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Why not? e.g.gneise have a 32% fire chance, mioko, considered a fire starter have 23% I'm not saying shooting HE it's the answer for BBs in general, but it's a nice way to blow up the repair consumable of the red ship or eating away some more HP (his choice). I tried and it works as intended. gneise have 70 and something seconds torp reload time, I have cruisers above 100 seconds. There are high tier bbs that have a concealment of a t6 cruiser. we were in the verge of having a battle cruiser with AA and hydro, in the end WG release it as a bb I find that odd, but nevermind me. the thing is, they are putting a lot of pressure in the cruisers. yes, mainly there is a lot of them in the MM and they came in all forms. yes, they nerfed the fire damage in the cruisers only because they had to. setting your cruiser on fire two times was enough to sink you. 5 bbs in a game will not chance any time soon (there are hundreds more in queue), so why not revamp the cruisers and older lines?

Take it easy, relax. I'm not saying that's a low number your post it's teeming with frustration. That's all. you are wrong about Co-op, it's a perfect environment to test your guns and try to see what's the problem, to work around it and by your answer, you didn't go there yet or to the training room. you are up against some formidable dds, I know some of them, they tend to bruise my ego also. But I worked around it. that's a good thing take a break and go for something else, then you can come back more refreshed p.s.- My turd it's rusting in the harbour waiting for the US split.

yes he can, because of turret transverse speed and you can shoot your guns when they are locked with CTRL+X.

First of all. I only managed. Are you in a race? There's players with fewer battles than you that are in t10 and there are players with more battles than you and they aren't even close to t10. I'm not even talking about skill acquired along the way. Pace yourself, enjoy the ride. second, not only the ships differs but also the players up there. third, perhaps you are burning yourself up. Have you tried training room or co-op? If so, how it went? Is it possible that you are a bit scrambled (after all it's a lot of ships). I eared in one of the lasts Jingles videos, that Iowa has the same guns than NC but the barrels are longer, so there is a difference in shell velocity, could be that? 701m/s vs 762 m/s type of grouping? (that doesn't may seem a lot, but e.g. the Sherman couldn't penetrate the Tiger but the Sherman firefly could, the difference? same calibre but longer barrel)

one of my ships.

I wouldn't say no to a heal but... the chunk of hp that a bb recover wouldn't be the same in a cruisers. and there are other things too, like fire chance they are superior in bb than in cruisers (I know, I know, the reload and guns) but I'm just saying. torp reload time, it can be better than in some cruisers. No AA and hydro.

there's a flaw in your suggestion. 1) all skilled players would be in this competitive random battle, that would produce more potatoes. 2) the new potato goes to standard random battles and starts to seal clubbing, puff, a unicorn again. 3) nothing to see here, nothing happened. The fact is... with no potatoes there isn't unicorns and without unicorns there isn't potatoes. that and trends, stupid trends. I saw a video where this girl (femme something) was not playing a cv because some technical issues with the last patch or something. She was very apologetic about playing a mino with smoke and not a mino with radar. Apparently in NA server a mino with radar it is the thing and a mino with smoke it's for ussies. WTF? well, try to figuring out those Unicorns. ahahahahahah. She could play whatever she wanted...

that's nothing to do with anti torp bias, if that is a thing.

yes, I am. Despite sharing your opinion. (I like everyone of them, of those, Cleveland it's my least favourite). In my opinion, Cleveland needs, at least 3 to 5 more knots of speed, it's very slow at 32.5 knots, the engine and turret transverse speed it's also very sluggish, and it bleeds speed in a turn or manoeuvring. Nurnberg it's one of my boys , but it's very slow at 32 knots and it bleeds speeds wile turning and manoeuvring (dodging) you can go as fast as a Bayern in a strait line, and that's [edited]slooooowwwwwww especially for a cruiser. LaGal, I prefer LaGal to Cleveland, and Degrasse (almost) but it's the slowest of them all, 33. something knots with speed boost, and that's old. Buddy, it's just my BOY. but lacks something, perhaps 6km or 7 km torps. With this little tweaks I think would turn them more comfortable without making them OP. But they are others needing not a buff, but a update and not only in this class.

Some ship are like that brand new.

a simple solution it's not making everyone do the same requirements in the same stage of a mission. yeah we would lose the usual MM floods of a type of ship. But it would keep everyone on track. And not force people to play a certain type of ship in a massive numbers. e.g. In that 25 torps mission.(for the French collection) I made it through with my cruisers, the few games I made with my destroyers I limited myself to kamikazes attacks and I wasn't the only one. when I finished I put my relieve in the chat and also I found out that I wasn't the only one.

the problem it's when your primary armament it's not torps and you got to do it anyways.

