Butterdoll

Came on, man That's just a flat lie. You are lying with all your teeth and you know it. Yeah, you could play well in all classes (I don't know, but I believe you) but surely you have a favourite one. Leave aside the mechanics crap. What kind of ship get's your blood pumping? Tell us the truth Pirate, Which one it's your Black Pearl?

Yes. heavy cruisers, but cl's you can't lump in Ca's. But that's easy. I've got 5 cruisers lines from t4 to t7 I've got 13 cl's and 5 CA's, 1 bb, the budyonni's big sister (Gneise) and some DD's T6, mostly Buddy. So, you forgot cls. I'm not part of your target demography. t

that Poll it's badly made, you forgot one class, my class. Light cruisers, AKA CL.

first of all and in my defence this is not to grab, after all, this is just co-op. the same 5 point captains with no skill allocated was going on my speed trails with my overgrowned 160.000 horse power t7 budyonni. cruiser style approach . (aggressive) See what I mean? It looks like a cl, it fights like a cruiser, it's a cruiser. Maybe in PVP that will chance, but for now... hummm, how close can I get to 40 knots?

You Know, Bismark Was my first goal when I started here and will be my first goal that I'll achieve. Bismark. I can hardly wait.

Just saying, be careful with what you wish. Perhaps, in that tight group, some of you may fall. and turn into potatoes just like Cinderella The problem it's WG didn't refined enough their recipe a sort of group it's nice, more flexible and forgiving, we all want to have a nice time here. But taking 3 hours to make 40 ribbons and win, that too lousy too. Perhaps instead skill of players or another thing, what about screen the players base by captain's skills of determined ship? Perhaps would be still somewhat forgiving and the best of both worlds? p.s.- Is in My wish list I'll take a look at Shiny Horse. The G-Wagon that scare the plebes and runs from the authorities at the same time.

Yesterday I strapped a 5 point captain with no points allocated in my brand new Gneisenau and went to Co-op, just to test the waters. I liked that ship, I finally liked a bb, full stock , i don't miss the fourth turret at all, very nice, it's a little rigid around the edges, that thing to start turning OMG but I hope that will chance and 32 knots top speed. Very Ferrari alike. Now, what surprising me the most ( and I apologize if I just discover the powder so pls don't steal my thunder). that ship it's basically a cruiser. turret transverse speed, very cruiser alike. Lightning fast torpedo reloads, faster than most cruisers (especially Budyonni) I torped those bots like I was a dd Very fast for a bb, nice, Cleveland it's only 0.5 knots faster. So it's a bitter sweet find, because Gneisenau it's a wolf in a sheep's skin, Gneisenau it's a CL dressed like a BB. I actually found a bigger and better Budyonni, a budyonni with heal and turtle neck armour. And that's wrong . they made a cruiser and gave it bb proprieties or they made a bb especially designed to steal shamelessly the role of the cruiser doing all that a cruiser does but better only with worst ROF. And I don't know what to think about that. I feel cheated by WG, right now. T7 cruisers are overall meh, i don't know yet if i will like gneise like i love budyonni . But what can i say or do? Gneisenau probably it's the best CL in T7. Gneisenau It's a CL that can truly brawl bbs, not rush them or tank against them to a certain degree (like budyonni e.g.) but truly brawl them toe to toe.

