Butterdoll

oh, I forgot. you didn't see nothing, wait and see.

for now, it's just the calm before the storm. ahahahah

perhaps there's a fault in your logic, yes the cruiser it's the hunter, but yesterday the lower tiers were saturated with dds, by today or tomorrow you will have (sooner or later) a superior number of dds at your tier and if the this trend maintains this way you'll be the focus of the dds (bbs will be the first ones to run away) and the hunter becomes the prey. will be rough and dark days for everything that's not a dd. Personally I just brace to impact. Only Imagine, you are being rushed by several dds at once,

oh, they coming, they are coming. And WG put a challenge for the weekend for bbs just for those guys could have something to shoot at.

And rough seas

I have four t7 ships, two of them full stock versions with the captains in the red. I was waiting for this operations to put the captains and the ships at their fullest.

was just to vote for our favourite ship for an upcoming event. But I don't put my hopes up, because last time I checked the bbs were ahead in the poll.

Oh man, and why? the first day the operation, a new operation is up and it's a big scam. perhaps it's because it's new? perhaps it's because you (you as in generally speaking) don't now how to play it? perhaps it's because you went for it without a single clue how to do it? perhaps it's because the community players (teammates) don't know how to do it, yet? You know what... Dynamo, Halloween and all the others.

Hold your horses just a bit. It's the turn of the dds to have a mission for them. BBs already got there's, the English BBs, and cruisers had it too, but to answer your question. Neither. times to times, appears missions like that for all classes or for a specific class of a particular line, so if you didn't got any so far, please wait for your turn. So. In the past when there was a FNFL flag mission to grind all you could saw was French ships. When was the RN BBs all you could saw was freaking BBs. Now it's dd's, and so what?

The first line I picked and drop it in complete disappoint , then I picked up again that line, and again, utter disappointment. I even won two of those RN BBs, sold them as soon I got the chance with 0 battles. I don't want to have nothing to do with that line. Yes, t7 upwards they can be good, but so are others.

you missed the point, or you missed understood me. The RNCL's are very specialized ships, very strong within their comfort zone (t6 forward), but that's it, if you take out smoke they fall apart. Others ships aren't, at least as much. They are more versatile. Even a dd it's not so dependent , a dd can do battle start to finish without smoke.

RNCL's were a utter disappointment, yes they can carry or turn a game because of smoke, the only thing they have, apart of ROF and british AP shells. But if you take the smoke from them, they probably are completely hopeless. Others ships are more complete in that sense, and if you gave them smoke probably they would smash the RNCLs, Flints, etc. A budyonni with smoke vs a Leander, etc, etc. And that's why I don't like them, very needy ships, very dependable of something ships, because they are worthless by themselves. Others ships can coupe better with limitations. yeah, smoke is priceless.

I don't doubt that. But until t6 they are awful, they can be citadel with HE, no DE and no IFHE, just with old plain HE shells. And Esmerald forward don't like them too, they depend heavily on smoke to do something.

option A. option C. and forget option B, that's not an option, it's a mistake. try French.

I hope not and if not. Probably then I will play my bb more often, because I still have my full stock version Bayern and I want to reach Bismark. But it's taking forever.

edit- well, already answered.

the minimap it's crap if you are trying to navigate by it. I'm still having problem with islands, way to many of them, little ones that I can't see in the minimap (I have a big minimap, but...). Ocean map sounds good to me, I want to try it, t7 but until now, no joy. Shards, neighbours, bahghh. I hate so much Weymouth because of that, islands.

Yes I know and it was happily forgotten. Not for me and for many other people as you can see in that topic and in another one, I didn't play WOW for a week after that one. I hadn't two months in the game back then, was hard as hell. So many French ships in the MM in those days, we (French ships) got focus quite a lot in all those games. But even to this day of the few flags I have, the FNFL flag still is the most important one (not only for what represents), and will remain to be for some time. As a cruiser main I know I will regret it later but at the same time, I can not help but feel empathy for those in the same situation and specially for those who are struggling. I hope all of you succeed.

