CaptainKreutzer

tbh Anchorage looks like T8 London so bit intresting. But Munchen she looks very nice, M class light cruiser with modernized AA and etc. Now only 1 thing i really want to see as premium is: T10 Big gun GK, please like please every other line got their small/big gun premiums and there's even gun designs of 450 mm or 480 mm so that big gun GK can be either German Ohio or H-42 like BB so why not WG.

Well WG accidently teased or leaked second flag in Warhammer event post. So Alternative camo and second flag is coming but it's not fully confirmed. Maybe will come in 0.9.6 but 0.9.7 is possibility aswell to release along with Manfred von Richtofen. edit: Oh and plus there's two container is announced 1 looks similar to British Naval aviation collection, I guess 1 container is for collection other is for tokens.

Friendly reminder, Don't buy Odin, even for 3,500 doubloon, there's better and even more fun T5s or with bit more money even T6 ships, like Just don't because this ship is currently a terrible ship. Torpedo's are on the back similar to Kii thus they are hard to use. AA is worse then Bismarck. Secondaries might have great pen but their angle is way too bad. Guns now have 23 second and they are 305 mm guns so no overmatch to cruisers. HP pool of T5 battleship. Thus you can't use hydro to spot ships because if you are close to anything with torpedos you have 3 to 4 torpedo HP not counting HE spam and others. And you can't brawl like Tirpitz,Bismarck and Massachusetts because HP pool bing low as T5. Ship is slower then Bismarck but maybe better turning i didn't looked at that. I don't have anything to say to WG but don't buy this ship for competitive play because she's terrible in every way. Other ships you can get in game that's way better are, Tirpitz,Bismarck,Warspite,Texas,Lenin,Massachussets,NC,Alabama,Amagi,Vladivostok,Sinop,Atago,Prinz Eugen,Scharnhorst,Gneisenau,Nagato,Dunkerque,Lyon. I can list more... but let me end this here. Oh and WG nerfs reload and buffs extremely useless secondaries. Oh and AA thats still worse then Bismarck.

Tbh i don't like Odin after the nerfs, ship really is worthless and i have Scharnhorst anyway. But if i want a ship with same Hydro + Torpedo combo gimmick, i'll be looking forward for Ludendorff which will be coal freemium ship aand looks nice for her tier even tho she has poor firing angles and 32 second reload on main guns(but sigma is 1.8 just like old Alsace).

If you look closely they are not Fi 167 aircrafts that's stock on August. @Crysantos Btw why not saying what the planes are? I mean Tanatoy did it right after German CVs stats was revealed in devblog post. Oh btw i think she has Ju 87 Cs , I looked closely wing is very hard to see for most but one of them is not blocked by things around the deck. Then engine bay of the planes are very similar to Stuka's engine part. Then pilot cabin is long and streched to back and the tires again its hard to see but you can see its similar to Ju-87's tires.

Alsace and Ludendorff has 12 380 mm guns. so that's not a difference.

She has 1.8 sigma similar to GK and FDG.

Well Ludendorff is a ship that i didn't hope, I hoped to see T10 H42 or T9 Again but using 420s of FDG with Torpedo setup or something like that, it's just weird to see triple turret German Battleship. Well to stats it's terrible, Reload of 32 second, terrible gun angles similar to GK, AA that's worse then FDG, Rudder shift of 22 second( Instead of 17.5 of FDG), so right now Ludendorff looks like worse FDG to me. Löwenhardth looking very nice speedy CV with GZ secondaries and finally Stuka's i think if i saw correctly, Torpedo's are like downtiered GZ which is way better then main line Weser or August. DB has GZ's circle ellipse which is scaring me because you know GZ DB reticle is terrible and needs rework. I still didn't talk about AP rockets but i don't know much about them. Plus here: please change German CV line torpedos they might have heavy damage but they don't have that usability like GZ's torpedos or Löwenhardt's torpedos, with 25 knots and 738 meters arming distance at T10 is horrible.

I have a question- Is Petropavlovsk 0.9.6 release gonna change German CV early acces event time or is it gonna be like Kleber, gonna be released fully with German CV early access event?

I had to do this.

Well Early prototype GZ design is nice for T6. Biggest CV at T6, I hope she gets Stuka's as well. But T9 BB looks bad. Armor wise she's good and maybe turret angles maybe improved because of removal of hangar and Torpedos but she still looks like downgraded FDG. No AA, Worse reload, Smaller guns, Worse Rudder shift with 22 seconds(instead 17.5 seconds of FDG). I wish we got H42 rather then this imaginary BB again but let's not loose hope.