Heal, I didn't knew exactly how it works, only against fires ( I'm not used to that, usually for me hp gone never came back again) yeah, I have to recalibrate the brawling distance to that (10-12km), I usually do half of that, until now worked just fine against bots. (I just had a game where I was rushed by bots, doing just fine I could sunk the entire flank but I got torped and sunk by two of my own team, that's co-op for you) I'm testing my brand new Gneise. And yes, that's very difficult to assess, at least for me, what's the right moment to push. (ironically, happens the same to me as what usually happens when I'm in a cruiser, alone). When I was testing my Bayern in PVP I was in a flank and I made sure to the cruisers that I was there to tank for them and I wasn't the only bb there, well I end up alone brawling a Tirpitz point blank (what was fine because he couldn't use his torps and guns) with a Bayern supporting him, didn't went well for me. In all battles that I did in bbs, only once that happened ( a successful push) , I was deciding which way to go for when I saw one of the flanks in the imminence of falling, full speed ahead, I sunk a Tenryo I keep going forward blazing like crazy with four green cruisers in my tail, was a gg, epic, our base was under thread so I turned back, brawled a red bb with two cruisers supporting me and I had time to reset the cap before the game ended. I probably will have more questions but I will keep them until it's time. (the majority of the videos are older than the current MM). So, to recapitulate. When down tier. above 15 km move like a cruiser (angled, cover to cover, etc) below 15km (10k/12km) sting like a bb Give support to the bigger bbs (that will be difficult finding the right bb to follow), sink the cruisers, broadsides only if when brawling ( preferably with the right ship) . OK, let's see if I will get it right. Thank you very much for the tips

Ouch. those 25k-35k It's while brawling those ships even with the turtle back? With Bayern 15 km is almost full range so pretty sketchy, Bismark can have more range but probably 15km it's sketchy too. What about +- 10km?

Speaking of which. Yesterday I bought the Gneisenau, so I'm pretty close to my Goal, Bismark. But only yesterday I realized with the current MM i'll be not only go from t6 ( my usual realm) to t10 and in top of that down tiered . And I know t10 Ships like Yamato can reach deep into the citadels of many many ships ignoring the turtle back armour, including the one of my future old fat lady. Yes i'll go see the vids about it. But can you guys give any advice how to deal with ships like GF, Yamato, FG, or others that I don't know of?

I don't go as far. But they've got slow shell velocity, sluggish engine and kinda of slow, makes them kind of brggghhhhh Just in the other day I had a mission where I had to shoot down 10 planes. Did I choose Cleveland? Hell, no. the cv would want nothing to do with it. I took LaGal, an unsuspected ship to do that mission, I nailed it at the third attempted, second with a cv in a MM, 9 planes plus 11 planes. And done. If I understood you right, don't do that. If anything is rushing you in your smoke, shoot. Because if anyone is rushing you, they got the hydro on, your guns are the only hope you have to distract and manage to land some torps. I recommend HE, the explosions and smoke alone will take visibility from him if you stay quiet it's a matter of time until you get sunk. AP it's less because the only thing he have to do is angle and be prepared for it. (up against a smoked RNCL) rushing a Belfast it's harder than a Fiji but one way it's using or when the ship it's outnumbered, then you can go quiet if you are not his target and lightning him up at the right moment. Pensa? Rushing a Fiji? AhAHAHAHAHAH Let's not take Pensa. that's a rotting example. AHAHAHAHAHAH Perhaps against a fishing trolley in the fog or a row boat in a sunny day. I know that you are talking about mechanics but that discussion is only viable if it can take the "heat", Pensa can't, and it's guns are not optimize for that. they can't do the job right. One thing is rushing the other completely different is committing suicide.

Tanky, DD hunter, magical words I will check that out. Can we outfit Chappy with Hydro? (I'm only asking, because in that particular situation Hydro is more than radar)

Yes I know that, but the german line it's the most underdeveloped that I have, so my captains are very weak skill wise I've been playing without skill points allocated since the last free redistribution. So Operation it is, co-op not worth it. Initially I was only going after Bismark and that's it, then I changed my mind and decided to go for t10 german cruiser too. So BB it's only one. But lately I'm thinking what's the flavour of others bbs? Personally I don't mind the german guns, I like the style, brawling style. certainly are better than brawling with a IJN BB. I'm afraid of Colorado and others like it, slow with unreliable secondary's. Was what I eared from USBBs. Maybe Italian?

