Butterdoll

A.K.A. floating turd. try the cls instead. Excuse me ? Ahahahah yeap, the turd at t6 will not have a chance.

I'm no Lawyer, but this means the player have to surrender his rights? even his own account? @Crysantos, @MrConway can you provide with some clarifications about the issues shown in this topic? thank you.

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With a decent team, it's almost doable But let me ask you both If it's so easy like you said... How many of those did you get since? Now compare with before.

Guess I'm suffering for anticipation already.

Dallas it's my biggest hope of the two. I'm very curious about Dallas. well, I cannot say the same I'm preparing to fxp NO, to get to Baltimore. But I need Dallas, it's t6 I cannot afford to have 1 ship less at that tier and the turd, a nerf turd simply it's not adequate for t6. It will remain a bottom feeder, a opportunist, Mediocre at best. As always been. This it's all speculating. greater dispersion, less guns, less range, less AA. So things like that, smalls things I granted make me wonder if... But like I said. I hope that will not chance the T6 felling and feeling the shoes of a proper t6 ship

Horse power. Cleveland has100.000 Hp Dallas has 80.000 Hp May not affect top speed but what about reaction time/sluggishness? Shells wise, forget it yesterday they had different mass between them but it could be from my sleepy eyes. today they are indeed the same.

that's true but for this to happen, the guns need to be on point, locked and loaded and that's it's a only a dream in that ship. see? even you agree.

yeah, I took a look yesterday and don't forget, Dallas have 20.000 Hp less than Cleveland and it's shells are lighter than Cleveland's. I don't know how all of this will translate, I didn't get to see much in the WIP videos, the guy at PTS only managed to shoot down 5 planes but this is against other human player. Worchester in the other hand, there's a lot of videos showing that ship drying out 3 cv worth of planes. Dallas have almost half of AA long range dpm, can it shoot down 40 planes in Aegis? things like tankiness I don't know it's like the Cleveland or more like a turd with 152mm guns? I read your post in US cruisers topic and I decided to make this one. But it's clear that what they did was nerfing 3 times over. 1 Cleveland in t8 2 the turd in t6 and nerfed (it should be at t5 to have a chance at all and out of my way) 3 Dallas not being exactly a Cleveland replacement. But it's with Dallas that my hopes are and there isn't much information about Dallas CC's all they want to know it's t9s and t10s there aren't many videos about dallas In the forum the main attention in this regard are focus in the same ships. So about Dallas? Have you all played it, pls, leave a comment below. thanks.

yeah, right. Das Turd (pls, I don't want to be remembered of that)

thanks. But those links are not from here, I didn't recognise any of the forumites. NA?

I know @ColonelPete but I was talking about this bit. (above) Guess @MrConway can't speak about it, because with this, it's my third time or fourth (I think) I try to call his attention. And no joy. About tinfoil hats I don't know but it happen to me once in Raptor, after the first wave, the Aoba of the second wave focus on me (at the time I was in the third line), that Aoba had a cruiser and a bb that were the nearest ones to it I was the furthest away. the 1000's will not hurt Unicom divisions or who ever is milking the ops until the last drop but will hurt random players in random teams and hurt them badly. in my uber cruiser I have the Christmas fish flag. Cleveland the 75th anniversary of midway French cruisers and on the Turd FNFL flag and Dunkerk Buddy and Nurnberg I have the butterdoll flag (yellow flag with a dog in it) as all of my boys I can benefit from what premium camos have to offer (not all of the ships) and/or the first win. And that's it. As I already shown. It's enough for me but with possible reward nerfs or/and t1000's will not be enough.

No answer by WG... Still waiting for some kind of answer.

