigate it DPS with "skill" aka angling..where angled ship can defend against Stalin.

but mate, i never ever pointed this discusion towards WR...i did not say this ship is my best WR ship, or this is ship that will have best WR. if you want WR, much more importan is to play in 3 man division in good ship setup. i only stated that this ship is monster in every possible way and dishing out 100 k is easy, almost no skill required. Yes old CV was more infuential....BUT IT WAS MUCH MUCH HARDER TO PLAY, it needed alot of skill.....where Smolensk do not require 50% of that skill.. . It will melt any class and oponent basicly has no or very little conter to you. There is just no defend from top DPSer that is hiding in smoke. Also as it is middle range ship (not kitter or 20 km HE spammer) it is perfect to hang around cap, take cover of icelands and melt things around which translate to more dmg to cruisers and dds....you know, in division Smolensk is in perma smoke, with 100% spot. you only need to press fire and pile numbers. yesterday Kleber decide to do gunfignt with me on 10 km range..do you know how it ended and how wast it ended?

i think you are smarter than to talk about WR on 6 game sample where one 1 swings form potato 50% to uniqum 60%. and yes, my contribution to all games was standard...with 2 more friends we win, playing solo you more depend on others. It is very known concept in this game. i was talking of OPnes of this ship, and yes it is very very OP ship, much more than Stalin....why? because it can hunt all 3 classes with ease, or much easier than any other ships in TX range

if you tr to read all posted again, i am sure you will get it this time. also you know 1 more victory would put me from 50% to 60% :) i never posted about WR, but how easy this ship is to play, to be blunt, how OP it is

it is not passive agressive it is fact, fact that you must be in top 5% players to carry 14 monkeys over finish line. and i get you...playing solo this game is road to insanity. still i get why you choose not to play a single solo game in 2 year. on other heand i am not stats fanatic and sit online and not play waiting for friends to come online. personal performance does not depend on team....victory is very team dependent....i performe the same solo and team (dmg shows that), but offcource 120k dmg can not kill whole enemie team, to win you need help from friends...as you know that not playing solo game for 2 years

sure....but it can not bypass moron teams we see in work every day. but my performance is the same team or soloplay, in team we win most games, solo there is too much xyz factor for me to baypass 38% wr guys in TX ships

you know you have 51% wr in your whole "solo" gampely in wows? in more than 500 games? p.s. i never ever claimed this ship can carry 14 morons to victory

pls point me where did i ever in this topic talked about WR? I was talking about dmg and been usefull for team. and this ship is the easiest ship to be that. can it solo carry game....nop Is it braindead idiotproof gameplay - yes it is

because there is only 1 k difference in dmg----no division has nothing to do with it

it is not big sample, but as it is me, i know how "hard" i need to work in this ship to be usefull....very little....most work does ship itself. it combines everything strong in Mino and Worc into one ship?! Smoke - checked Hydro/Deff AAA - checked Brutal DPS both Ap and HE - checked Stealthy and manuverable - checked hard to "oneshote" due to alot of overpenetration - checked CV no fly zone - checked solid balistic - checked not gimmic torpedos, but usefull ones - checked it only misses radar to complete happynes :)

My top 5 ships by dmg.....and the easiest and most benefitial to the team is Smolensk....it just can do anything.....this ship does not need smoke to be competitive