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@veslingr Well, this semi plebs here is very happy. PR grind don't affect me at all. - it's not my tier - I don't like the ship/concept (battle cruiser AKA what's wrong with our ships, today ship, I might as well be in a BB, they are slow as one) and so on. what rubbed me in the wrong way was two things. - the prize is too steep ( +200 euros for a virtual ship, a code) - And the steep grind in Christmas time. - the way the grind was made to forces us (who wants to grind PR) to spend money. - PR was heavily announced to be a free ship (a reward ship, was what I thought) And no, you don't have to pay for a premium. PEV, Graf Spee are two examples of that but certainly there were more. I myself was expecting something in those lines, after all, it's Christmas, not time enough But no, all we did get was this PR mess. Now, I'm close to finish to D2 ( I didn't play in the first week) but meanwhile and through daily missions I manage to unlock the third booster, that will put me at phase 18 completed, so... 3 more days of premium time 7.000 coal , very handy for the go faster flags and others (1 + 2 + 4) 10k free XP, very handy to unlock lines that I don't have yet and a big Santa container and a mega one. Perhaps, Graf Spee it's in one of them (fingers crossed) I know, I know, what I said about battle cruisers, but Graf Spee is the hero of river plata. I will not resume, because even if I do D3 I will not have enough for unlocking the fourth booster (200 vs 300 tokens) So, WG decided for me, I'm out of the grind and pretty happy with what I did or will get. I'm free of that clusterfck. ticking at 340 ppm, the speed. I was realistic with my expectations and I'm happy. -

Simple, I have Jingles in ALL my ships, all. He's the UBER ( with two dots over the U) commander. The guy never gets old , despite the fact I always have to double check what's spotted. Regarding the 3 points, he will sit nicely in my higher tier ships when I get those, is where All my lowest skill captains are.

Well, we both have very distinct P.O.Vs. from each other. I'm having fun with older ships. Sorry you don't see fun. You have Gneisenau, that's an awesome ship. I myself have enough coal and free XP to go to higher tiers but I find myself sitting on those resources. Mostly because I already find fun in what I have. If you want team play, ask your clan members, create or join divisions, get yourself some acquaintances to play with you. Despite all the egoism and greed, you can still play and have some fun.

So, you want a giant? Pick Bismarck

wait, wait. Don't do things in co-op expecting assistance or relying on your team mates. In co-op your team are the competition Be aggressive, be merciless and you have to be fast with a way out if you derp, and be lucky From the gate, head to a cap full steam ahead and be dominant. Perhaps if you change your approach your Gorizia will be better. Choose well your targets and strike them fast and for good (when in fragile ships) and only if you can. Co-op can be very competitive. Be reckless in border of reasoning and smart helps too.

The problem is Christmas, missions should be lighter on the grind. Not enough time. All of those (previous post) was made in co-op. I'm doing for free and in a casual mode, I do see a lot of Gorizias, but I'm relying in what I have. While Bayern and Gneisenau are the work horses. Nurnberg is being awesome overtaking Bayern and Gneisenau in performance One ship I don't pick for a long time it's La Gal, but with a little of luck and a sympathetic team I was able to do this in a single game. I said I need planes and these guys gave me time that I needed to do this (current at 100 planes) Once I get the ships to sink part done and planes part. The fun will truly starts back in random for a good and old get shot at part of the grind. Bayern will be the chosen again. after that let's see d3, one of the missions it's easier, instead of 90 ships it's "only" 72.

Let's see how this thing goes. today... 150 fires or something ribbons, checked. 65 out of 90 ships sunk 56 million damage dealt, about half done potential damage in bbs is going well (about half) potential damage in cls, needs work 52 out of 300 planes, done (I'm finding too few cvs) Let's see. these missions are extremely grindy,

I'm doing it too, d2 will be the last if I'm able to do it. So, don't get disappointed, even if you don't make it, you will catching a few cool things in the way

Ahahahahahahah. Nice bow, but the guy is 600 years late. Back in the day he would be the Colt of the middle ages. ahahahahahahahah

yeap, it was that. ufff. What a relief... Now I'm thinking of the many many ships that passed my broadside today without a single shot fired, including a dd at hundred meters away, so close that his torps did nothing, I did nothing to him either thank you I should start checking things before battle.

thank you. But what I find strange it's the secondaries don't fire at all when and where they should.

perhaps stage 14? I'm doing the second one, started today I don't know if I'm able to complete that one. Just doing it casual. Meanwhile something's wrong with my Gneisenau, I often end battles with no secondaries hits.

