Khaba_Gandalf

Abruzzi leidet mmn darunter das man dafür nen zweiten Kapitän bei den Spaghettis braucht, was zugegeben seit der BB Linie nicht mehr so dramatisch ist wie es noch vorher( besonders vor dem Rework) der Fall gewesen ist, weil venezia skillung paßt nicht so ganz. Gorizia hab ich seit der Kampagne damals nicht mehr bewegt, T7 ist im random häufig mittlerweile Garantie für low Tier mit t9 Beteiligung und im Ranked haben andere T7 Kreuzer mehr carry potential. Ordentlich lief sie aber, nur eben nicht so geil das man sie über da event hinaus groß bewegen wollte. Also keine Qual damals, aber auch nicht das Spaßwunder - egal ob ranked, random oder narai - ... Aber vielleicht bin ich ja als Besitzer einer Belfast einfach verwöhnt.

Black female commander wearing a black coat assigned to Bismarck, I mean if Rammstein can do it in their Deutschland video... But i guess that would lead to a similar butthurt for some special wehraboos like the BF5 trailer...

The question now is : how many of your captains wear miniskirts and how many of those are also anime girls...

So she was basically right with her review? ...

Das review von LWM ist interessant und damit meine ich nicht das Schiff selbst, sondern das ganze drumherum und wie PR technisch "genial" WG sich da angestellt hat. Mmn 200% ein Schiff was kein Mensch braucht, selbst wohl die Kanadier nicht...

Quick question about that new MM replay feature: How large are those videos in the end and am I right with my assumption, that it only takes one member of a clan to have discord to create and then DL and distribute those videos? My clan pretty much only uses TS and doesn't want to migrate to Discord, but having the option for CB analysis to create a MM replay for our commanders to upload s.w else, view and then discuss in TS would be sweet.

Big boobs and if that's not enough fanservice add demonic horns for some good old D&D style succubus vibe... Think just from memory and without checking it in port (on my phone right now) : Wave 1: all commanders Wave 2: bought the AL, montpelier bundle on day one when she was falsely advertised and sold with the wrong radar range. Refunded her, spend the money on crates and ended up with no Eugen yet 3 or 4 Yukikaze copies. Was the nail in the coffin for me in regards to AL crates Wave 3: didn't bother at all beyond the freely available crate (twitch prime?), so the only girl from w3 I have is Littorio. Sure I would have liked getting shokaku, Roon and Baltimore for the ships with the same names in my port, but didn't want to gamble after my wave two experience and the whole bundle was awfully bloated with stuff like permaflages for premium ships so not a bargain either. If wave four sticks to the same principle, I grab what I can get for free and don't care about the rest. Which is a shame, I really liked the deals from wave one.

Ich bin Pessimist nach den letzten WoWs / AL Aktionen. Meine Prognose : - kein Einzelverkauf der Kapitäne - loot Kisten ohne Dubletten Schutz für die neue Welle der Kapitäne - ansonsten Pakete mit sinnlosen Beifang, wie AL style Tarnungen für Schiffe die bei WoWs als Premiumschiffe laufe und im schlimmsten Fall gar nicht mehr zu bekommen sind.. Also genauso wie letztes mal - dazu 2-3 Kopien von existierenden Schiffen mit Premiumstatus und entweder 1:1 kopierten Stats oder Alibi Änderungen wie - 0.1 sigma und paar Meter weniger Streuung im Tausch gegen HP und Nachladezeit

Hmn, not too hyped about both the designs and the choices. Would have prefered Siegfried over Aegir, also IB getting another carrier feels as strange as Sov CVs in WoWs... I have no ideas about prioritizing stuff, but I guess I will go for the Non-DR ships first due to a severe lack of DR BPs + backlog. Think I'm gonna wait for stats/skills, because design wise I'm not blown away by any of those 5. But I'm not the biggest fan of all those cow-like fan service cleavage designs. Regarding WoWs side of the collab: Not having high hopes here. If WG goes again for the either buy loot crates (with no duplicate protection) or bundling all new commanders with additional stuff, I'm out. I mean last time? All wave 3 commanders as a bundle also included 3 permaflages for premium ships. Incl. Belfast which isn't on sale anymore anway...

Not to mention that the system is far less punishing nowadays, compared for the good old days were we had normal and premium consumables and running a full set of those could raise the costs for a round by 70-100k easily depending on how many consumables your ship had...