I gave it a go in my Normandie, a couple of missions. and wow. I like it, even stock and it is fast and very manoeuvrable. crappy guns, thou. change those guns for 152mm ones, and it will be amazing. But the germans are just strait out better. I'm thinking only using HE against everything because firing AP against BBs it's like an akatsuki without IFHE, it's bounces or shattered shells. Nothing more.

yeap, stop torps mission, they suck.

they are II WW ships, what did you expect? ahahahah

Oh several of them buddy. Nurnberg LaGal Cleveland

This screen shot looks very familiar to me. Tell me , a few days ago,did you noticed something in your way to kraken in Neighbours ? I did warn my team to be extra careful with your gadja but at the end I guess nobody cared about it. ahahahahah

sorry, but I got to say, 25 knots in a strait line and for a while it's nothing to write home about. others are just slower. generally speaking Perhaps Wargaming could tweak for better the older ships each time a new line was introduced. Not only to make them more resilient to power creep but also to be more refreshed. Because, let's face it in some cases it's pure cruelty. And i'm not even being bias. For example USBBs the stock versions are the slowest being around 18 knots. ( +-t6 and t7) while all the rest seems to be around 21 knots. Why not making small tweaks like that? Would make those ships so OP? What WG could possibly lose in their profit model oriented business?

well, Fuso and Kongo , I don't like them. You can be 100% right but Not my type of bb and for supporting it's not a big thing because most probably they are in snipping mode and you end up miles away from everything. What I'm saying can be applied to the Germans also but when you find one willing to go in it can be epic. I like it very much. Yes, it have it's downsides. but better than Cleveland and DeGrasse in some aspects. Despite I bought Degrasse a couple of months ago, to this day I hesitate between the two. In fact if the two were in reversed spots LaGal would be better. Despite not being top anything material, it's no dog either, it's just a reliable ship when you need to go to.

yeap, I was not fun of it either, but didn't had any choice, it was that or giving him the broadside and we were trailing by a few points, so I decided to take him on (not the best ship to do that, thou), but overall, we were in the weeds during all the battle, no spoting, no caps and we were suffered from crossfires, so that win felt good. But it's not that isolated case, because it's also very skill dependable, knowing how to spot a rushable? bb helps a lot. I did encounter him early on (+- 15 to 13 kms away) no big deal, and he turned away , later on he only cut me off because he runned away back to his base, he remain broadside to me going straight well, that depends of player to player every one starts from different spots but they get better. I can blame a lot of my stats to earlier tiers but I won't. It is what it is. I'm not stale and that's a good thing I have to say I'm not a big fun either of long range HE spamming (I'm not saying I don't do). But,. came on... what I'm and that dd plus a deceased Shchors were suppose to do against 2 Bismarks, 1 Colorado, a N.O. and 1 or 2 dds? (I'm not sure about the exact numbers of dds). And this screen shot was taken in minute 13. (today) Leave the flank opened so those guys can sink faster? I warned them since I was in E4 all way to C9 (by the way, those 8 ships got wrecked in D.) And that's not new. It's happening all the time. Yes, the charges but all of us got charges to spare when we got sunk. And besides in the decent battles what you say becomes not very accurate or valid . the problem is being in a decent battle. Apart of getting better and a lot of other things like the flow of a battle. the state of cruisers, yeap, that I'm starting to agree with you. I wasn't here for the German bbs, but I was here for the RNBBs where they introduced HE, well, cruisers simply had to be buffed (they cut the fire damage duration by half) just to keep them functional. They were dropping faster than flies. Now they introduced volume of fire. Overall the problems with cruisers I think it's the lack of new blood pumped into them, adapt, adapt. What about evolution, WG? What about new and improved cruisers? yeah, yeah, new ship fever tends to flood the MM, in just in the other day I was the only cruiser on my team. yeah, havaduck, 5 bbs to 1 cruiser. and the other cruiser, the red cruiser can say the same. But I get the feeling this starts to be the problem of other classes also, in the form of power creep.

No worries, I got a lot of (bbs) under my buddy's belt. I already told that buddy it's my second best brawler. that ship it's just unbelievable stronk. But have it's weaknesses. but would be so nice if instead of a number, the kills were discriminated by type and tier. bb x kills c from t6, d from t7, z from t8 cl/ca y kills and so on dd k kills and so on of a total of t kills. and so on that way we wouldn't go round and round like this. Because I could showed you some screen shoot right now but I don't have all of them and it's not practical having screen shots of every single battle. And nobody's interested to see them. I'm not anything special but I already gave my take on buddy in a few topics, i'll not do it in this one for obvious reasons, mainly, for being in a bb topic. If they want to see they have to dig at least something. "I have shitty stats in Budy too " I don't know why? perhaps there's a lot of people like this. But often I ask myself why I don't see more buddies in the MM, I see much more clevelands e.g. One thing I can tell you. of all t6 I have, all of them dwarfs in the buddy's shadow (and I'm not the only one saying this), buddy casts a shadow on t7 ships and reaches the t8 ones. Non other t6 ship can hold so well it's own against up to t8 ships. Would you believe me if I said to you that I just brawled a gneise with a Degrasse 8kms or less and I came out and he didn't ? Or you guessing more ponies stuff?

Noap, it's just a nerf to a cruiser

Kuma took a dive, what's the reason? Last time I checked, Kuma was a tommy gun. even ST.Louis, so well regarded among... everybody and at the end all talk Bayern, 5th place? What? Gneisenau I can see why, but Bayern? Bayern it's not a bad ship, but, oh man, good luck in operations you will sweat bullets just to keep up with the others. In raptor Bayern have no chance, it's the leftovers ship, in others you have to be extreme aggressive just to be in a fight. Well, I am. there's a lot of ships that I expected to be up there and they aren't. like Akatsuki, kabha, etc.

that's exactly the point, why hydro on Cleveland? because most probably. Cleveland it's not a dd hunter, but when you are facing some situations with a dd you can be in advantage because exactly that. Why hydro on a Cleveland? until it's too late for the dd. it's a bit of situational thing, I grant you, but usual pays off the bluff and some times big time. So, sometimes I use Hydro. and if you want to extend the hydro usefulness there's always those situations where you can light him up for all your teammates to see and finish him of.