Butterdoll

well bbs tank it better, but some cruisers can tank it too. In some ops repair spots are a diversion and if you go for it you'll miss the timing part. In raptor I often ended up with a few HP points after I killed the last kuma, Aoba and one bbs, in some games I sunk the all lot and sometimes I begin the last act of the battle with 5000/8000 HP. Either way only citadels counts there, speeds count specially if Ryojo's still alive . I never went or go for repairs if I am full health or low health. you just have to manage your HP because you can't just swap HP for advantages in the "terrain" like sinking that dd that it's spotting you and your team for the Kongo.

Lack of vodka? I don't know their nationality No, because they hope others to carry them through the game and they for some reason lash out against others. Lately in ops there's been a lot of that maybe players seeking safe harbour from weekends and bring with them the ill temperament and ill manners of random. And the vast majority end up the game way below 1000 points. One thing I tell you, if team damage was on I would be pink a lot. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with being below 1000 points ( the less they got the more you'll have at the end) Just don't beach about it and don't be a little [edited], ruining a relaxing and fun environment.

yes you will struggle a lot in operations with a bb. But like your topic about raptor you can turn it around (as I explained there) in all the operations with one exception, killer whaler. In short. In raptor, if you make a short cut and if you time it right you can do a lot. (Bayern) In Newport, you have to be extremely aggressive, you have to ignore the dds and dodge torps a lot (which isn't that hard), with your secondaries firing all the time, the first half you can't go too deep forward( to not being focused by the third wave and to be on time), then you have to choose if there is a cv to protect, you have to block them, going strait up in the far right or going to the bottom left corner of the map. If there isn't a cv just go protect the base (Bayern) In Aegis, pass the first island at your left then go strait forward, or slightly in diagonal, upwards then escort the fleet, blocking others while the others take care of the cvs (Bayern) In the last frontier, well, just have fun, there is a few different combinations there depending of your team mates, you are in a cruiser after all (Gneisenau) In killer whale, it's hopeless you just have to have speed, one thing that you don't have. The French operation I didn't play it in a bb. But came on, we don't need one operation made specifically for bbs, you have the game already for that.

how about your favourite ship(s)? It might do the job

Well, at first I meant to came here to put some of my games. By the way: update. as I come out of cover at b3 sometimes there is a Myoko+ Aoba instead of a Kuma, when the Myoko appears he will go strait to b3. At C5 a couple of dds will screen where you are making more difficult to get the Aoba and Kuma at D4. Guess is the game adapting to that. If you or your team don't get the dds they will spot you for the bbs.(Kongo). Moving on. I've been notice a trend in the last few days. Apparently some of the salt usually found in random it's contaminating the operations, I don't like that. it's turning a relax and joyful place in something else. Just now a poor bastard in a QE ate 8 torps, at the end when he wrote in chat. At least I shielded the raptor from 8 torps one guy replied [edited]off. I checked the chat and there wasn't anything else, just that. It's just getting old.

How can I get one for myself?

I am getting better. My first step was ditching the TURD for good. One ship that it's very similar it's the little backwards sparrow (konisberg) if a flank it's crumbling you are just an observer. You can't go in there and if you go your guns will simply not work.

Unfortunately, it's not up to us to decide. Every time I see one in the MM regardless of which team they are. I do not put much faith on them. My US line halted because of the TURD I'm just waiting for the split. And unfortunately i'll be stuck with the TURD at t6 (why t6? why not t5 or t4, hell they could put it at t1 for targeting practice). I get it, some love it, some don't. some see it like a refined thing, some see it what really is, a floating TURD.

ooohhh, man that would be so awesome. from a wet dream to full porn, I would like that buff

No , it can't. LaGal can do it, but not the TURD. If you turn, the guns start to malfunctioning immediately .plus the reload... Like I said a long time ago, that leaves you with only one option... ram. I like the hull, I like the rudder. But the turd's guns are just crap. And we are not even talking about RN ships that can maintain speed while turning, the Turd it's slow and bleeds speed all over when turning or manoeuvring and the guns can't even do that (keep up). Playstyle? L2P? well, I'm not sure because Nurnberg a squishy and slow ship but can do it, the difference? the guns. Schohrs, another Turd if not for the amazing guns furutaka, I like him, a though little bastard. the first and last impression. Wrong.

Well, don't. your RNCLs can be made of glass but they got smoke and a lot of ROF. the turd it's slow turninnnnnngggg the turrets and can't fire without asking permission to the pope and waiting for reply. Just remember this.

t6 pensa, with 152 mm guns and a armour buff that would be ok.