Ich werd es da nach der Erfahrung mit der Dante eher getreu dem Motto "abwarten und Tee trinken" handhaben und mit dem Bewegen der Kiste warten, bis WG mehr Infos zum Niederländer Release raus haut, weil: 1. Es ist t4... sprich Doppel-CV Abo und sinnlos was jegliche Kampfaufträge angeht 2. Auch auf t 4 will ich nicht mit einem 6er rumgeistern, ohne ECXP bewegt sich da nix und da wären wir beim nächsten Punkt 3. Wir wissen das NL mindestens einen Kapitän im Vorabzugang bekommt. Warum also einen 0815er nach t10 hochschleifen 4. Sollte der Vorabzugang wie bei den Italienern ablaufen, muß man das Schiff eh noch mal im Bündel kaufen und kommt wahrscheinlich eh weiter als t4 Also lasse ich sie erst mal wo sie ist und farme derweil mit anderen Kapitänen ECXP bis wg uns mehr Infos gibt. Nicht sexy aber pragmatisch...

Not to mention how do you think the mode would look like with no gateway currency to advocate people playing other stuff once in a while. You either get super boring games with 90% of both teams playing the two big ships or if WG sticks to his super bb limit being stuck in waiting queue hell forever...

Ich würde sagen es gibt da sicher eine Korrelation zwischen dem Niveau und der Zielgruppe, die ein Modus mit in pixeligen Kruppstahl verwirklichten Speerschen Größenwahn-Fantasien so anziehen dürfte...

Hatte nie einen in bald vier wows und ich bezweifle jemals einen kriegen zu werden, weil: 1. Die Wahrscheinlichkeit unberechtigt - rein aus Frust über den Gefechtsverlauf - in Reihe häufig genug reportet zu werden das irgendein Automatismus greift ist zwar sicher nicht gleich Null aber extremst unwahrscheinlich. Wenigstens als NICHT-CV-Fahrer 2. WG nicht im ts mithört: sollte man da nicht ganz jugendfrei über den mm und seine Mitspieler schimpfen, kriegt man nur - zu Recht- von den Clankollegen eins vor den Bug, wenn das Salzlevel kritische Werte erreicht 3. Wenn Variante "im TS fluchen" nicht den Blutdruck senkt, muß man ja auch nicht gleich seine Mitspieler auf eine Art und Weise beschimpfen, für die Oma einem als Bub die Ohren lang gezogen hätte. Soviel gute Kinderstube sollte schon sein. Süffisant ironische Nachfragen, ob etwa auf Norden die überlebenden Teile des teams auf der 10er Linie (Feind hält a+b und führt nach Schiffen ) schon die Schatzinsel gefunden hätten und wenn ja, ob diese wirklich die Nacktbilder von Dasha enthalten, tuen es auch. Der Blutdruck sinkt, man wird eher selten dafür reportet und häufiger noch für solche Späße von den ebenfalls gefrusteten Teamkollegen gelobt, die zusammen mit einem bei A-B gestorben sind.

Jeweils nur eins, Div auf 1xStalin, 1xPetro, 1xVenzia, 1xGoliath geht.

Nicht zu vergessen, die Schweizer Schlachtschiff Flotte, die auf dem Bodensee die Neutralität der Schweiz in ww2 und zu Zeiten des kalten Krieges gesichert hat...

Stand jetzt wäre: Option a) man behält die Friesland, falls der Kapitän da noch sitzt oder man anderswo einen für ihn geskillten bei EU geparkt hat, steht der einem damit logischerweise weiterhin zur Verfügung Option b) Friesland tauschen, dann bleibt der Kapitän bei EU -egal ob wirklich eingewiesen oder woanders geparkt- und das Schiff wird entfernt, wofür man dann bei NL die Groningen ohne Kapitän erhält Option c) Friesland + Kapitän behalten, bei NL 1m FXP raushauen und dann sich da einen neuen stricken, der dann effektiverweise parallel noch den Baum Richtung Goldene Schmusekatze hochwandert. Ich werd wohl Variante C machen, für mich ist das Thema Kapitänstrainer eh hinfällig (u.a weil ich das T8 Werftevent Schiff mitnehmen werde) und Prems die ich erst einmal habe, gebe ich nicht wieder her...

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/161 Alles WIP unter Vorbehalt, aber der aktuelle Sachstand ist: 10.6 Friesland raus aus dem Techtree/Premshop was die Option angeht sie zu erwerben für FXP bzw. Echtgeld. Wer sie bis dann nicht hat, kann sie nicht mehr kriegen. Wer sie hat, hat sie... 10.7 Angebot der Groningen im NL-Baum als FXP und wahrscheinlich dann auch für Echtgeld im Premladen, von den Werten her identisch zur Friesland dazu: Option im Laufe von Patch 10.7 die Friesland (EU) gegen die Groningen (NL) zu tauschen, aber nur für den Patch. Danach ist die Option weg und man "muß" die Groning dann normal erwerben (hat dann aber weiterhin seine Friesland) Sprich wenn du sie schon hast und nicht tauschen willst, bleibt sie dir unter dem Namen Friesland im EU Baum (Stand jetzt) erhalten. Ausser WG macht noch mal ne 180° Kehrtwende, wovon ich aber nach der Ankündigung nicht ausgehe... Ich werd meine wohl behalten und mir die Groningen parallel noch dazu holen, was soll der Geiz (also für FXP).