Well, Grind looks reasonable so yay something nice. But for whales that like to pay 35 k doubloon i have to say this don't! Odin is underpowered T8 BB with T5 health, mediocre secondary and main guns. So just grind it. 2 months grind time looks nice aswell i think. Rewards are still nice aswell and Parade camo looks awesome better than that PR camo for sure. Well i will try getting Odin (Because that camo looks so nice) since i have bunch of saved money for doubloons right now. But for real we need lot more camos like that Parade camo.

It's me again expressing my ideas once again this time Siegfried First Why Siegfried or O class cruiser designed? Design started in 1937, Intended to use as Commerce raider. Design was coming from Deutschland class cruiser principal, fight enemy cruisers and run away from battleships. Her design changed from P class cruisers and 3 ship ordered in 1939 but none started due to resource shortage. O class battlecruiser, Siegfried as we all know German T9 large/battlecruiser of German tech tree and WG has trouble on balancing her and here i am, I gonna start discussion to balance her, mostly because i am obsessed with Siegfried even though she's mediocre at best. I'll start with her problems down below. I never tested the ship so some stuff might be weird. Problems of Siegfried -1st problem her damage output is very low compared against other cruisers of her tier. 6 380 mm for cruiser maybe a large caliber but T8 to T10 ships can mediate the dmg quite easily. Those guns has 26 second reload which is same as JB and FDG. -Her bow and aft is big and unarmored which can be pen by any high tier BB. Her armor is very weird by that reason. -HE is very mediocre,normal for German ship but again with slow rate of fire decreasing her DMG. AP is awesome as German AP is very great but has normal AP pen angles. These are problems i can found right now I wanna compare her against other ship with similar task of her First ship i wanna compare her against is Republique,I know it is dumb to compare these two to each other but hear me out know. Siegfried fast battlecruiser with large gun caliber designed to destroy cruisers. Republique Fast battleship with 331 mm main artillery to pen 30 mm armor so she's one of the perfect cruiser killers. both is fast,both is well gunned,both has great Maneuverability(didn't played republique but she's fine in speed) so these 2 is awesome to compare agains even though one is cruiser other is T10 BB but both has similar task in my opinion , blowing cruisers but what's downside when we compare these two is- Siegfried has 26 second-Republique has 24 second which Siegfried has 23 second best, Republique has 20 second as best reload. I can only compare guns tho because of their task is similar and she's only large cruiser with 380 mm. Second Compare is Stalingrad, T10 Large cruiser I'm going to compare their armor especially mid and bow armor. Stalingrad has 50 mm ice break steel/armor and mid section. Siegfried has 90 mm armor and no bow armor only 27 mm. These two is heavily armored ship but Stalingrad Mediate most damage from bow due to that Ice breaker steel. But Siegfried can't do it although that 90 mm is very powerful against most AP and HE but bow is too big and unarmored it takes citadels very easily. I know i talked a lot- My idea of reworking her -Decrease Reload of main battery from 26 to 24. -Change mid armor from 90 to 50. -Increase 30 mm deck to 50 mm(not very important). -Add bow ice break steel of 40 mm to cover that giant but weak citadel. -Decrease range of main battery to 19.1 or 18.5 for balancing her tanking ability. Ending These might make her more balanced and will have clear counters like other large cruisers HE and some heavy cruiser HE. but will still have that Maneuver armor to bounce large BB guns and bow armor will not take much space on bow but will take atleast 1 meter high from water to pretend those citadels. This is my idea to rebalance her and i want to have her in game badly right now, I'm obsessed with this ship. Anyway give your idea to improve her performance. I'm out.

@CptBarney My idea was similar to Siegfried and Ägir. Beowulf gets original setup, 8 380 mm guns with very awesome accuracy , 4 triple 150 mm guns, 4 dual 128 mm secondaries and very great armor including icebreaker armor and working turtleback and large HP pool. But with bad secondary range. Thor in other hand gets her catapult deleted and her guns would be different, 4 Triple 305 mm guns with Puerto Rico accuracy, 4 triple 150 mm, 8 dual 128 mm secondaries with German BB secondary accuracy and long range same as GK, Armor is same as Beowulf. Thor will end up as Mini GK.

Beowulf for T10 Siegfried Thor for T10 Agir I was actually making for proposal about sisters but then i decided to not do it.

Project 24 first designed with 457 mm guns then Stalin didn't approved the design and it changed in both displacement and the guns.

Kremlin is project 24 battleship btw. anyway Fumtu is so right it's so pointless discussing with you.

