Butterdoll

came on, really? Of all things I could said, It was this one...but OK. first of all the T6 MM it's not that bad, in the other hand, T7 ships have worst ships but better MM, in the end I rather be in a T6 than in a T7. Cleveland VS The floating Turd (Pensa), Cleveland wins. LaGal (in my opinion, equal to Cleveland, I like it very much) VS Algerie, Algerie wins Myoko (would be a better ship if would not be for it's guns) I like furutaka more (don't like Aoba) Budyonni VS Shchors (fun guns, it's all that separate this ship from Pensa, and I like it just for it's guns) Budyonni wins by a mile. Budyonni it's the best ship I have, I love it to bits, the best ship up to T6 and better than all t7s I spoke of plus the german one. I can be against t8 ships and win. I have got a couple of akazukis, kids, Benson, N.O, Prinz Eugen, Hipper, Nagato, Bismarks, Pensa under Buddy's belt. So, yeah , T6 it's better than T7 ( that it's a desert) the only t7's saving grace until now it's Algerie and Gneise. Yes, Kuma, it's t4. My second best and favourite ship to now. And t4s don't get premium camo, and that's why I haven't bought one yet for the Puma. Well, at first I bought the premium camo for the concealment, trying to turn my Buddy, the best it can be. Economics was a after thought but then I realised the earnings. Then I bought De Grasse (a better LaGal) just to train captains and do operations, economics benefits could be grater than the one's of premium camos, just saying.

Remember me, Aotearas? Back then, you even advice me other game with more historical background.

And I add pure ignorance. Gaul was the most important province of Roman empire to the very end. France was the jump start for Europe as we know it. England was made by France Portugal and Spain was made by French etc, etc. I don't know which country are OP from, but most probably his currency was based on the French coin or adopt the French coin. In the war. well, take your pick. They had the best Heavy Calvary in Europe. They had for many periods the most powerful army... in the world. And had more victories than defeats.

Best bang for the buck? that's easy get Kuma with camo with premium consumables with 14 points captain get Budyonni with premium camo with premium consumables with 14 point captain get Gneisenau with premium camo with premium consumables with 14 points captain. And you are set to rock the world. So far it's all I can advice. with the first two you will eat premium ships raw with the second one you will eat alive ships a tier above with the third one, it's as good as a premium ship or the same.

I can answer that because I play for fun. Why I don't play co-op? because, first. there isn't enough bots to go around for the team.(co-op should be 7vs 12 or more) just like operation or better yet, just like Halloween. second, it's boring if you play co-op to grind things, the earnings are very small. I had to do 109 battles in co-op just to grind the engine and hull upgrade in gneise e.g. Second, I don't think the problem it's with the play for fun players, but with the players that take this game seriously. Because of mechanics, because of stats, because of repair cost and other crap like that? no, the real reason, is they are afraid But afraid from what? they only take advantage of something when they are sure that they will sink and not be sunk. If everyone do the same it's a camp fest. Then they are guys that commit suicide and the team it's down in 5 minutes. Either way it's not fun.

Why not? T6 it's an amazing tier, with better ships than t7 e.g. At the moment I've got one t6 premium camo, I didn't buy one for Kuma yet because there isn't any. I kinda understand you, I just bought a premium ship and will give me the exactly economics of my silver ship with premium camo.

that's not that difficult. 2 bbs at the map edges, 2 bbs behind islands. Remains one that is doing something. Atago? I don't care about your stats. but I went to see them. After 544 battles with your top ships (2 bbs and a dd) you have sunk 383 ships . After 544 battles My buddy alone sunk 342 ships. Running from cruisers? WTF? Man, something wrong with this picture. Maybe you are pushing to early and get focused by everyone? then you are restraining yourself and keep the distance where your ship it's not effective? I don't know. Prhaps you need to be more aggressive , closer to the action without going too far? Be prepared to let a target go and choose another more suitable? What about staying in the second line and step in only when things are even or about to get nasty and having always a way out? Since I started to have a exit strategy things got better for me.