Finally...

Just wait for the introduction of Swiss naval forces... The voice over will most likely be like this... Now imagine that with dasha and you can't make unseen what you have seen (or rather imagined). Stupid jokes aside, think dasha audio will never change due to economical reasons : See it that way : they only needed to create a unique voice over with her once, anything beyond that is just having a dude in the art department creating a new avatar and some code work to implement a new dasha variant into the game. Easy and low cost filler material for events. Unique voice lines for the different nations would either require them to do numerous takes with dasha herself not sounding super terrible (yet having a slight Russian accent) when it comes to some of the languages in the game, or finding and paying external female professionals from Russia to do voice overs that don't sound like you or me trying to speak Chinese. Which makes no economical sense for WG most likely. How much does such a work cost and how many dasha copies do they need to sell...

Totally correct, because German subs dont use ping to home in their torpedoes. They use a superior technology called pong tracking :

Yes and no, problem here is that WG doesn't stick to a consistent and clear nomenclature. And thats both true for the wiki and the dev blog, wanna have some examples? All those commanders are listed on the wiki on a separate page called "unique commanders". The description that precedes that list states that all unique commanders are recognisable by a star in front of their name in port and that legendary ones with special talents have a gold star, while the other ones only have a white star. If you then check the list, Yamamoto, Halsey and Kuznetsov are labeled as "legendary", Swirski, Sansonetti and Lütjens as historical and Auboyneau as Heroic underneath their name in the list. None of the twin commanders like Dunkirk, Doe or Znamensky have any kind of labeling underneath their name. If you check the last 4 legendary commanders in this subforum / the dev blog, it gets even worse: Swieski? called a "unique historical commander" in both the European Destroyers P2 and European Event Arc articles here in this subforum Cunningham? Is simply called a unique commander in his article, no mentioning of him being a historical figure (which he is) or being a legendary captain Sansonetti? Wanna get both describtions? First appearance in the Italian cruiser part 2 article simply calls him a unique commander w/o stating the exact trigger conditions for his talents. Yet the next article about him calls him a unique historical commander Lütjens? Simply labeled as a unique commander in both his two articles: See here and here Last pair of fictitious commanders for IJN: Only described as " 2 Japanese commanders Raizō Suzuki and Takeo Suzuki with the following enhanced skills: " Afaik the pair that preceded them were the Rong brothers and those were described as "unique commanders" See my confusion. Esp. if we take into account that 1. pretty much all "unique" commanders are a) twins (and the last few ones where all announced as twins right away) and b) purely fictitious persons that never existed, except for.... .... Steven Seagal and Alexander Ovechkin, who are both real persons and were part of some kind of promo deal. Not to mention that Seagal got renamed after the deal ran out and got the twin treatment then too. With Seagal being renamed Ovechkin is the only non-fictitious one, yet without any ties to naval history. 2. Which is not the case for any of the "legendary" commanders, who are a) dead real historical figures and b) had some more or less successful naval careers and c) all have no twins Which would make Michiel de Ruyter a very strange choice for a simple unique (non-legendary commanders, because: 1. He is a real naval figure 2. He doesn't get the twin treatment (which would be utter nonsense of course) 3. His historical legacy in regards to Dutch history (both naval and in general) far outstrips some of the other legendary commanders. If we judge his importance by the length of his wiki article, he beats guys like Auboyneau and Sansonetti hands down.

Unique Dutch commander Michiel de Ruyter with the following enhanced skills: For Destroyers, Cruisers and Battleships: "Pyrotechnician" — chances of main battery HE shells causing a fire on target +1.5% instead of the standard 1%; For Cruisers and Battleships: "Expert AA marksman" — priority sector AA damage +35% instead of the standard 25%. Unique = legendary (like Halsey), which means talents along with those two boosted skills or unique= unique, so only boosted skills but no talents (like Dunkirk) ?