Well, as I'm looking to the tech tree, I see that I'm out of options, cruisers wise. Now I'm looking to the premium ships, and even there, what are the most common it's bb's. So, De Grasse or Duca? I like very much the French line. The Italian Line is unkowned to me (I know it's coming) Latelly I'm picking more LaGal than the Cleve. it's my understanding for what I saw so far. De Grasse it's the fastest ship, capable of breaking the 40 knots mark ( I love that) with LaGal guns ( ok), and trollish armour, can hold it's own, great for defensive play (kitting) and for hunting. A fun ship, right? But How much bigger it's when compared to LaGal? Manoeuvring, how is it? I know it's more sluggish than LaGal, they compared it with a Cleveland but with or without rudder shift (the cleve) ? Duca, it's a fast ship capable of doing around 38 knots, with fast shells, faster than Budyonni's (I love that) great for hunting, slim profile, with low survivability but aggressive play. But. while some like the guns (damage wise) others don't. Some says that's gives very low damage, others say you can citadel cruisers at 10kms Don't have an Italian captain, how do I get a decent one from the get go? How low is it's survivability? Your input would be very appreciated. Thank you.

you're kidding, right? Removing the only useful thing in a cv, right. Do that and you (you as in general) can play a different game by yourselves world of war vessels. Because as is, you cannot have both things or you give support/air cover or you make damage for you. Because as is you can't do either, well. At least half of your team always stays without help (majority of the games these happens) and sometimes some of you try to snipe the other cv. Leaving the rest of your team without cover. you need more fighter squadrons, less cool down time and a change to reward system. Remove fighters, oh boy. No more comments. Or you can, I don't know, support the Flanks or the push with fighters, you will be relative safe if you stay in the green AA bobble. (wouldn't be perfect) but will be something, while having some in reserve to protect the cv. But you need more fighters, bombers will be there too but for self defence just in case the rest of the team fails in that (that happens too)

And how it is? fun? to which operation would you compare to? Killer whale- in the offensive or defence of newport- in the defensive

So, a FNFL like mission for the dd's. Without a flag. Not playing for the objective but for the requirements, been there, done that. Not a nice place to be. Yesterday in trap map, bottom cap, I was there hugging the rocks while spamming HE on bbs, I was detected by some time now (a red dd that capped B) I was aware of that and had hydro on to warn me in advance, then I looked again to my left and backing off along side with me was that red dd, outside of smoke,in the clear just 6 kms away . WTF? What he's doing? well, after reading this thread, I understood. He probably aimed very careful to flood me, his torpedoes took a while to splash in the water. Bad or good player, in normal circumstances I would only have seen his torpedoes coming at me. Not a nice place to be. Good luck to all, I hope that you'll find what you are looking for.

Not duck pond, no, no, no. Mare nostrum, Our sea. You know, first and second Punic wars, Gallipoli, and II WW, one of the most disputed seas. But his ours, well... theirs. the pond it's the Atlantic ocean, not Our sea, well... I mean their sea

cruisers got hydro, just go hunt. Just be careful when you go after 2 dds at the same time. BB's, screw them, who cares? They are always at the map borders, anyway.

Not at all, the 1 to 4 moron went to the right flank, as the moron nº5, but something happen (they probably saw a sea monster) and they run away, the moron nº 5 stayed in position hopping that the others would came back but, no joy. All alone, the moron nº5 potato in a single torpedo drop and bombs (first cv strike), brawled a cruiser (sunk it) and manage to avoid a cross drop, than tried a flanking manoeuvre all alone against 3 bbs and eat some more bombs, (second cv strike). The end for the right flank. The left flank didn't hold on either, now without space in A, the 1 to 4 morons went to D, but without a foothold in either flanks they were crushed in a crossfire. we were roflstomped, like that. when I came back for more screenshots, the battle was already over. p.s.- Maybe it's a valid tactic but not this time.