Moskva. I'm heading that way. I'm well aware of his squishiness, only certain parts are tough as nails and have a huge or poor concealment but other ship that it's like this, budyonni, with a poor base concealment but I took it down to 11.2km or 11.8 km, now I can get behind enemy lines, cap when necessary, etc if I'm no mistaken it's the second most stealth ship that I have in my port. I always said that Kuma was a love letter from WG to us, and still is, I search for a long time for another Kuma and found Budyonni. that it's something else, I have sunk Akazukis, Bensons, Kidds, N.Os, Pensas, Shchors, Bismarks, Nagatos, Yorchs, Hippers/Prinz, Budyonnis, Algeries, and some premiums ships too. It's unbelievable tanky if you angle and in certain ranges. Once I hold my ground against two bbs in a flank, the problem was a third ship, a Kirov that went for my flank. So As I said, for a long time I searched for another Kuma only to find it in a couple of another lines later and in a different nation. How it's Moskva? How low can you get the detection range? (CE plus premium camo) Can I expect other Budyonni?

plus 1 WG when doing a ship they don't do it the best it can be, if they did all ships would be OP and that would be fine and balanced. Just remember the Halloween operation, crazy OP ships with well defined roles supporting each other.

Same here, I'm finally grinding my Bayern now, I'm almost at gneise, my goal it's the legendary Big B, I don't dare to take it out on random I only play BB in scenarios and I struggle a lot specially on the killer wale, with a cruiser, any cruiser I can deal between 100k and 150k damage with that BB if I get 40k I'm very lucky, I'm always trailing the rest of the team that goes 10 knots faster than me in any given time and end up with the left overs. It's not so bad in Newport defence, there I can tank a little and do some damage but for that to happen I must ignore the dds and dodge every time. In raptor I manage to do equal damage that I would do in my cruisers, again, full speed and a shortcut (g5). And the guns 30 seconds to reload that crap? WTF? I often find myself wishing for 155 mm guns.

Because they are fast, multi purpose and they are an apex predator if only they were less bbs. forget the RNCL's, they are worst than crap. Go for the Budyonni, the best of all cruisers, best even than T7s for the moment and some T8s as is, DDs for breakfast, Cls for Lunch and if you play your cards right you can "eat" a bb or two in one battle, go for the Kuma and LaGal it's ok ( I like it more than Cleveland because don't have slower shell velocity, sluggish engine and slow speed ). But mainly Budyonni and you'll see why and find your answer. You can take almost everything down including BBs, you can play it at range or in close quarters, you can be very aggressive with it when no cv is n play. Go for Buddy plus premium camo. Just time your turns at the right moment. you don't need IFHE on buddy, go for DE only and you are ok to go. it's an OK or good fire starter.

forget the point 2. DFAA it's for TB only. If in a dd then you can focus your AA for DB, since TB are more or kind of hem for them. Either way, you said you were a dd player, so what you think it's more dangerous for a dd? Other thing, the learn to play or the git gud. That's good and all. But what about those situations when you faced or have to face your opposite?

ahahahahah you met the wrong lady No it's not. THE fat Lady is one and only one, Her name starts with a B and she's got a sister, she reigned over the Atlantic, stole the sleep of many man and I will finally meet her in the near future. The Valkyrie of the Valkyries will return

that I don't know. you shouldn't go up against a dd. But having been at the receiving end of that thing many times. I can tell you, this there's only other BB that I have more respect for when I'm up against. And it's not with the Cleveland.

Since I got Budyonni, Cleveland went kind of... hem. The only thing I know, T8 Cleveland will have one less turret to receive AA buff. Radar? Personally I hope not. I prefer Hydro, shorter range but one can defend and attack with it. Radar I think can't do that. I'm reading this topic with interest ( about old Cleveland). by the way, what was the shells speed on it? yeah, not the most comfortable ballistics, sucks. (I hope they change that) rail guns on cleve would be nice. And that ship needs more speed, 32 knots it's just too slow.

faster shells, more speed, and more responsive engine.

I don't know, but something tell me that we didn't eared the last of these gifts.

I like it, but on cruisers they seem like a truck horn. (give them a manly one). Didn't experience yet any abuse in the battles. I like the oh oh oh .

I don't have it, and never will. One "turd" is enough for me.