Amagi class designed in the era where Battlecruisers was just faster battleships with lower armor thus they were for fighting against BBs and dodging their shells. Georgia or Iowa designed for chasing cruisers and going against Battleships. Alaska in other hand designed for killing cruisers. Siegfried or O class designed for killing cruisers and merchant ships. and stop comparing BBs to Cruisers for christ sake they are completely different classes.

Kron has innaccurate guns, and weird armor scheme. JB is Richy at T9 with better AA, MBRB,better accuracy. Siegfried armor is better then Kron just not the bow armor, 33.5 knots speed, 6 380 mm guns but it has cruiser accuracy not Kron's BB dispersion, plus Torpedos and German Hydro, secondaries still good and actually kinda better then Georgia by pen capacity but not by amount of secondaries. Siegfried has great things, has diffrences then other cruisers.

Z52 isn't a bad gunboat. Unless player playing her is complete potato. AP is very deadly and Hayate doesn't have a chance against Gun build Z52 because Hydro,smoke combo and AP that can deal 4k to 5k damage per salvo.

I say Pass, 2 million XP for mediocre ship is way too expensive but Collectors will still get her i think. Hayate is mediocre due to concealment and utility. 6.1 maximum concealment same as Z52. 100 meters lower then Harugumo and Daring is at 6 km as i know. It has 6.1 km concealment but unlike other similar ships with 6 km concealment Hayate doesn't have firepower or consumables. Well congrats for people that voted Free XP, I voted for coal.

History of creation Design A private line cruiser project was developed by Kriegsmarinewerft in June-September 1939. In 1939, 2 versions of this project were submitted to the Kriegsmarine ( German: Neubauausschuss ) shipbuilding commission : KW45 and KW50 . They slightly differed among themselves by displacement , reservation, as well as size. Armament and layout were identical. The project was reviewed, but was not approved. Design description Reservation Reservation was the main difference between the KW45 project and the KW50 : The main armor belt is 200 mm in the KW45 , against 300 mm in the KW50 ; Main armored deck - up to 115 mm for both projects; GK towers - 220 mm forehead, 180 mm side and stern, 50 mm roof. The ships were supposed to use Krupp armor . Power plant and driving performance There were 3 options for the layout of EU : Option A involved the installation of 4 diesel and 1 steam turbine ; Option B involved the installation of 3 diesel and 2 steam turbine; Option C involved the installation of 2 diesel and 3 steam turbine. The design maximum speed is 37 knots for the KW45 and 35 knots for the KW50 . Design capacity - 300,000 hp All options offered the installation of 3 steering feathers in jets for 5 stern propellers . Armament 380 mm SKC / 34 guns Main caliber The 4-gun towers housed 380-mm SKC / 34 guns , the same as those of battleships of the Bismarck type . Projectile typeWeight, kgLength cmWeight BB, kgMuzzle velocity, m / s Armor-piercing Pz.Spr.Gr. L / 4.4800167.218.8820 Half -armor-piercing Spr.Gr. L / 4,5 Bdz80017132.6820 High-explosive Spr.Gr. L / 4.6 Kz800174.864,2820 Auxiliary / anti-aircraft artillery It was planned to install quite powerful air defense on battle cruisers: 4x2 105-mm guns of universal caliber SKC / 33 ; 8x2 37 mm anti-aircraft guns SKC / 30 ; As PMK guns, the project envisaged the installation in 4 three-gun turrets of 150-mm SKC / 25 medium-caliber guns , the same as those of light cruisers of the Leipzig type . 150 mm SKC / 25 guns 105 mm SKC / 33 gun 37 mm SKC / 30 gun Landing Arado Ar 196 on the water Mine torpedo weapons It was planned to install 2x4 533-mm torpedo tubes on the ship . Ammunition - 24 torpedoes G7a . Aircraft weapons On the ship were supposed to be 3 seaplane Arado Ar 196 .

Yeah KW45 is highly possiple in 2 variant. Siegfried and Agir types. I'm just guessing but Original KW will be like original project but for second one WG might delete catapult for more AA and secondaries and give 12 305 mm guns and call it mini GK.

No T10, Siegfried has 62 k health and armor of O class is still allows full pen and overmatch through bow it will be end up as Odin of T10. Agir and Siegfried belongs to T9. In other hand there's plans of KW45-KW50 designs in WG RU Wiki which is way more fitting to T10 with more health, possibly more armor, more AA, more secondaries like way better upgrade over O class battlecruisers. https://wiki.wargaming.net/ru/Navy:Проект_линейного_крейсера_фирмы_Kriegsmarinewerft_1939_года