Man, yesterday... or better yet, today I was short 9 ships, after grinding the credits I needed in random I just went for those 9 ships in co-op. It was quick. Pick a ship, full ahead and deal what it comes into your way. - you don't have to have 1000 points, if the bots don't cap, as soon as their points reach zero, the game ends. - your main competition is your own team - if you have the chance, let the bots cap, it will slower the game, regarding points - you must be way more aggressive in co-op But I understand your frustration there were 2 games where I thought sinking my own team members ( I was in a Bayern) 1 - a Gneisenau that was killing everything in front of me 2 - a bot furutaka and a nurberg that were cleaning everything at the cap, I aimed for their citadels, I only shot at the furutaka. I wanted to go to bed (in my defense) and in that stage I was only 1 ship short. Carry on, man

So, I just finished the 1 st directive the thing is ticking 236 points a minute now. I'm at phase 6 ( in the 2 nd stage), with 2180.000 something points. How far can I go?

No, there is still a place for dds, and is right between bad cv players. I just came from two games where dds spread chaos in the caps only because they (cvs) didn't kept the dd's spotted. In the last one I was very close to Fubuki or Kangero, if only that little moron (green cv) kept it spotted for a little longer... but no, ofc no, he just drooped on it, missed and never came back to that cap again. I pinged and pinged and pinged and...

And there is where your problem is. So, if you are talking about PR, you gave a ton of money and you are trying to grind the impossible without any guarantees of accomplishing the grind It's the same as setting up to climb Everest only to die from frost bite. I can only imagine how much you are trying to do, to get over that steep wall. No wonder you want to delete your account. Seems to me that you are in a fast lane for a burn out, especially if you are weakened by previous things. Do a ticket asking for your money back (I heard is possible) And take a break from the game.

they are a lot of fun, and they are great. Bayern it's a workhouse, in the last t6 sprint worked well for me despite being outside of what was considered as Meta., In Ops it's great, random, they can be great and fun. Gneisenau is fast and a bully, same thing goes. Bismarck... well it's Bismarck. Mind you, picking German BBs, you are picking brawlers, that means they are not good or consistent at long ranges. It's very improbable to eat citadels with them, but they can still eat massive penetrations (15k to 20k) they are susceptible to HE spam. The problem with german BBs is to recognize the right moment to push/brawl, if done in the wrong way/time they can be easily sunk, you have to reach the brawling phase with as much HP possible they are very susceptive to AP bombs. Nowadays, even with turtle back you have to angle because there are ships out there with bigger calibre that can hurt German BBs Fortunately, RU BBs are in the game now, other line with Brawl(ish) capacity But if you are able to tick all of most of this requirements, they are the best and truly BB line in the game Overall, all the other (apart of these two) lines are soft targets and kind of meh in a bb vs bb, if you ask me.

I see what you mean, but for me French ships went kind of meh for me. CM at the moment, it's a dull ship for me.

try it. I have them and I like them, Nurnberg is one of my top picks. But only you can tell, if you like it or not.

While I agree with you in the Russian part (they aren't bad, they are awesome), I disagree with you in the German part. They aren't mediocre Nurnberg it's a solid and reliable ship, yes, it can evaporate but it can, also, evaporate others. Nurnberg was the ship that contributed the most for the PEV campaign, was with Nurnberg and Bayern that I got rank 1 in t6 sprint and Nurnberg can make good games in random (when there aren't cvs in the game) What can I tell you, I'm a fan. if I need something done, it's one of my go to ships (minus the PR thing)

yes but he didn't answered the question. which was. So, @The_Chiv, care to take another go? you already had another go. thank you.

We already had that. planes spamming torpedoes every 20 seconds and stuff like that. see patch 8.0

I'm playing casual as always. This kind of things tend to go overhead with deadlines and with budgets, anyways. probably next Christmas will be ready. But I have to ask the trade unions . they just came out of a 4 or 3 days strike. I'm not willing to pay what they want for over time hours, these soon into the building process

Eventually. For a while the direction I'm taking is a specific captain for each ship. British line is the only line I don't have. I'm a beginner but I shouldn't be. HuangHe will tell, it's the closest I have to RNcls Thank you for the input. So far, I have IFA, AR, DE, IFHE

thank you all So far I did 8 battles with it and felt not a big deal about it. And when it come out the CCs demolished this ship as being meh at best. but since then I saw people praising the ship. It will be a school for me.