So far, Bayern, Cleveland and buddy. I tried with Normandie but nothing special so far. Things to keep in mind. I've done this because of bayern's lack of speed, this largely depends on time it right. So the first attempts probably will go kind of meh... with the cruisers the first kill zone it's awesome (the second two but it's trickier) in the first red X you have to stop to wait for them but be aware of kuma's torps (the second ship) and the dds (torps and HE, so play with 1/4 speed and reverse speed while shooting and citadeling. you have to citadel for making a dent in them. Depending of the ship, but let's take Cleveland. As you reach C5 wait for the detection sign, you have to be ready then because you have 1 shot each (Aoba and Kuma) through the gap, after the kuma, turn your bulls eye to D5 and wait for that Aoba to appear again you have 3 shots after that aim for Kuma (you will sink them both or make them easy for your team to kill them). be aware of the two destroyers sink them if you can. After that use that gap again (be slow) to put some fires at the bbs or citadel one of the cruisers. Be aware if your team sunk the second cv or not. As you leave cover at B3 usually you have the two cruisers perfect broadsiding you but be aware you have to tank against two bbs. after sinking the two cruisers you now have to live, time your retreat right. between the bb shots. if the cv it's still there go outside the island at C2, be aware of the bbs and planes. if the cv was already sunk you can focus on the bbs.

So, you are up against some of same ships as I. (t6 to t9). And I experimented the same thing. in the beginning (of the French dd thing) was less bbs but now it's more like you said. I too being in games where I was the only cruiser. And are harder that ones especially with two cv in each side.

came on, Kirov it's not that bad. But hey, it's your lost, next ship it's awesome.

yeap. which good guns? where? be sunk? yeap.

hey, I'm just a tourist here, seeing a movie.

Well you can think what you want. But by experience I didn't find one reward ship yet that is not being played by a non solid and purple player. As I said before some of the ways to counter a dd non of those things it's important unless you are overstretched. But I was not comparing the two in that way. I was only trying to illustrate the main difference between a reward ship and a premium ship. But hey, go for that stuff, Radar, smoke, good concealment it will help. But the Lion's share it is not in that.

I'm not acting like one. I'm just being frank. Same thing goes with the Flint/Atlanta. (another reward ship) when I see one in the other team I know that I'm for a ride. Same thing goes. you see, The difference between the kidd and Black it's exactly that. One it's premium other it's a reward ship. One you can beat it the other it's much more difficult because even if you focus and be at the top of your game, there's always the chance that wouldn't be sufficient. Because it's not a ship for the masses it's a reward ship that you only get after you accomplish something. Often I see them with pirate flags on them . How you earn those flags, again? Just keep that in mind next time. about t8 and t9 I have a clue, and always down tiered.

Perhaps it's us that are spoiled. we had Cleveland at t6. And WG perhaps wants something to give a better continuity to Omaha. Older players sing prazes about the old Cleveland, how it was a monster then it got nerfed and putted in t6? How he belongs at t8. I have my doubts, but who am I to say anything. But t8 faces t10 ships, perhaps they will kill a "legend". there's so many ships I eared about being strong and monsters and now they are shrunken to oblivion.

The TURD will be in trouble at t6. And you forget about MM. decent broadside against DDs...man, you simply can't, they will eat you alive without HE or torps. In a t6 cruiser you have to face t8 dds as they were cruisers. But with those factors (reload, armour, speed and sluggishness) you simply can't. With those numbers Dallas will be a pure support ship and a bad one, and at the first sign of trouble you have to move on or be swept away. sorry, I just don't share your optimism.

I eared of it. Isn't Black a reward ship? Black it's op because of the players that have it not because of the ship itself. How to counter the Black? Blow him up from the water like every other dd. Some of the ways radar it's not even important. How to do it it's the real question. you should ask yourself. How to counter successfully a player better than you ( I assume that because I assume that you don't have one) I didn't face a Black yet, but Kidds I already face them once or twice. always with a cruiser two tiers below Tough as nails but I've got them.

Which tier do you play?

No, they have to chance something until release. If as is Dallas will have all disadvantages of a sluggish and slow ship. In fact, they are speaking of Worcester and comparing it with Atlanta, WTF? But I'm only seeing copy/paste all over the line. same speed, same velocity shells, etc. Cl's at their best can hold flanks, delay actions when outnumbered, that kind of things. Cl's at their worst can't do any of that. but at least they have great guns. But I think as is Dallas biggest contesters will be non other than t8 dds. They will AP Dallas to the ground. 32.5 knots, slow velocity shells, 10 seconds reload, no armour? It's a death trap. 152= CLs= fast firing guns 16mm = High speed and high manoeuvring capabilities Just saying. I don't need another Turd or another stupid Aoba that's a strait downgrade from furutaka. Being stuck with two turds at t6 it's lame.