yes, I can't do that. But you are circling slower, you have what, 14. something rudder speed? much better than original 20 seconds. But I can turn quicker (11 seconds) and dodging torps it's easier. I can also turn tighter than the other in a revolution. Well choices, we can't have the both. And less than 1 km is not ideal to dodge last ditch torps. But so far, I like that, it's almost cruiser territory. I want to comment this. I'm a cruiser main, and I know first hand how is dealing with these two (gneise, scharn). Yes, with this ship I'm more careful to commit than with any of my cls. For me the strength of these ships are dealing in close range with cruisers, other bbs don't have this ability per say not as much because the distance, the time you have. But both of them can bring the fight to the cruisers and deny to an certain extent the time they have to dodge, etc. So as a cruiser main, I simply follow my own directions, like if I was a cruiser where I Would want this bb? If I was a cruiser?..., etc, etc. But I'm not playing in a division with myself. My last battle in random, my flank was a Indy (floating turd) a Chinese Cl a Fuso and a Kongo. My first thought, crap. So I tried to push, to tank for them but no joy. Soon enough I was the only one in the cap pursuing a Aoba while engaging a Fuso and British BB to keep them at bay. Why not? The last time I saw the green Fuso and Green Kongo, they were behind me...were. No more. We were losing badly, the cyclone was coming and the Fuso and Kongo were sight seeing other map. I think the role of the Gneise it's support the cruisers and then push mid to late battle. Be decisive when things are even. Be aggressive. And my build it's not meant to live until the end of the game.

First of all, when you get the gneise fully upgraded play it like a cruiser. (it worked in co-op, it worked in operation and it's working in random so far) Personally I don't find anything wrong with the guns, they work just fine in the distance I usually am. (I had just now a random battle where I citadel a RNBB at 18 kms, so it's possible) the lead you give it's more or less the same you give when you are in LaGal or similar. Why not go for both? My planned build for gneise. IFA, AR, VIGILANCE, AFT, MFCSG, FP. Modules

he's saying that players with a massive amount of games in co-op play the same way in random. But you know what OP? Recently I've been playing some co-op games (been upgrading a new ship). They are right. I founded it strange at the beginning dd won't cap, let cruisers go ahead, etc. And that's way more fun than capping it's not co-op players that are wrong (they've got a lot wrong but not this one), I like it . Capping circles are a waste. Domination it's an abomination. And something to delay an engagement, a diversion to the really objective, sunk others to not be sunk But co-op have very little ships to go around (7 vs 12 bots or 7 vs14 bots would be nicer), very few rewards ( a good game it's 500). Co-op it's more selfish than randoms.

Same here but with a huge difference. I kind like Bayern, but it's too slow, with the uber cruiser (gneise) the things chanced a little. I didn't took it to random yet but I discovered another awesome ship. It shows potential to join the Puma and buddy (Kuma and buddyonni). Seven battles it's to few to you to have a feeling of something. You can't for now, but after the upgrades you can play it like a cruiser and be amazed with it's capabilities. where I'm at. 32 knots top speed. 11 secs. rudder speed 830 m turn radius (not that bad) turtle back armour. passive radar. 6km torpedoes. 6x1 380 mm guns and secondary's And even with a puny 7 points captain. It's like my Buddy went... taaa- ta- ra- ra- raaa.... hey, if you get the reach upgrade (you'll never need it) but can improve your dispersion. p.s.- Sacha Grey? Pffff, I don't even know who is she. You only have to be alarmed if you reach Bonnie Rotten levels of sucking

What? Now I'm confused. I never said Scharnhorst was a BB, I only said that gneise was a super cruiser, because it can do things where my cls struggles. Both of them are very similar, almost the only difference it's in the guns department. Less one turret than Bis and Tirpz one gun less per turret than Scharn. that I could put it more clearly

First of all I like flamu's videos. Nothing fancy like Jingles or Yuro (top notch) but they are informative and can be entertaining. I like also the personal flavour of each one of them (ichase, Notser, flamu, Yuro, Jingles, etc). So nothing against swearing, etc. Flambass I like less. A huge portion it's just crap. Or... I simply don't know what I'm getting from him, I nice video or just straight up crap. I'm well aware of all that, but the all bunch of them have anti meltdown tools in their reach, like editing e.g. When I see their videos I'm in a relax mode, I simply want to be amused, entertained, informed. Then things like these appears, and it's just there to waste my time. I watch also others channels on youtube and they have got a more professional posture in their approach to however. In these case (even in a stream) he could hold on to it, "repackage" and release it in a more Flamu's style. But no, All we get from him was directly from his [edited]through his mouth to our ears. So. Thank you very much Flamu, for your effort, you incompetent little crap. I'm not relax, I'm not amused, I'm not entertained, I'm not informed. You just made me waste my time. I came late from work I've got to wake up early for work and in top of that shits like this gem.