How come?

you know My first post in this forum was asking for more cl's. Is more past t6? when they arrive? etc. And finally they are here and they are all the same one (from what I've seen) So far, they all have differences between them in the same tier. But now regardless of which ship i'll have it's find a rock and stay there. And I will lose a CL in the tier that I play and gaining a...CA (you thought I was going to say a tur...ups) , not even Dallas, I have to wait for Dallas. At least WG could postpone the split until the entire line was ready. Less 1 ship for randoms, Less 1 ship for ops. you know when I found Kuma I was in love ( I'm still) all I wanted was another Kuma then I found Budyonni...OMG what a ship. then I found gneisenau... eheheheh. then you have Cleveland, Nurnburg (it's just like buddy but different), LaGal, Emile, furutaka, yeah I can say Shchors. Phoenix/Omaha, Kirov. I'm with high hopes about Hipper. All of them I would miss if I had a bunch of kumas @Exocet6951

No, Cleveland it's not OP. If it was OP, what would Buddy be, the King of t6s? or Nurnberg? Or even LaGal? Just to name a few. I love t6s, they are amazing ships much better than most of the t7s and I'm not even talking about the USS Floating Turd. Maybe the most well balance tier or one of the most well balance tier in game? I don't know about that but I've been told this several times. A strong ship, a proud ship (as are others t6s) being reduced to a Atlanta clone. (nothing wrong with Atlanta or against Atlanta). As all the others. Atlanta premium t7 ship Atlanta t7 ship Atlanta t8 ship Atlanta t9 ship? Atlanta t10 ship (previous known as Worchester) A lot of Atlantas don't you think?

we are just speaking, ofc. the radar... you know, until t6 every cruiser are all over the map, CL vs CA, CA/CL vs bb, BB vs DD, etc, you name it. From t7 onwards every god dammit CL must go behind a god forsaken island. It's like we will get a x amount of ships, all Atlanta clones Radar, pff. Keep it. exactly that. I'm very sceptical about standing against... I'm not even talking about a equal footing. Any t6 silver cruiser can stand against a t8 ship, some better than others, but all will stand it's ground and do it well, generally speaking. (and that's perhaps the achille's heel of the t8)

Cleveland it's a ship at t6, a strong ship, WG could translate that to t8 Cleveland, but no. Cleveland it's a ship that you can be in all the map, behind a rock, in open water, etc. In the future it will be reduced to a Atlanta you know, when a ship have many things, you know that ship is crap if you mess up. one thing it's burning down a Bayern or a Bismark, but a t10 bb? t6 Cleveland can stand it's ground against a t8 anything class wise. t8 Cleveland can't. He has to go crawling behind a rock p.s.- I have nothing against Shchors

I don't know about that, I played only two ships out of 5 or 6 . Gneisenau and Shchors either one was my go to ship when the other was in cooldown, all the others it's pure garbage there, Algerie, myoko, the Turd, oh and York. Limit players income? ok, WG. but after that nerf, what will be left of the reward? @MrConway P.s.- This time around I'm not even bother to do ops.

exactly my point. let us not forget the others t10s, t9s Oh no, i never pick up that Turd again. I have others but i will miss it. A lion turned into a peasant.

i don't have a screen shot per say. But i finished the hunt for Bismark and i won the Tachibana Lima. Very beautiful camo, the guns don't seem too bad apart of the calibre. A very Dandy looking ship.

yes it's true, I will lose a great ship and in top of that adding assault to injury I will get THE turd instead. But that's not all to a ship to get from 8 s reload to 6 s. gaining radar and other stuff, the new Cleveland will be a easy cherry to pop. If it wasn't to be it would not receive so many things. Cleveland it's one of the greatest at t6 and will be turned into a mediocre Atlanta behind a rock. Cleveland at t8 will have what range? 15 kms? My stock Bismark have 19. something kms And they are others much more accurate. what's the smallest range at t10? DM? what's the reload time on that one? which calibre?

A lot of changes. https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/99686-ultimate-frontier-ruined/

I doubt that very much because Cleveland it's one of the best t6 ships. the turd was never good, it's not good and will be even worst at t6. I think people old remember the oldest and the old Cleveland (the current one) with love and will miss it. yeah, perhaps. a t8 Schohrs with no range. they could do the same thing to the t6 turd, but no, let us keep those awful guns but even slower and use cheese as armour. Well my furutaka it's getting ready for the slaughter.

it's a lot of bad luck, then. played a few games today and nothing to brag about in nº of fires. I'm not saying it's bad...maybe my expectations were too high ? because it's not happening what I saw in the videos. (double fires and stuff) am I missing something? Well I just went from a 11s, rudder to a 22s rudder, from 32 knots to a 28.5 knots, so there's lot room to improve. But that will come in place with time. The fires, in other hand...