And what entitles you to a captain refund? Also what captain? And why do you think everyone would be happy then? Missionswise I don't see any issue here with the new system of WG. For example: Get 100 fire ribbons (T5-10 dutch ships) or get 50 fire ribbons (Friesland, Groningen, 7 Provincien)... should be doable for WG if they want to. Economic aspects also works both ways (player economy and WG economy). I mean while its pretty easy to frame WG as being either the dumb culprit or the evil capitalistic overlord and just claim "whole problem wouldn't be here if Friesland never was EU to start with" (for example) + "that means I'm entitled to some kind of compensation", it simply could be that WG had quite good reasons for both meshing all single Prems like Bylska, Friesland and VU in a single nation and now breaking up that pattern. 1. They are a company, not the salvation army: maybe they thought that small - premium only- nations are a utter ECXP sink and unless the ships there are broken as hell or 200% historical overhyped, the only dudes buying those are either hardcore collectors or people from that nation. Which also means the smaller said nation, the lower WGs chances to earn more money than they spend on developing/designing that ship. From that PoV EU as a placeholder nation totally makes sense. 2. We don't know how far in advance they have mapped out their game development plan or how concrete their plans for any kind of dutch silver line was back when Friesland went into the design/balancing phase... It's rather easy to say in hindsight "well, they should have know that this will create an issue in the future" And about that ressource based problem: The big question again is: for how many people is that really an issue and does it makes sense for WG to go that extra mile to pamper each and every person with an ultra consumer friendly solution, when they a) are not the ones to fault if s.o has some weird patriotic relationship to dutch commanders or Friesland (RPG/immersion element or because Dad served on Friesland...) and b) are creating a precedent. People are feeling entitled, wronged or economically harmed at a point where we don't know enough about the situation to fully judge it. Let''s think about it in regards to the question "Karl Doorman/dutch unique commander": Starting point for our little theory crafting: NL will get a unique commander (lets call him Doorman to keep it simple) , who is so blatantly stronk that not bringing him up to Lv 19-21 and not using him both for the cruiser grind AND Groningen is criminally stupid (from a sheer pragmatic PoV, any immersion/rpg aspect not taken into account) Scenario 1: WG allows you to transfer a captain from EU to NL ...even one who's not assigned to Friesland anymore (or never was) Scenario 2: compensates you with a Level 10 commander, if you trade Friesland for Groningen (equal to what you would have gotten by either buying her for cash as a bundle or getting her from a santa crate/SC drop) Scenario 3: WG only allows you to trade Friesland for Groningen (actual plan) In that case you're not losing much with their actual plan compared to the two other scenarios: If you transfer a captain, you potentially lose one in the EU line (so further EXCP investment) and unless you either plan very far ahead into the future (like Dutch DD line) or don't only care about the T10 cruiser, said transfered captain isn't much of a deal any more after you get Doorman. Same goes for the the gifted 10pt captain scenario. Sure, there will be cases where people get the short stick and wouldn't in Scenario 1. But I would argue that those are very rare cases, which brings us back to that WG economy argument. For me personally scenario 1 holds no value. Heck, even if WG went all in and had stuck to the plan of simply transfering Friesland + cloning the captain who sits on her on patch day wouldn't be so valuable. On paper I could invest 1.2M to upgrade my Östergotland Captain (T9 CBs, will be reskilled for Smaland in the future) to Lv21 and then get a "free" 21pt captain for NL cruisers on patch day, worth 2.9m ECXP. But that 21pt captain is of no real use for me anymore in the near future if I want to run Doorman on Gouden Leeuw + Friesland. Only value would be a) if T8 cruiser DZP wants a totally different build and Doorman unique talents not making up for that or b) I care about being extremely future proof and betting on Dutch DDs being a thing. That's a lot of ifs&maybes and thus nothing to get mad about. If I were WG I would do a UK CV split and then reuse those Colossus class... just saying. Makes to me way more sense than that "cloning a fake Saipan for SEA server playerbase".

I do have her and I'm pretty sure Groningen will see more playtime in the long run for me due to how the captain rework has changed my plans. Esp. if NL gets a unique captain (say Karel Doorman) with gun-centric boosted skills and talents. Think is Friesland has pretty low synergy imho with both the regular IKEA DDs (who have torps) and Smaland or Orkan, who due to higher radar range compared to Friesland hydro can drop CE for more DPM skills (esp. the reworked brawler one). For me Friesland lost a lot of appeal esp with the rework: Basically you need a dedicated captain if you want to get the most of out it and EU offers no synergies, so from a fully pragmatic PoV you'd rather invest those ECXP somewhere else (=other nation with more variety of premium ships). And that's the thing: Even if NL does not get a unique commander, there is way more synergy between running the dude you want to train up for the T10 CA also on Groningen. You can't do that with Friesland... Which may be one reason why I'm fine with the way WG is approaching it. 1. I already have Friesland, purchased her for FXP ~1month after she hit the store... 2. Patch 10.7 is ~9 weeks into the future, plenty of time for WG to tell us more about the whole Dutch early access event incl. the question unique captain or not 3. Even with 10.7 I have a whole patch to decide if I want to keep Friesland or exchange her for Groningen 4. I need a captain for that line anyway and my personal expectation was something along the line of "move +10pt unless you have a assigned captain". So I already started stockpiling ECXP and I'm wasn't stupid enough to spend ECXP on EU captains in the hope that I can choose which captain to transfer 5. Even with a HSF style approach to shared captains I still would have needed to save up on ECXP for that line anyway True, we simply all don't know enough to make a decision right now if swapping her is a good idea or not. Too many variables, also the reason why I don't get that whole torches and pitchfork vibe...