Forget that, the ROF and guns and quantity of guns alone can mess you up. (Belfast and Fiji). OP must be talking about Caledon or Danae. And with top notch concealment, what you want more OP? you already have smoke, hydro and radar, concealment, ROF, torpedoes.

Another good example of I was talking about. Shiny horse vs the uber cruiser(gneisenau). In real live they were sister ships, in the game the only difference they have it's the guns. One it's a cruiser killer but struggles with bbs, the other have minus one turret and less guns by turret but have a higher calibre and can do it all, may struggle also. If you are a fan, go ahead and have them both or just one of them, if not ... Personally I have the gneisenau and don't see the need of having the shiny horse for myself.

I don't know how bad you want these mission completed. (but I can relate to that feeling, FNFL flag, e.g.) For me was easy. When I saw the new campaigns with so many goodies I was happy but then I saw the requirements, Duke of York, ok, forget it. Today, 0 missions, 0 challenges, 0 events on the board. And I tell you one thing, I did exactly what nambr9 said. Just remember, we can't win it all.

Came on man, I don't understand you. I've been looking around your ships and you have some premium ships, and good premium ships. You got through the gauntlet of the awful British ships, and at this point forward it's all good ships, at least it's what they say. You have outstanding silver ships at your port, Kuma, you lack Budyonni thou (and believe when I say that's an outstanding ship straight better than some premium ships), you've got Algerie, Emile, etc. you can slap a premium camo and get premium consumables on a good ship, and you end up almost with a premium ship. I've done this with a ship of mine (minus the consumables) and I'm thinking to do the same with more ships. Yes, I finally very recently bought a premium ship, i was thinking of buying it for some time now, I didn't done a battle in it yet. (I'm to busy grinding captains). then you can put a good captain with a good ship plus the premium camo and you are there. Missouri? I was thinking about it, not because I liked it but because, I should but didn't buy the Kutuzov, but then again, what the hell a T6 guy would do in a T9 ship of a class that I don't like, in top of that ? Because it's a "money" printing machine? Pfff. Not good enough. Instead of a Missouri I will have a premium ship (for now) plus two or three silver ships with premium camo, so I will not losing much. You probably have the best t7 silver ship ( t7 it's a desert), I rather face them in my t6s than in my t7s. Belfast, yeah, you should but for some reason you didn't, what you can possibly do now? Move forward. the rest it's up to you

I feel you man, but you are wasting your words in here with this guy, it's like "giving pearls to pigs". (a grandmother and a uncle to Leukaemia)

Less, much less . Step down a lot. then breath and try to say want you want again.

There's something wrong when you find that pile of crap normal and acceptable. Civilized people don't grunt like a mindless caveman's pig.

Yes, this it's the point. Not about the game or the player itself. They undermine themselves, with this kind of shitty shows. Yes he doesn't like bb players, so do why. I'm not a broadcaster he is ( I'm old enough to be able to restrain myself from those kinds of abuse to others) they can't be a broadcaster and talk like a John Doe.

And flamu should turn off his mic while vomit his frustration to a hole. That's not proper behaviour for a broadcaster even an amateur one. Another [edited] in the tube. What a major irresponsible IDIOT with every single capital letters

yes you will turn pink. Khiren destroyed by Khiren. Just drop the cv crap, and stick to your guns. If You have nothing better to do. Don't do this either

It's more like that. In operation Narai, in the end it always go out, I never saw a goddam aftermath chart

Sometimes when I'm AFK, looking to the MM chart and seeing only the empty ball on my ship while the rest are already in battle for sometime. I've notice that when someone rams your ship hard or fire upon your ship, that very occasionally can be enough to make the AFK person jump to battle. Happen to me a couple of times. Once I even jumped into my furutaka while a red dd was having a field day with my ship. I only had time to put full speed ahead, put the fire out and aiming in that direction with whatever guns I had, got lucky and detonated the bastard. But by that time, half of my ship was gone. But most common is jumping into your sunken ship. TLDR- ram it hard or shoot a few rounds against a AFK player, because it may work.